Can Somebody Explain the Brandon Marshall Situation to Me?

[Blitz]

I have to admit I have not followed the NFL as closely as in the past, but what exactly has Brandon Marshall done that puts him on par with Terrell Owens? All I seem to recall is he head-butted with McDaniels a time or two last season. If I were Marshall, I'd be pissed that I had to go from catching passes from Cutler to catching passes from Orton.

Marshall is only 25 and has gained over 100 receptions and 1000 yards each of the past three seasons. He caught 10 TDs last season. In my humble opinion, the guy is a young producer who is well worth the twelfth overall pick if he is going to continue posting 100 reception/1000 yard/10 TD seasons. It is hard to expect more than that from a WR, twelfth overall pick or higher. If you look at his numbers, he has only gotten better with each passing year even though he went from having a Pro Bowl QB to catching passes from a journeyman. What do you think he could accomplish in his prime with Henne as his QB?

Let's not forget that Yatil Green was the last WR we chose close to the twelfth overall pick...

 

[ROADRUNNER]

good player on the field, f####d up off the field...........we pass

 

[Blitz]

good player on the field, f####d up off the field...........we pass

But what leads us to believe he is f'd up off the field? That's what I am missing. Was there more than just a head-butting or two with McDaniels? I keep hearing he is f'd up, but I really cannot find anything that shows me he has done much more than had a few disagreements with McDaniels. I have not seen anything that leads me to believe he is a cancer like Terrell Owens, or a problem child like Randy Moss was prior to landing in New England.

I know he had the club incident three years ago, but I am quite certain that he learned his lesson there. It certainly has not impacted his performance on the field.

I could really care less what a guy does off the field so long as he keeps getting the job done well on the field. Then again, maybe there is something I have not heard that everybody else seems to know.

 

[mia4ever]

Very Bad Bad Man....

on and off the girdiron..

 

[rayfinkle5]

How about he escalated an altercation that ended in his teammate/friend getting killed. Darrent Williams was not the target the night he was murdered, Brandon Marshall was. If you don't believe me...

So now it's perfectly clear why Marshall thinks of the situation "every night." Marshall's cousin got into a verbal squabble with some guys, Marshall tried unsuccessfully to defuse the situation, Marshall eventually "escalated" the incident to the point where a guy went to get a gun, the guy got a gun, and the guy fired the gun into a limo other than the limo in which Marshall was riding.

Here is the link:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...imony-leaves-no-doubt-he-was-the-real-target/

 

[levv151]

and all of our hands have been soaking in Ivory soap right? no one knows the true parameters of what happened...we get the blessed medias spin...all I know is his talent and the IMMEDIATE impact he could have on the field for this offense is well worth the risk of trading #12. why give all that money to an unproven rookie? give it to someone who has shown, consistently, that he can be a game-changer. Also let him know that you're happy to eat crow should his personal struggles start taking the spotlight and he'll be gone as fast as he came in...

 

[Blitz]

How about he escalated an altercation that ended in his teammate/cousin/friend getting killed. Darrent Williams was not the target the night he was murdered, Brandon Marshall was. If you don't believe me...



Here is the link:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...imony-leaves-no-doubt-he-was-the-real-target/

I am quite certain that whatever it is Marshall said, it did not warrant that individual's response (i.e., to shoot into Marshall's limousine).

Marshall was a 22-year-old millionaire. I am not making excuses, or anything, but I am sure he said some obnoxious things. That does not mean anybody should have died because of that, though. It is not like Marshall killed or tried to kill somebody.

 

[Blitz]

and all of our hands have been soaking in Ivory soap right? no one knows the true parameters of what happened...we get the blessed medias spin...all I know is his talent and the IMMEDIATE impact he could have on the field for this offense is well worth the risk of trading #12. why give all that money to an unproven rookie? give it to someone who has shown, consistently, that he can be a game-changer. Also let him know that you're happy to eat crow should his personal struggles start taking the spotlight and he'll be gone as fast as he came in...

I'm with you, buddy.

Look at what Randy Moss did for New England. And he pulled a complete 180 off the field after being traded to them. For another example, Cris Carter was a problem child in Philadelphia, and then smartened up in Minnesota. It can happen.

Drafting a rookie with the twelfth overall pick is more of a gamble than trading for Marshall. Marshall is only 25 and has proven himself in this league at an all-pro level. Every rookie is a complete unknown in this league in every way, on and off the field.

I'll take my chances with an all-pro over an unknown rookie.

 

[rayfinkle5]

You asked a question and I answered it with a fact. Now I am the bad guy who claims to have never done anything wrong. I love this forum! The people here will defend anything. Question: Why is B. Marshall considered a bad guy? Answer: People believe he got his friend killed. Response: And you are perfect?... media bias... blah, blah, blah. If you guys don't want answers then don't come on here and ask questions.

Here are a couple more facts for you to defend:
1. He has a history of abusing women including 7 police reports in three states and Puerto Rico.
2. Responsible athletes take care of themselves in the offseason. Marshall, instead, puts his arm threw a TV screen, severing an artery and a vein, damaging a nerve and cutting tendons to five muscles. Who was to blame? Not Marshall! How about a McDonalds wrapper. Damn those things are dangerous!

 

[mia4ever]

I not ever talking about the Murder ..

But the Beating up on women ...the Bar Fights..etc.etc,

If there're shoot at the kid in Denver ..
Imainging ..Marshall live in Miami ....

