Brown's Holdout and the Fans

[kizzaboo]

I think that everyone is overreacting just a tad on Brown's holdout. RB has the easiest transition to the NFL... Brown is not going to just flop over on the field, he is going to be just fine dispite missed practices. Also he will more than likely split carries with Gordon for the first 4 games. Another point I would like to touch on is his contract demands. $22 million is reasonable considering the money that Smith got. So Fin fans, settle down this isn't nearly as big of a deal as what you make it out to be.

Go Dolphins

 

[FinSinceBirth]

I think that everyone is overreacting just a tad on Brown's holdout. RB has the easiest transition to the NFL... Brown is not going to just flop over on the field, he is going to be just fine dispite missed practices. Also he will more than likely split carries with Gordon for the first 4 games. Another point I would like to touch on is his contract demands. $22 million is reasonable considering the money that Smith got. So Fin fans, settle down this isn't nearly as big of a deal as what you make it out to be.

Go Dolphins

:yes:

 

[Alien]

brown should be in camp as soon as possible because ricky might be stealing his job from under his nose with solid play in training camp, along with gordon looking alright. he is losing out on playing time and when he comes into camp he will have to start at the bottom of the depth chart just like everyone else...

 

[FinSinceBirth]

brown should be in camp as soon as possible because ricky might be stealing his job from under his nose with solid play in training camp, along with gordon looking alright. he is losing out on playing time and when he comes into camp he will have to start at the bottom of the depth chart just like everyone else...

Get real. Your number two draft pick does not start at the bottom of the depth chart. When you draft a player that high you draft them to be an immediate impact player not start at the bottom. As unfair as it may be to other players, the number two pick is not working his way up like the rest. Alex Smith won't be at the bottom, Braylon Edwards won't be at the bottom, I'm pretty sure Carnel won't be at the bottom. When Ronnie Shows up, he's going first team I guarantee it

 

[zephon]

I don't really look at it as a holdout. I honestly think the team and brown's agent are going over the Smith contract with a fine tooth comb. I'm hoping that the reported 24 mill guarantee is just agent talk for making the contract sound good. I don't want to have to guarantee more than 20 mill to a non QB and I don't think the team wants to either.

If he's not signed by next friday...then I'll start commenting and complaining. Besides, he's a RB who has the playbook already. RBs typically take the least amount of time to get acclimated. Ronnie's most important thing is making sure he understands the protection schemes. If\When he's got those down, it's no big thing. We already know he can run and catch.

 

[steveincolorado]

Get real. Your number two draft pick does not start at the bottom of the depth chart. When you draft a player that high you draft them to be an immediate impact player not start at the bottom. As unfair as it may be to other players, the number two pick is not working his way up like the rest. Alex Smith won't be at the bottom, Braylon Edwards won't be at the bottom, I'm pretty sure Carnel won't be at the bottom. When Ronnie Shows up, he's going first team I guarantee it

Go tell that to Carson Palmer....lol

 

[Agent51]

Get real. Your number two draft pick does not start at the bottom of the depth chart. When you draft a player that high you draft them to be an immediate impact player not start at the bottom. As unfair as it may be to other players, the number two pick is not working his way up like the rest. Alex Smith won't be at the bottom, Braylon Edwards won't be at the bottom, I'm pretty sure Carnel won't be at the bottom. When Ronnie Shows up, he's going first team I guarantee it

I semi-agree with you. You DON'T draft a guy that high to start at the bottom, you always expect a guy drafted that high to make an immediate impact (aside from QBs maybe). However, if he isn't performing as well as others then he'll be on the bench no matter if he is #1 overall or "mr. irrelevant". Nobody gets the job JUST because of where they were drafted. If ricky and lamar perform better in camp and preseason then we'd better believe (and hope) that hey are starting over brown. Not saying I don't think Brown will be good or I don't want him to start, I'm just saying that the best guy is going to start, regaurdless of their hype or draft position or whatever. I wouldn't want Brown starting if Ricky and/or Lamar are outperfoming him in camps and preseason, and the same applies for any postion on our team, I want whomever is perfoming the best at their respective positions to be starting, I don't want anyone starting just cuz of who they are etc etc.

 

[FinSinceBirth]

I semi-agree with you. You DON'T draft a guy that high to start at the bottom, you always expect a guy drafted that high to make an immediate impact (aside from QBs maybe). However, if he isn't performing as well as others then he'll be on the bench no matter if he is #1 overall or "mr. irrelevant". Nobody gets the job JUST because of where they were drafted. If ricky and lamar perform better in camp and preseason then we'd better believe (and hope) that hey are starting over brown. Not saying I don't think Brown will be good or I don't want him to start, I'm just saying that the best guy is going to start, regaurdless of their hype or draft position or whatever. I wouldn't want Brown starting if Ricky and/or Lamar are outperfoming him in camps and preseason, and the same applies for any postion on our team, I want whomever is perfoming the best at their respective positions to be starting, I don't want anyone starting just cuz of who they are etc etc.

That's true, If the player can't perfrom there is no reason for him to start, And I only said that Ronnie Brown will be at the top when he comes in to camp, I never said he be starting game 1. However I don't expect Ronnie to fail either. You and I believe the same thing, I guess I just didn't clarify myself well enough in my original post.

