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Well I was just bored waiting on the season to get here and thinking about why we suck so bad and waht our problem has been all these years . And then it finally hit me. WE SUCK AT DRAFT TIME. We havent really mad a good pick since Dan Marino. Lets start with 2001

2001 #39 RB James Johnson
Heres who went after our pick
#30 Reggie Wayne
#31 Todd Heap
#32 Drew Brees
#36 Chad Ocho Cinco
#44 Kris Jenkins
#45 Fred Smoot
#46 Aaron Schobel
#74 Steve Smith
#201 TJ Houshmanzilla Championship
Wow did James Johnson ever even play a snap??

2002 #90 C Seth McKinney
Here the very next pick
#91 Brian Westbrook Yeah Brian Westbrook if we would have taken him then we wouldnt have taken Ronnie and could have took Braylon!!!

2003 #49 Eddie Moore
Here is tha list
#54 Anquan Boldin
#56 Osi Umenyora
#68 Lance Briggs
#69 Jason Witten
Our Pick
#78 Wade Smith
Who we could have taken
#82 Ricky Manning Jr
#97 Chris Simms
#111 Terrence McGee
#120 Asante Samuels
#160 David Deihl
#164 Dan Koppen
#198 Cato June

2004 #19 Vernon Carey Actually one decent pick in 4ever
Still yet at #24 Steven jackson is selected
We take #102 Will Poole
Every one else takes
#108 Jericho Cotchery
#110 nathan Vasher
#111 Will Allen
#126 Jared Allen

2005 #2 Ronnie Brown Maybe one of the worse picks in history and I know ill get crap for saying that but can the guy finish a complete season for once I mean cmon a #2 pick is supposed to help turn the franchis around now Ricky Williams is the starter over him

#3 Braylon Edwards Who we should have taken
#6 Pacman Jones
#11 Demarcus Ware
#12 Shawne Merriman

#46 Matt Roth wow this really is a shoddy draft for us
The rest of the pack
#48 Odell Thurman
#57 Justin Miller
#62 Bryant McFadden
#65 FRANK GORE we coulod have had Braylon and Gore BUT NO we suck
#66 OJ Otogwe

We take #104 Travis Daniels
The rest
#109 MARION BARBER III
#110 BRANDON JACOBS
#132 Chris Canty
#146 Trent Cole
#213 Derek Anderson

2006 #19 Jason Allen Who has been a major dissappointment and Ill think youll throw up a little in your mouth like I did when you see these picks after him
#19 ANTONIO CROMARTIE
#25 Santonio Holmes
#29 Nick Mangold
#30 JOSEPH ADDAI
#32 Kiwanuka
#33 Demeco Ryans
#50 Marcus McNeill
#52 Greg Jennings
#57 Devin Hester
#60 MAURICE JONES DREW

#82 Derek Hagan SIR DROPS ALOT
#91 Frostee Rucker
#99 Max Jean Giles

#114 Joe Toledo Did he ever even play a down for us
#115 Will Blackmon
#119 BRANDON MARSHALL
#126 Elvis Dumerville
#183 Johhny Jolly
#207 Antoine Bethea
#215 Cortland Finnegan
#252 MARQUES COLSTON 3 picks from MR Irrelevant

2007 # 9 Ted Ginn Jr While I like Ginn I think he was picked way too high considering when he came out he was really just a return man who ran terrible routes and whose hands were not that great Who know maybe hell develop into a Pro Bowl reciever
#11 Patrick Willis Def rather have him than Ginn
#12 Marshawn Lynch Rahter have him too
#14 Darelle Revis Shut down CB we need
#20 Aaron Ross
#22 Brady Quinn Verdict is still out on him
#25 Jon Beason
#26 Anthony Spencer

#40 JOHN BECK What a loser hes a total piece of trash
#42 Tony Ugoh
#46 Lamar Woodley
#47 David Harris 41 tackles his first 2 starts as a rookie

My point to this never ending story is that if we would have had a decent front office or a kinda smart coach who could draft then we would have always been contenders instead of complete bums. Maybe BP will draft right and turn us around. Im not sure though and really dissappointed with this years draft considering we really really needed a CB and WR and passed on many good ones . I guess well see. And dont bust my balls I was jsut bored and some people might want to know who we passed on for our guys. Who with the exception of a couple didnt ever play a down for us .
 
