Both Waddle And Chase were the wrong pick for their respective teams.

[ChitownPhins28]

This is 100% 'monday morning QB' hindsight, just so we're clear. I loved the Waddle pick, at the time, too...But

Im not in that building in on the meetings and fully briefed on our team's self-scouting.
Meaning, The Dolphins Should've Known Better than their fans on what this team really needed.
Theyve been just 'dead wrong' on which position group needed the help more.
Now, I'll say it's possible that since the draft, the WR group has proven better than expected, or, less of a weakness than what they felt. Waddle may eventually bloom into Such an alpha dog that cant be covered by any one guy ever and opens up other guys so much that it leads to being able to get the ball out quicker. However, Im not sure he's that bright or that polished of a WR to be in the right place or the right time; stuff like knowing how to come back to towards the QB when he's avoiding pressure.

On a different note: I feel the Bengals couldve improved more as a team if they had gone O-line instead of Chase. With Boyd and Higgins already in place, they could've easily got their #3 option in a later round, too.

Enough about Cincy...

It just seems Dolphins were delusional about the abilities and skills of their own players. Unless Austin Jackson showed up to OTAs absolutely Crushing It, Sewell was the no-brainer pick.
I think we the fans, many of us, felt the young guys would just be substantially better from day 1 of 2021 season just from the experience of '20 and OTAs and camp, etc. We were very wrong but, nobody is paying us to know better and be right. Dolphins FO and scouts Are being paid and 'WTF were they looking at?!?'.

 

[miamiron]

Chase is on pace for over 1000 yards receiving and 20 tds I think they made a great pick. 3 games in and he's scored a td in every game.I'd love to have him here.

 

[ChitownPhins28]

But if Cincy could run the ball better and protect the pocket better, then the WR they got in the later round is prolly getting open a lot, too.
However, the throttling Cincy gave Pittsburgh rebukes my point. Bengals O-line Sucked vs the Bears.
If Cincy can block people, then Im very wrong on my Chase thought. I just didnt think they could block. I thought it was a weak position group for them.

 

[SF Dolphin Fan]

It's a fair argument, but again we are three games into the season.

I preferred Waddle over Sewell, but wouldn't have been disappointed with either. I do think Waddle has super star potential.

I also think Flores and Grier expected the offensive line to take a step forward and felt a game changer at wide receiver was the biggest need. I think the fan base, for the most part, agreed with that.

Pre-draft, most of the talk was about adding a dynamic receiver.

 

[dadecounty]

i don’t think you can look at last years draft. The previous draft was the most important.

 

[FanEnSpain]

Folks, we drafted a slot receiver with our 1st pick.

The year before we drafted a raw LT, and a very raw CB with our 1st pick.

We suck at drafting.

 

[Danny]

Folks, we drafted a slot receiver with our 1st pick.

The year before we drafted a raw LT, and a very raw CB with our 1st pick.

We suck at drafting.

the bad drafting has been going on for decades all the way back to shula tbh. He had some horrible drafts in the 80's and into the 90's. the last time we had some very good drafts was when JJ was the HC....he built a very good defense but still didn't hit on offense at all. Wanny was horrible and so has been everybody after him.

 

[ChitownPhins28]

It's a fair argument, but again we are three games into the season.

I preferred Waddle over Sewell, but wouldn't have been disappointed with either. I do think Waddle has super star potential.

I also think Flores and Grier expected the offensive line to take a step forward and felt a game changer at wide receiver was the biggest need. I think the fan base, for the most part, agreed with that.

Pre-draft, most of the talk was about adding a dynamic receiver.

My point is that the Dolphins FO should've had the 'insider data' to know the truth better than their fanbase. They Hugely overestimated the capabilities of their Olinemen And the importance of Oline play to the whole endeavor.
Plus, how do they cut a Olinemen this year who then starts for a 3-0 team and plays well?!?