As for the guy who mentioned Carson Palmer, Carson was drafted to be the number one but however he didn't perform well enough to stay number 1 and it didn't help that Kitna had a comeback yea. Again, I perfectly agree that a player shouldn't play because of his draft status IF he can't cut it. I just said that he would come in at 1 and not start at the very bottom.

And As I said about Williams, I just read in the paper that the bucs new depth chart has him at number 1. See what I mean?

 

[Penthos]

I think that everyone is overreacting just a tad on Brown's holdout. RB has the easiest transition to the NFL... Brown is not going to just flop over on the field, he is going to be just fine dispite missed practices. Also he will more than likely split carries with Gordon for the first 4 games. Another point I would like to touch on is his contract demands. $22 million is reasonable considering the money that Smith got. So Fin fans, settle down this isn't nearly as big of a deal as what you make it out to be.

Go Dolphins

$22 million guaranteed is reasonable? Alex Smith is a QB, Brown is an RB. IMO reasonable would be 5% more than the avg of the second pick last year and the first RB taken last year.

I'm not worried about him "getting up to speed", I just think if Miami is offering anything more than $16 million guaranteed then he should take it and be happy otherwise he risks alienating himself from the rest of the veterans on the team. Do you think JT, or ZT or SM appreciate some rookie demanding more money than anyone else on the team makes before he plays a down? I'll bet in spite of everything that Ricky has done, most of the veterans respect him a lot more than they respect Ronnie Brown.

 

[Agent51]

That's true, If the player can't perfrom there is no reason for him to start, And I only said that Ronnie Brown will be at the top when he comes in to camp, I never said he be starting game 1. However I don't expect Ronnie to fail either. You and I believe the same thing, I guess I just didn't clarify myself well enough in my original post.

As for the guy who mentioned Carson Palmer, Carson was drafted to be the number one but however he didn't perform well enough to stay number 1 and it didn't help that Kitna had a comeback yea. Again, I perfectly agree that a player shouldn't play because of his draft status IF he can't cut it. I just said that he would come in at 1 and not start at the very bottom.

And As I said about Williams, I just read in the paper that the bucs new depth chart has him at number 1. See what I mean?

Oh alright, yea, I misunderstood, I thought you meant he'd be at the top of the depth chart come regular season, no matter how he performed, my bad.

 

[Dphins4me]

I don't really look at it as a holdout.

As you shouldn't. A holdout can only happen when a player has a signed contract.

Brown & Miami have simply not reaches an agreement on a deal.

 

[zephon]

As you shouldn't. A holdout can only happen when a player has a signed contract.

Brown & Miami have simply not reaches an agreement on a deal.

I like it when people agree with me.
:)

 

[LAphinfan]

As you shouldn't. A holdout can only happen when a player has a signed contract.

Brown & Miami have simply not reaches an agreement on a deal.

Exactly. Smith just signed his contract like 4-5 days a go and there was no way Ronnie was going to be signed before that. That's just how it goes for the top ten picks. I'm optimistic that a deal will be worked out by the end of this week. I don't think the front office is balking at the 22 mil. figure b/c there is no way around it. The market has been set. There is a lot more that goes into a contract than just signing bonuses and graduated salaries, though. It's all of the other provisions in the contract that are being hashed out right now. Hopefully we'll have a well-paid and happy Ronnie in camp by week's end.

 

[Mike13]

I think that everyone is overreacting just a tad on Brown's holdout. RB has the easiest transition to the NFL... Brown is not going to just flop over on the field, he is going to be just fine dispite missed practices. Also he will more than likely split carries with Gordon for the first 4 games. Another point I would like to touch on is his contract demands. $22 million is reasonable considering the money that Smith got. So Fin fans, settle down this isn't nearly as big of a deal as what you make it out to be.

Go Dolphins

Im worried about how much time he will miss, although as long as he gets plenty of practice Im sure he will be fine as you say.

brown should be in camp as soon as possible because ricky might be stealing his job from under his nose with solid play in training camp, along with gordon looking alright. he is losing out on playing time and when he comes into camp he will have to start at the bottom of the depth chart just like everyone else...

Man Ricky aint stealing no job from anyone and Ronnie wont be at the bottom of the depth chart. That happened toRicky because he hasnt played in a year.

 

[CitizenSnips]

I think that everyone is overreacting just a tad on Brown's holdout. RB has the easiest transition to the NFL... Brown is not going to just flop over on the field, he is going to be just fine dispite missed practices. Also he will more than likely split carries with Gordon for the first 4 games. Another point I would like to touch on is his contract demands. $22 million is reasonable considering the money that Smith got. So Fin fans, settle down this isn't nearly as big of a deal as what you make it out to be.

Go Dolphins

i totally agree. people need to settle down. Theres still about 20 some odd number of teams without their #1 picks signed yet. Everyones just making such a big deal about it for us because we got the HOF game, and our camp opened a week earlier then everyone elses. Think about it, if we didn't have the HOF game, Brown would have only missed a practice or so right about now. I don't blame him one bit for just waiting to get the right contract that he wants. Its to easy to say "go off what gallery got last year" because if smith had done that with manning, he would have lost out on millions. can any of us blame them?