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Im done blaming the players, I now am blaming Scott, be a smart playcaller instead of just a creative one.

Enough with trying to be bold, Miami has a strength play to it. We are second in yards per rushing attempt. We have a rookie that last week averaged 11.9 YPC. Get the clue.

If we make teams think we are a running team our passing game will open up a bit more. IE what happened in Denver with them putting 8 in a box.

Florida media for once is seeing this and saying the same so I know im not alone. (just read skolnick article agree 100%) I mean gees I can see why the eagles throw it 80% of the time they got westbrook.

Dont get me wrong dont be Dave, No one wants to see run, run, run punt, but at least attempt to run it more than 15 times. Considering you are passing it what 60 times.

I bet if we had run the ball more this season we would be 4-2 instead of 2-4.
 
im not sure of the exact numbers but KC had roughly twice the time of possesion that we had, theres no way to win a game like that. Our defense got run over, the defense was terrible last week. So was Gus.
 
finfansince72 said:
im not sure of the exact numbers but KC had roughly twice the time of possesion that we had, theres no way to win a game like that. Our defense got run over, the defense was terrible last week. So was Gus.
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When you consider the D spent over 40 mins on the field, 30 points is not too bad a total to give up. The O managed to score 20 in less than 20 minutes.

Obviously some of the blame lies with the D - if they made some stops, they could get off the field. But when the O can't sustain a drive, it really forces the D to play a lot more than they'd like.
 
CanadaPhinsFan said:
When you consider the D spent over 40 mins on the field, 30 points is not too bad a total to give up. The O managed to score 20 in less than 20 minutes.

Obviously some of the blame lies with the D - if they made some stops, they could get off the field. But when the O can't sustain a drive, it really forces the D to play a lot more than they'd like.
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6 points in the first half against the 30th ranked defense is just unacceptable. Especially when they had to travel the same day and had very little time to gameplan against our offense.
 
the reason TOP was so off balanced was because we threw it so many times, without running you dont eat up the clock, considering we completed what 12 passes all day
 
WestCoastPhins said:
Im done blaming the players, I now am blaming Scott, be a smart playcaller instead of just a creative one.

Enough with trying to be bold, Miami has a strength play to it. We are second in yards per rushing attempt. We have a rookie that last week averaged 11.9 YPC. Get the clue.

If we make teams think we are a running team our passing game will open up a bit more. IE what happened in Denver with them putting 8 in a box.

Florida media for once is seeing this and saying the same so I know im not alone. (just read skolnick article agree 100%) I mean gees I can see why the eagles throw it 80% of the time they got westbrook.

Dont get me wrong dont be Dave, No one wants to see run, run, run punt, but at least attempt to run it more than 15 times. Considering you are passing it what 60 times.

I bet if we had run the ball more this season we would be 4-2 instead of 2-4.
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While the run game will never be effective if you don't run it, when you get behind, you run the ball less and pass more to try to catch up. Linehan shares some blame for our O woes, but if we have 12 possessions and 9 of them are 3 adn out, who is to blame ?? (Hint: the guys wearing the pads).
Linehan's play calling has put us in position to be successful. We've had wide open recievers and Gus can't hit them. We've had wide open recievers and the receivers have had to alter the routes or comeback short of the planned spot because the ball was short. We've had open recievers and the balls were overthrown. On the other hand, there have been few holes for the RBs (Ricky, Ronnie, Sammy, whoever). The passing game can be used to open the run lanes as well as vice versa. The problem is that the guys with the pads aren't executing the plays, in particular, Gus. When the QB starts hitting the recievers where then can catch the ball and in stride, things will change for this O...the running lanes will be there....You've heard of the squeaky wheel, well our QB position is makign the loudest noise and nothing is being done about that, right now...
 
LarryFinFan said:
While the run game will never be effective if you don't run it, when you get behind, you run the ball less and pass more to try to catch up. Linehan shares some blame for our O woes, but if we have 12 possessions and 9 of them are 3 adn out, who is to blame ?? (Hint: the guys wearing the pads).
Linehan's play calling has put us in position to be successful. We've had wide open recievers and Gus can't hit them. We've had wide open recievers and the receivers have had to alter the routes or comeback short of the planned spot because the ball was short. We've had open recievers and the balls were overthrown. On the other hand, there have been few holes for the RBs (Ricky, Ronnie, Sammy, whoever). The passing game can be used to open the run lanes as well as vice versa. The problem is that the guys with the pads aren't executing the plays, in particular, Gus. When the QB starts hitting the recievers where then can catch the ball and in stride, things will change for this O...the running lanes will be there....You've heard of the squeaky wheel, well our QB position is makign the loudest noise and nothing is being done about that, right now...
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Thats it Larry, your cut off! 64% passing to 34% run. Get a clue.
 