Your point is that if we had a time machine and could travel to the future, we would be super bowl champions.

Half the guys you mention are 'names', but have done diddly squat in the NFL. Gean Gilles, Chris Simms, Johnny Jolly, Will Blackmon, Frostee Rucker, McFadden, Miller, Thurman (out of the league) ... I could go on.
 
Wow you cry about Ronnie Browns injuries and we should have had Frank Gores injury problems???????
Every team even the super bowl champs have had bad drafts and coulda/woulda/shouldas. Look at NE's last couple of drafts (which are lousey) and their suppose to be brilliant at it.
 
2002 #90 C Seth McKinney
#91 Brian Westbrook - You cannot draft a running back when you have the rushing championship. THIS THREAD FAILS, but for fun lets continue.

2004 #19 Vernon Carey.
#24 Steven jackson - Remember this is before Ricky retired. Lets spend a 1st on a RB when we have the leading rusher of 2002.

2005 #2 Ronnie Brown - Best pick of the draft Sorry you fail.

#3 Braylon Edwards - Guess what for a #3 pick he hasn't had that much of an impact as Brown. And guess what he has had injury issues too.
#6 Pacman Jones - The guy so good his team cut him and Jerry Jones had to Beg Goodel to reinstate. Yeah with all the issues we had with Ricky lets get Jones. YOU SIR FAIL!!!!!
#11 Demarcus Ware - Brown is better and is at a more important position.
#12 Shawne Merriman - Good player but has injury and has already been suspended for drug tests. Guess what he is so good his own team wont resign him when his contract is up.

#46 Matt Roth
#48 Odell Thurman - Agreed.
#57 Justin Miller - Disagree.
#62 Bryant McFadden - Disagree.
#65 FRANK GORE - Disagree.
#66 OJ Otogwe - Disagree.

We take #104 Travis Daniels
The rest
#109 MARION BARBER III - Yeah cause we just drafted a RB lets draft another in the same round.
#110 BRANDON JACOBS - Running back after getting one at #2. BAD IDEA.
#132 Chris Canty - Who???
#146 Trent Cole - Who???
#213 Derek Anderson - Yeah if he was that good Cleveland would have drafted Quinn. He was a holdout away from obcurity.

2006 #19 Jason Allen - Was not the greatest pick but was hurt alot by Saban shifting him alot. Could have been 1st round talent if brought into NFL better.
#19 ANTONIO CROMARTIE - Agreed.
#25 Santonio Holmes - Agreed
#29 Nick Mangold - Agreed.
#30 JOSEPH ADDAI - With Brown and Ricky you cannot take a 1st round running back.
#32 Kiwanuka - Agreed
#33 Demeco Ryans - Agreed
#50 Marcus McNeill - Agreed
#52 Greg Jennings - Agreed
#57 Devin Hester - This was a reach and gamble for a return man. At least Ginn can play WR.
#60 MAURICE JONES DREW - See Addai

#82 Derek Hagan
#91 Frostee Rucker - Hagan is better.
#99 Max Jean Giles - Hagan is better.

#252 MARQUES COLSTON - 31 other teams also failed including saints, cause if anyone saw his breakout he wouldnot have been 252.

2007 # 9 Ted Ginn Jr
#11 Patrick Willis Def rather have him than Ginn
#12 Marshawn Lynch - Ricky and Ronnie and you want a RB. WTH!!!
#14 Darelle Revis - We will see how Ginn is so far Ginn is the better upside of the two.
#20 Aaron Ross - Aaron who?
#22 Brady Quinn - The QB that can't beat out Derek Anderson in two years.
#25 Jon Beason - Who?
#26 Anthony Spencer - If we took him instead of Ginn or Quinn FO should have been crucified even more so.
 
Everybody has bad drafts...maybe not as many as the past 10 for us, but they do...look at the Pats in 07, they have 1 pick left on their roster, Merryweather, the rest are out! My advice? Enjoy what we have, throw that feeling down the toilet, and you will sleep better, sombody capable is drafting for us today.
 