 

[ChitownPhins28]

the bad drafting has been going on for decades all the way back to shula tbh. He had some horrible drafts in the 80's and into the 90's. the last time we had some very good drafts was when JJ was the HC....he built a very good defense but still didn't hit on offense at all. Wanny was horrible and so has been everybody after him.

Shula's luck was also Awful when it comes to 1st round guys getting injured.
If knee surgery technology in the 80s was what it became recently he wouldve gotten many great players from those drafts, IMO.
Bosa, Yatil Green, Troy Vincent FA Hugh Green and some others.
Jimmy Johnson drafted Horribly in the early rounds for the Dolphins. Got some studs later in drafts, like Grier seems to do.

 

[SF Dolphin Fan]

My point is that the Dolphins FO should've had the 'insider data' to know the truth better than their fanbase. They Hugely overestimated the capabilities of their Olinemen And the importance of Oline play to the whole endeavor.
Plus, how do they cut a Olinemen this year who then starts for a 3-0 team and plays well?!?

Well, it fits if the problem is the offensive line coach. Not saying it is. I don't know enough about it to make that determination, but the offensive linemen look confused much of the time.

I guess a positive is that the line played pretty well late in the game against the Raiders.

 

[Ryan1973]

Folks, we drafted a slot receiver with our 1st pick.

The year before we drafted a raw LT, and a very raw CB with our 1st pick.

We suck at drafting.

We have sucked at drafting for years because of bad GM's and scouts. When is the last time the Dolphins had a good GM? It's been a long time!

 

[Danny]

Shula's luck was also Awful when it comes to 1st round guys getting injured.
If knee surgery technology in the 80s was what it became recently he wouldve gotten many great players from those drafts, IMO.
Bosa, Yatil Green, Troy Vincent FA Hugh Green and some others.
Jimmy Johnson drafted Horribly in the early rounds for the Dolphins. Got some studs later in drafts, like Grier seems to do.

Green was JJ.....trading two first round picks for hugh Green was a mistake
as far as JJ drafting bad in the early rounds
his one good pick in round one was Gardener but more than made up for it with JT,Zach,Surtain and Madison

 

[Tupac Shakur]

the 2020 mistake wasn't really drafting tua or even jackson. yes we should have moved heaven and earth to get wirfs but it didn't happen. ok so take jackson. i said then i wanted jefferson but i could live with jackson, taking a chance on a tackle. major need obviously. next we needed a rb and could have had swift or taylor. noah was a stupid pick and everyone knew it then, much less now.

the 2021 mistake was the most egregious. should have taken a qb at 3 to compete with tua. you don't get those types of swings too often.

with that said, trading down from 3 to 12 was ok based on the haul. but the trade back up to 6 for a glorified jakeem grant was horrific in every sense. just an all around **** job.

 

[royalshank]

Shula's luck was also Awful when it comes to 1st round guys getting injured.
If knee surgery technology in the 80s was what it became recently he wouldve gotten many great players from those drafts, IMO.
Bosa, Yatil Green, Troy Vincent FA Hugh Green and some others.
Jimmy Johnson drafted Horribly in the early rounds for the Dolphins. Got some studs later in drafts, like Grier seems to do.

Good point about the guys w the knee injuries

 

[royalshank]

Green was JJ.....trading two first round picks for hugh Green was a mistake
as far as JJ drafting bad in the early rounds
his one good pick in round one was Gardener but more than made up for it with JT,Zach,Surtain and Madison

I loved the Hugh Green trade when we made it. 1985. We traded the a first-round pick and a 2nd round draft pick in 1986. At the time, Green was the best LB in football after Lawrence Taylor. He came in ‘85 at the trade deadline and had 5 sacks, a pick and a FR in 11 games. In ‘86 he began the season a terror w 4 sacks in 3 games. Then the knee…. Was never the same player after that. Pre knee injury he was a big play LB who got sacks, picks, TDs you name it.