But the run game last week was effective, and it has been KC's weekness, why didnt we run it more than 15 times (9 to ronnie, 6 to ricky), 7 point deficit doesnt mean your in catchup mode when its the first quarter. The running lanes are there and the calls are not being made for runs thats the problem.We need to be like pittsburg now and have our running game open up our passes, let Gus only throw 12 times a game.
 
I've been saying this over and over in other threads and I am in full agreement. I even wrote an email to all the writers of the miami papers. This guy is getting too much slack. His play calling sucks. If you pay attention to the game, he gives up on the run even when it's working. He passes constantly which affects the time of possesion. That's where statistics can be misleading. He calls two pass plays for every one run play. Do the math. With frerotte at QB, that usually means a stopped clock twice and the running backs have to gain 15 yards on their one carry for a first down (cause we will have a false start).
Linehan is overrated and always has been overrated. He had moss and culpepper. The key to winning is running the ball effectively and defense. We could run the ball effectively if he would let us and that would give the defense more time off the field.
Watch the games. He is not throwing because he has to, he is throwing because he wants to.:fire:
 
ya agree, this thread was inevitable. The first few weeks I saw some impressive calls, but something has been lacking since then. It seems once we got Ronnie going we pulled back on him, and now the infusion of Ricky means we are trying to get another RB back into the flow, During the Regular season !!!!
 
i just find it hard to lay all the blame on Lineham when Frerotte played as bad as he did. He was what 11 of 29?
 
i agree... after ronnie had that score , then priest came back and scored we were sitll only down by 8, no need to abandon the run... next possesion 2 runs 4 passes, punt... KC gets a field goal, now down 11, not a huge margin, still plenty of time in the 3rd quarter... next posession 3 passes, punt... and KC gets another field goal and by that time it was 14 down and getting out of hand...

so many times i thought we could sneak in some runs, at the end of the first half, when randy got that 1st and goal from like the 5... we tried to pass all 3 times, at least sneak in a run on first down to keep them honest for 2nd down, even if we didn't get in with the run we could have gotten closer to the goal line, had a timeout and we could have play actioned on 2nd down... instead 3 passes and a 20 something yard field goal... not to mention that 2nd and 1 3rd and 1 ****...

we need to run more, period... this article was dead on about that if you guys didn't read it... http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-skolnick24oct24,0,3483044.column?coll=sfla-dolphins-front

The Dolphins have attempted runs on 133 official plays, including the five by receiver Chris Chambers and seven by Frerotte. They have attempted passes on 229 official plays, including the 10 times Frerotte has been sacked.

That's a ratio of 36.7 to 63.3.

That's ridiculous.

You say "they're passing because they have to, not because they want to." You cite strong run defenses, the extra body in the box, the line's run-blocking weakness and the trailing that has forced passing.

Still, the coaching staff must somehow fix the imbalance.

This is the third-most pass-happy (or should that be pass-angry?) team in Dolphins' history.

Think about that.

The league's all-time passer played here for 17 seasons, and only in 1986 and 1988, when the Dolphins were 14-18, did Marino's offenses have a greater aerial leaning.
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^^ WOW..... no wonder our D is on the field so much.


finfansince72 said:
i just find it hard to lay all the blame on Lineham when Frerotte played as bad as he did. He was what 11 of 29?
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no doubt, but if we could commit to running the ball.. ( I know we've been down early lately so its not easy ) I guess we can't expect Gus to hafta come from behind all game.
 
Just manufacture 1st downs via the run game, big plays will come later.
 
Hey, I've got an idea! Let's just fire all of our coaches including Linehan and Saban and while were at it, Houck. Then we will get some "real" coaches in here and they will fix this mess.

Please!!!! Let's give these guys some time. I truly think Linehan and Saban and the rest of the staff didn't know what they were getting into, but with that said, I think they will be able to fix this through drafts and free agency. It is going to take a complete overhaul. I am certainly glad the authors of these threads are not coaches. Nothing against speaking out, but give these coaches some time.
 
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