3rdandinches said:
Wow you cry about Ronnie Browns injuries and we should have had Frank Gores injury problems???????
Every team even the super bowl champs have had bad drafts and coulda/woulda/shouldas. Look at NE's last couple of drafts (which are lousey) and their suppose to be brilliant at it.
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Think hes saying, that for a #2 overall pick, you want a guy that changes the franchise, and stays on the field. He had Braylon Edwards as the pick they should of made, you can't argue that Edwards was a great player in college and is proving to be a top WR in the NFL. Could of had Gore 2nd or 3rd round, and would of been better off, but you know you can't nitpick, its easy to look back and say we should of made this or that pick.
 
I would argue that many things have fallen into place OTHER than Braylon Edwards that have helped turned around the Browns. Derek Anderson falling into their laps is probably the biggest. And moreover, while both Braylon and Ronnie were the first steps in the rebuilding process for their respective teams, ours was derailed when Saban departed and Cam came in with the goal of keeping an aging defense intact while trying to focus on just one side of the ball. During these two seasons, the Browns add Joe Thomas and Steinbach to solidify their offensive line, sign a rejuvenated Jamal Lewis (another stroke of good luck, IMO), draft an edge rusher in Kamerion Wimbley etc. Basically, my point is that until last year, Braylon's team was still losing. Its been a process, and they have slowly built it into what it is today. Similarly, in two years or so, we'll be winning consistently, and many will point to Jake Long as having turned it around, when in reality, it will be a process spanning several seasons and several free agency periods, drafts and months of practice and development.
 
ssnjamerson said:
Well I was just bored waiting on the season to get here and thinking about why we suck so bad and waht our problem has been all these years . And then it finally hit me. WE SUCK AT DRAFT TIME. We havent really mad a good pick since Dan Marino. Lets start with 2001

2001 #39 RB James Johnson
Heres who went after our pick
#30 Reggie Wayne
#31 Todd Heap
#32 Drew Brees
#36 Chad Ocho Cinco
#44 Kris Jenkins
#45 Fred Smoot
#46 Aaron Schobel
#74 Steve Smith
#201 TJ Houshmanzilla Championship
Wow did James Johnson ever even play a snap??

2002 #90 C Seth McKinney
Here the very next pick
#91 Brian Westbrook Yeah Brian Westbrook if we would have taken him then we wouldnt have taken Ronnie and could have took Braylon!!!

2003 #49 Eddie Moore
Here is tha list
#54 Anquan Boldin
#56 Osi Umenyora
#68 Lance Briggs
#69 Jason Witten
Our Pick
#78 Wade Smith
Who we could have taken
#82 Ricky Manning Jr
#97 Chris Simms
#111 Terrence McGee
#120 Asante Samuels
#160 David Deihl
#164 Dan Koppen
#198 Cato June

2004 #19 Vernon Carey Actually one decent pick in 4ever
Still yet at #24 Steven jackson is selected
We take #102 Will Poole
Every one else takes
#108 Jericho Cotchery
#110 nathan Vasher
#111 Will Allen
#126 Jared Allen

2005 #2 Ronnie Brown Maybe one of the worse picks in history and I know ill get crap for saying that but can the guy finish a complete season for once I mean cmon a #2 pick is supposed to help turn the franchis around now Ricky Williams is the starter over him

#3 Braylon Edwards Who we should have taken
#6 Pacman Jones
#11 Demarcus Ware
#12 Shawne Merriman

#46 Matt Roth wow this really is a shoddy draft for us
The rest of the pack
#48 Odell Thurman
#57 Justin Miller
#62 Bryant McFadden
#65 FRANK GORE we coulod have had Braylon and Gore BUT NO we suck
#66 OJ Otogwe

We take #104 Travis Daniels
The rest
#109 MARION BARBER III
#110 BRANDON JACOBS
#132 Chris Canty
#146 Trent Cole
#213 Derek Anderson

2006 #19 Jason Allen Who has been a major dissappointment and Ill think youll throw up a little in your mouth like I did when you see these picks after him
#19 ANTONIO CROMARTIE
#25 Santonio Holmes
#29 Nick Mangold
#30 JOSEPH ADDAI
#32 Kiwanuka
#33 Demeco Ryans
#50 Marcus McNeill
#52 Greg Jennings
#57 Devin Hester
#60 MAURICE JONES DREW

