Browns offense in 2011

[flynryan15]

I watched every friggen Browns game because I was in Cleveland and had them rammed down my throat! The sports bar I would goto to catch the Dolphins is where the local CBS affiliate did their pre and post game show. I can tell you this much for 2 years Brian Daboll was a hated man, more so then Henning was to us, and when he turned cheek to Holgrem trying to help him last year I thought the Cleveland faithful were going to burn.down his house! That said Cleveland had a better RB, QB, TE, FB, and oline then us last year, the only place we were clearly better was WR. Everyone loves to bring up the New England game while ignoring several other terrible games! Watch him against PIT, BAL or hell 6 points against the Bills!

 

[dlockz]

I watched every friggen Browns game because I was in Cleveland and had them rammed down my throat! The sports bar I would goto to catch the Dolphins is where the local CBS affiliate did their pre and post game show. I can tell you this much for 2 years Brian Daboll was a hated man, more so then Henning was to us, and when he turned cheek to Holgrem trying to help him last year I thought the Cleveland faithful were going to burn.down his house! That said Cleveland had a better RB, QB, TE, FB, and oline then us last year, the only place we were clearly better was WR. Everyone loves to bring up the New England game while ignoring several other terrible games! Watch him against PIT, BAL or hell 6 points against the Bills!

who cares what they did over a season it only matters for something to possibly support our arguement> who cares if they finished 30th or worse in defense Daboll is good because these clowns hired him.

 

[McMichael81Fan]

who cares what they did over a season it only matters for something to possibly support our arguement> who cares if they finished 30th or worse in defense Daboll is good because these clowns hired him.

You are a miserable fan from what I get from all of your posts. Do you think we have a good defense?

 

[dlockz]

You are a miserable fan from what I get from all of your posts. Do you think we have a good defense?

First of all I could care less what u think. i have been a dolphin fan from thier and mine inception. have I ever said they dont have a good defense. Being a fan does not mean I have to agree with everything the bozos that run my team do. Thats like saying im a poor american because I dont support every decision the president makes but of course some people have called plenty of people that. I guess in your book everything your team does has to be the greatest thing since sliced pie.
if u are happy with a back to back 7-9 team more friggin power to u.

 

[flynryan15]

who cares what they did over a season it only matters for something to possibly support our arguement> who cares if they finished 30th or worse in defense Daboll is good because these clowns hired him.

Did you see him play New England? Only that matters he was awesome on that day! This wasn't a blind squirrel finding a nut! That was a diamond that Sparano is going to fist pump out of the rough!

 

[McMichael81Fan]

First of all I could care less what u think. i have been a dolphin fan from thier and mine inception. have I ever said they dont have a good defense. Being a fan does not mean I have to agree with everything the bozos that run my team do. Thats like saying im a poor american because I dont support every decision the president makes but of course some people have called plenty of people that. I guess in your book everything your team does has to be the greatest thing since sliced pie.
if u are happy with a back to back 7-9 team more friggin power to u.

I want a winner here as much as the next guy, believe me. Don't go on rants saying our front office are 'clowns' and such when we have a top 5 defense that they have completely put together. I'm a realist and I know our offense was nonexistent last season, which basically means that we won 7 games with just a defense. Our piss poor offense is depending on Henne's success and therefore I am whole-heartedly rooting for this kid to become a good quarterback little by little, people that apparently have their mind made up that they would would rather see Chad fail than succeed. If you are going to root for a team that means you are going to root for it's players, not root against them. You seem to be sold on Denver and Orton, so why not just become a Broncos fan, so you can get your wish and see 'your' team fail miserably this season. Get on board or don't, just stop bitching about thing after thing.

 

[dlockz]

Did you see him play New England? Only that matters he was awesome on that day! This wasn't a blind squirrel finding a nut! That was a diamond that Sparano is going to fist pump out of the rough!

U have to judge him by the body of his work as an OC he two years he finished 30th or worse twice, How could he do any worse. Shouldnt there be some improvement either year. he took over a team that was ranked like 30th in offense and two years later thye were in the same place great job your awesome daboll.

 

[dlockz]

I want a winner here as much as the next guy, believe me. Don't go on rants saying our front office are 'clowns' and such when we have a top 5 defense that they have completely put together. I'm a realist and I know our offense was nonexistent last season, which basically means that we won 7 games with just a defense. Our piss poor offense is depending on Henne's success and therefore I am whole-heartedly rooting for this kid to become a good quarterback little by little, people that apparently have their mind made up that they would would rather see Chad fail than succeed. If you are going to root for a team that means you are going to root for it's players, not root against them. You seem to be sold on Denver and Orton, so why not just become a Broncos fan, so you can get your wish and see 'your' team fail miserably this season. Get on board or don't, just stop bitching about thing after thing.

I can ***** about what I wanna ***** about so dont tell me who to be a fan of. Geesh im a bad fan because I think orton is a better qb than henne . So I guess u dont think any qb is better than Henne and if u do I guess u should become a fan of that team. I support the Miami Dolphins just like I support the country Im proud of but that doesnt mean Tony sparano is a good coach or that I though george Bush was a good president . So people that would wish for another President rather than Obama I guess are unamerican. Also u really dont know anything about my opinion. i was happy to get henne as the Ryan consolation prize, I thought he was a good draft pick and would be a good qb. I blame the qb coach , the head coach and the last OC for hurting his development but all in all he was not a good qb last year.

Also u act like this is the first time we had a top defense.We had a top defense under wanny for many years and in 2006 actually had a top 5 defense in pts and yardage and we all know how 2007 turned out. For your info we were 6th in yardage and 14th in pts defensively last year. So i will rant about what i like if u dont like it rant back or dont read. U seem quite satisfied with being mediocre so go for it.