I from Miami not the beach
but where all the shoot-outs and killings happen..

It ain't pretty ...
If BM was trade to Miami he had better keep his nose clean.
B/c these blocks don't play ,son.....

http://www.aetv.com/the_first_48/detectives/index.jsp

 

[Blitz]

You asked a question and I answered it with a fact. Now I am the bad guy who claims to have never done anything wrong.

WOAH! Chill, dude. You're not a bad guy. You're a Dolfan, so of course I respect ya and like ya! :)

Question: Why is B. Marshall considered a bad guy? Answer: People believe he got his friend killed.

I just don't see that. Whatever Marshall said, it did not warrant that person's response. The guy who pulled the trigger killed Marshall's friend. Marshall did not kill his friend.

Here are a couple more facts for you to defend:
1. He has a history of abusing women including 7 police reports in three states and Puerto Rico.

I did not know that. That does raise a flag. With that said, who knows if the women are just money-grabbers? Then again, 7 reports is an unusually high number.

2. Responsible athletes take care of themselves in the offseason. Marshall, instead, puts his arm threw a TV screen, severing an artery and a vein, damaging a nerve and cutting tendons to five muscles. Who was to blame?

Never heard this one. Even so, I could care less what he does in the offseason so long as it is legal and he produces 1000 yard/100 reception/10 TD seasons for us during the season. Even if he just gives us one or two seasons of production like that before our other WRs blossom, I think it is worth it!

 

[AXAFinFan]

Am I missing something ... my thinking is if we don't get marshall someone else will, leaving Denver with a void at #1 WR. They pick #11 in front of us in which case they may pick Dez to replace Marshall.

If we want Dez then we would most likely have to trade down to get him and give up additional picks.

Unless a #1 WR is not a priority??? ... AGAIN!!!

 

[satz]

If pratice and training camp includes on field then a tonne of issues,

1)He takes off wednesday and thursday off and does not showup for pratice
2)When he was fined and showed up he got on the pratice field and then started to take the football and kicked it at the coaches and other players .
3)During drills he grabbed the football from other units and does not let your team pratice.
4)This is not a 1 yr thing as we projected to be.Shannan was ready to get rid of him before this year as he has been a head case from the day he was drafted.
5)Josh hiring helped him as he stayed 1 more year but the thing is with josh what he was doing got out.
6)No one what he did as he was benched for a last game that the team needed to win.

why people ignore that shannan was ready to ship him off due to his stupidity is beyond me. he is a headcase from the day he was drafted.

 

[Blitz]

If pratice and training camp includes on field then a tonne of issues,

1)He takes off wednesday and thursday off and does not showup for pratice
2)When he was fined and showed up he got on the pratice field and then started to take the football and kicked it at the coaches and other players .
3)During drills he grabbed the football from other units and does not let your team pratice.
4)This is not a 1 yr thing as we projected to be.Shannan was ready to get rid of him before this year as he has been a head case from the day he was drafted.
5)Josh hiring helped him as he stayed 1 more year but the thing is with josh what he was doing got out.
6)No one what he did as he was benched for a last game that the team needed to win.

why people ignore that shannan was ready to ship him off due to his stupidity is beyond me. he is a headcase from the day he was drafted.

Obviously he has some maturity issues. Perhaps a change of scenery, along with growing older, will change that?

The guy is a beast on the field. There is risk involved in trading for him, just like trading for anybody else, but the potential benefits outweigh the potential costs IMHO. Indeed, we would have to be quite lucky to draft somebody better with the twelfth overall pick beings as the draft is such a crap-shoot. Can you name the last player we drafted who was definitively better than Brandon Marshall on the field? My guess would be Jason Taylor in the 1997 draft, thirteen years ago! How about the last player we drafted in the first-round who was definitively better on the field? I would say we would have to go back to 1983, or maybe 1990, for that! (Although Jake Long has the potential)

Best-case scenario: He becomes arguably the best WR in the league for the better half of this decade while keeping a clean, low-profile off the field.

Worst-case scenario: We get one or two good seasons of production from him, but he continues to be a headcase and distraction in the locker room. As a result, we cut our losses and get a fourth rounder for him after our other WRs blossom and ultimately replace him.

 

[NYinBostonFin]

I'm with you, buddy.

Look at what Randy Moss did for New England. And he pulled a complete 180 off the field after being traded to them. For another example, Cris Carter was a problem child in Philadelphia, and then smartened up in Minnesota. It can happen.

Drafting a rookie with the twelfth overall pick is more of a gamble than trading for Marshall. Marshall is only 25 and has proven himself in this league at an all-pro level. Every rookie is a complete unknown in this league in every way, on and off the field.

I'll take my chances with an all-pro over an unknown rookie.

I would love to have Marshall here...but the red flags are there and would put a big red light on me trading our #1 for him.

Besides all the nonsense legally, slipping on a McD's bag and injuring himself, then problems during practice with coaching (not sure about gametime)...way too risky for a #1 pick. Even if its McDaniels being an a-hole

Moss went to NE for a #3 or 4....not an early 1....thats huge.

And of course nothing is certain in the NFL, especially in the draft... but if we traded our #1 to spend on Marshall and he got suspended the year, which he is one infraction away....our FO looks like morons. Esp if we had a chance instead to pick up our own possible #1 WR in Dez.

I have a feeling Denver will drop their price for him....but if not let someone else overpay. Not us at #12.