#82 Derek Hagan SIR DROPS ALOT
#91 Frostee Rucker
#99 Max Jean Giles

#114 Joe Toledo Did he ever even play a down for us
#115 Will Blackmon
#119 BRANDON MARSHALL
#126 Elvis Dumerville
#183 Johhny Jolly
#207 Antoine Bethea
#215 Cortland Finnegan
#252 MARQUES COLSTON 3 picks from MR Irrelevant

2007 # 9 Ted Ginn Jr While I like Ginn I think he was picked way too high considering when he came out he was really just a return man who ran terrible routes and whose hands were not that great Who know maybe hell develop into a Pro Bowl reciever
#11 Patrick Willis Def rather have him than Ginn
#12 Marshawn Lynch Rahter have him too
#14 Darelle Revis Shut down CB we need
#20 Aaron Ross
#22 Brady Quinn Verdict is still out on him
#25 Jon Beason
#26 Anthony Spencer

#40 JOHN BECK What a loser hes a total piece of trash
#42 Tony Ugoh
#46 Lamar Woodley
#47 David Harris 41 tackles his first 2 starts as a rookie

My point to this never ending story is that if we would have had a decent front office or a kinda smart coach who could draft then we would have always been contenders instead of complete bums. Maybe BP will draft right and turn us around. Im not sure though and really dissappointed with this years draft considering we really really needed a CB and WR and passed on many good ones . I guess well see. And dont bust my balls I was jsut bored and some people might want to know who we passed on for our guys. Who with the exception of a couple didnt ever play a down for us .
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Wow, this whiny thread was spawned out of boredom??? Good lord, let's all pitch in and buy this kid a video game or something so we won't have to endure anymore of this garbage!!!
 
Thew worst pick was Jason Allen, there were so many other playes that that have turned out be very good players. It looks like Allen will be a decent player at best.
 
ssnjamerson said:
Well I was just bored waiting on the season to get here and thinking about why we suck so bad and waht our problem has been all these years . And then it finally hit me. WE SUCK AT DRAFT TIME. We havent really mad a good pick since Dan Marino. Lets start with 2001

2001 #39 RB James Johnson
Heres who went after our pick
#30 Reggie Wayne
#31 Todd Heap
#32 Drew Brees
#36 Chad Ocho Cinco
#44 Kris Jenkins
#45 Fred Smoot
#46 Aaron Schobel
#74 Steve Smith
#201 TJ Houshmanzilla Championship
Wow did James Johnson ever even play a snap??

2002 #90 C Seth McKinney
Here the very next pick
#91 Brian Westbrook Yeah Brian Westbrook if we would have taken him then we wouldnt have taken Ronnie and could have took Braylon!!!

2003 #49 Eddie Moore
Here is tha list
#54 Anquan Boldin
#56 Osi Umenyora
#68 Lance Briggs
#69 Jason Witten
Our Pick
#78 Wade Smith
Who we could have taken
#82 Ricky Manning Jr
#97 Chris Simms
#111 Terrence McGee
#120 Asante Samuels
#160 David Deihl
#164 Dan Koppen
#198 Cato June

2004 #19 Vernon Carey Actually one decent pick in 4ever
Still yet at #24 Steven jackson is selected
We take #102 Will Poole
Every one else takes
#108 Jericho Cotchery
#110 nathan Vasher
#111 Will Allen
#126 Jared Allen

2005 #2 Ronnie Brown Maybe one of the worse picks in history and I know ill get crap for saying that but can the guy finish a complete season for once I mean cmon a #2 pick is supposed to help turn the franchis around now Ricky Williams is the starter over him

#3 Braylon Edwards Who we should have taken
#6 Pacman Jones
#11 Demarcus Ware
#12 Shawne Merriman

#46 Matt Roth wow this really is a shoddy draft for us
The rest of the pack
#48 Odell Thurman
#57 Justin Miller
#62 Bryant McFadden
#65 FRANK GORE we coulod have had Braylon and Gore BUT NO we suck
#66 OJ Otogwe