 

[McMichael81Fan]

I can ***** about what I wanna ***** about so dont tell me who to be a fan of. Geesh im a bad fan because I think orton is a better qb than henne . So I guess u dont think any qb is better than Henne and if u do I guess u should become a fan of that team. I support the Miami Dolphins just like I support the country Im proud of but that doesnt mean Tony sparano is a good coach or that I though george Bush was a good president . So people that would wish for another President rather than Obama I guess are unamerican. Also u really dont know anything about my opinion. i was happy to get henne as the Ryan consolation prize, I thought he was a good draft pick and would be a good qb. I blame the qb coach , the head coach and the last OC for hurting his development but all in all he was not a good qb last year.

Also u act like this is the first time we had a top defense.We had a top defense under wanny for many years and in 2006 actually had a top 5 defense in pts and yardage and we all know how 2007 turned out. For your info we were 6th in yardage and 14th in pts defensively last year. So i will rant about what i like if u dont like it rant back or dont read. U seem quite satisfied with being mediocre so go for it.

Kyle Orton is mediocre, as is your analysis of the game, not to mention the inability to watch something good be built over the course of a 3-4 year span. We were 1-15 in 2007, how long do you think it takes to build a solid football team from the ground up? The Texans have been around for 10 years and still haven't played a playoff game. We are on the brink and I think that we are a playoff team this season. Sit back and enjoy the ride, or don't enjoy it but it's going to happen sizzlechest.

 

[dlockz]

Kyle Orton is mediocre, as is your analysis of the game, not to mention the inability to watch something good be built over the course of a 3-4 year span. We were 1-15 in 2007, how long do you think it takes to build a solid football team from the ground up? The Texans have been around for 10 years and still haven't played a playoff game. We are on the brink and I think that we are a playoff team this season. Sit back and enjoy the ride, or don't enjoy it but it's going to happen sizzlechest.

Please do debate on anything I have said that u care to shed light on. I dont know Atlanta built a damn good football team in much less than 5 friggin years. let me see Tampa bay is back in playoffs, but of course miami is the only team that should take 5 years to build a winner. Let me see its year 4 and of course we have to switch the OL around again, still dont have qb, changed out runningbacks , weak Te's but of course we are just on the cusp. Lets also not forget that at the end of year three we had to fire his choice of OC and change the Wr, OC and qb coach. Yea he is right on track with this team.

also if a qb that had a rating of 87 is medicore what does that mean about a qb that was like 10 points lower.

 

[ChambersWI]

let's put it this way. Ben Watson led the Browns in receptions as a TE with 68. RB Peyton Hillis was second at 61. Chansi Stuckey, who wasn't even a full time starter only starting 5 games, was 3rd with 40. Brian Robiskie started 11 games and only had 29 receptions.

Again, I've said before Daboll is not faultless for the offense being bad, but when he you look at the lack of talent he had (plus Holmgren wanting to run a strict WCO) it's not surprising he struggled.

Of course, the guy everybody wanted as OC (Rob Chudinzki) had 1 good season as OC, and 1 awful with the awful being most recent.

 

[McMichael81Fan]

Please do debate on anything I have said that u care to shed light on. I dont know Atlanta built a damn good football team in much less than 5 friggin years. let me see Tampa bay is back in playoffs, but of course miami is the only team that should take 5 years to build a winner. Let me see its year 4 and of course we have to switch the OL around again, still dont have qb, changed out runningbacks , weak Te's but of course we are just on the cusp. Lets also not forget that at the end of year three we had to fire his choice of OC and change the Wr, OC and qb coach. Yea he is right on track with this team.

also if a qb that had a rating of 87 is medicore what does that mean about a qb that was like 10 points lower.

You must not be familiar with Orton's rating on 3rd down, or in the red zone for that matter. Tampa was not in the playoffs last season, and we have a better football team than they do in my opinion. The Falcons had their qb go to jail that offseason and their coach quit midseason, the following season the Falcons AND THE DOLPHINS made the playoffs. They struck gold with Ryan and we struck gold with Long, no big deal.

 

[dlockz]

You must not be familiar with Orton's rating on 3rd down, or in the red zone for that matter. Tampa was not in the playoffs last season, and we have a better football team than they do in my opinion. The Falcons had their qb go to jail that offseason and their coach quit midseason, the following season the Falcons AND THE DOLPHINS made the playoffs. They struck gold with Ryan and we struck gold with Long, no big deal.

I left off playoff hunt my bad . The falcons have had a winning season every year that Matt Ryan has been there not exactly the same as going back to back 7-9. while they progressed to 13-3 we are stuck at 7-9.
this from a team that had not made the playoffs in three years. As for 3rd down rating and red zone u have to go deeper than just saying what he did on thrid down and what he did in redzone. there are alot of variables. I am willing to bet he lead his team to more scores than ours did. so a qb should be penalized because he had success on 1st or second down or that he scored from 22 yards out.

 

[McMichael81Fan]

I left off playoff hunt my bad . The falcons have had a winning season every year that Matt Ryan has been there not exactly the same as going back to back 7-9. while they progressed to 13-3 we are stuck at 7-9.
this from a team that had not made the playoffs in three years. As for 3rd down rating and red zone u have to go deeper than just saying what he did on thrid down and what he did in redzone. there are alot of variables. I am willing to bet he lead his team to more scores than ours did. so a qb should be penalized because he had success on 1st or second down or that he scored from 22 yards out.

The times they are a changing -- Bob Dylan

 

[finfan54]

im a believer in guys making moves to other teams that benefit them. a guy who was well hated in cleveland was bill belichick. i dont care for "he sucks" arguements. the overuse of the word sucks means nothing. its laziness.

sucking is one thing. being mediocre is another. being good is another. and being great is another. Not many people say much in between.