We take #104 Travis Daniels
The rest
#109 MARION BARBER III
#110 BRANDON JACOBS
#132 Chris Canty
#146 Trent Cole
#213 Derek Anderson

2006 #19 Jason Allen Who has been a major dissappointment and Ill think youll throw up a little in your mouth like I did when you see these picks after him
#19 ANTONIO CROMARTIE
#25 Santonio Holmes
#29 Nick Mangold
#30 JOSEPH ADDAI
#32 Kiwanuka
#33 Demeco Ryans
#50 Marcus McNeill
#52 Greg Jennings
#57 Devin Hester
#60 MAURICE JONES DREW

#82 Derek Hagan SIR DROPS ALOT
#91 Frostee Rucker
#99 Max Jean Giles

#114 Joe Toledo Did he ever even play a down for us
#115 Will Blackmon
#119 BRANDON MARSHALL
#126 Elvis Dumerville
#183 Johhny Jolly
#207 Antoine Bethea
#215 Cortland Finnegan
#252 MARQUES COLSTON 3 picks from MR Irrelevant

2007 # 9 Ted Ginn Jr While I like Ginn I think he was picked way too high considering when he came out he was really just a return man who ran terrible routes and whose hands were not that great Who know maybe hell develop into a Pro Bowl reciever
#11 Patrick Willis Def rather have him than Ginn
#12 Marshawn Lynch Rahter have him too
#14 Darelle Revis Shut down CB we need
#20 Aaron Ross
#22 Brady Quinn Verdict is still out on him
#25 Jon Beason
#26 Anthony Spencer

#40 JOHN BECK What a loser hes a total piece of trash
#42 Tony Ugoh
#46 Lamar Woodley
#47 David Harris 41 tackles his first 2 starts as a rookie

My point to this never ending story is that if we would have had a decent front office or a kinda smart coach who could draft then we would have always been contenders instead of complete bums. Maybe BP will draft right and turn us around. Im not sure though and really dissappointed with this years draft considering we really really needed a CB and WR and passed on many good ones . I guess well see. And dont bust my balls I was jsut bored and some people might want to know who we passed on for our guys. Who with the exception of a couple didnt ever play a down for us .
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Ok. Change teams then. See ya
 
It's over, done with, this is a new era, who cares about what others have done in the past . . . its about what the Trifecta is doing NOW.

Us being 1-15 last year pretty much explained what you are trying to accomplish in this thread. And we aren't the only DUMB teams, because 30 others passed on the players you typed . . . its easy to look after the fact, but the draft is a crap shoot . . . any many players that succeeded with one team, may not have on another . . . who knows . . . you need alot of luck to be blessed in the right situation to succeed.

I don't think Drew Brees is as successful if he would have came here, he is just an example. Would Boldin have someone to throw him the ball? Edwards? I mean come on.
 
Jetsfan0099 said:
Think hes saying, that for a #2 overall pick, you want a guy that changes the franchise, and stays on the field. He had Braylon Edwards as the pick they should of made, you can't argue that Edwards was a great player in college and is proving to be a top WR in the NFL. Could of had Gore 2nd or 3rd round, and would of been better off, but you know you can't nitpick, its easy to look back and say we should of made this or that pick.
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Edwards has done nothing until last season to warrent the 3rd pick n the draft. Ronnie has been excellent for us, but has had injuries to slow him down. Can anyone see the future to avoid drafting a player that has gotten injured a few times,no but atleast of the 3 RB's thought to go in any order we got by far the best one. I agree looking back and nitpicking is useless, but you can't give useless reasons to justify why our picks are bad when they can apply to most teams and other players he wanted or thought as better picks.
 
Yes, hindsight is 20/20. If you could go back and relive your life, you'd never make a mistake and you'd be the president and the richest man in the world at the age of 12.

But guess what, all you can go off in your real life is what you know at the time, thus the draft turns out the way that it does. It is a guessing game.
 
AZStryker said:
Wow, this whiny thread was spawned out of boredom??? Good lord, let's all pitch in and buy this kid a video game or something so we won't have to endure anymore of this garbage!!!
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