dlockz
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maybe because Stephen mcghee the incumbent qb played well and johnson played well in his place. mcghee was drafted mid rounds and johnson has been in nfl camps, its not like these guys were scrubs.
Can someone please tell me what is going on at FS/SS?
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maybe because Stephen mcghee the incumbent qb played well and johnson played well in his place. mcghee was drafted mid rounds and johnson has been in nfl camps, its not like these guys were scrubs.
That's all fine and good speculation (except the part about Jerrod Johnson not being scrub, which is what he undoubtedly is). But I'd like to know the real reason.
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and thats a good thing lol
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Coyle has a pretty good record of training up his secondary to perform well. He polished a few turds pretty well in the last few seasons so should be able to build a good secondary from what we have, plus maybe a draft pick.
But what he says he insists on are players who have the skills to make interceptions. Says not all players have that, hence Yeremiah getting the chop and maybe also Sean Smith.
We finally have a coaching staff who can develop players. I'm happy to wait and see what they achieve with the raw materials before passing judgement and declaring that we have gaping defensive holes. I'm not sure we do.
But what he says he insists on are players who have the skills to make interceptions. Says not all players have that, hence Yeremiah getting the chop and maybe also Sean Smith.
We finally have a coaching staff who can develop players. I'm happy to wait and see what they achieve with the raw materials before passing judgement and declaring that we have gaping defensive holes. I'm not sure we do.
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First off, Marshall will get the chance to unseat Sean Smith as base package starter. I'm pretty sure that's why they went after him. He's much better in run support than Smith
Look for Smith to only play in our nickel package (although that would be the whole game against some teams). In our nickel package I think Smith will play boundary corner and Marshall will play the nickel CB role which is probably what he is best at
I know Marshall played a little bit at safety last season but I don't think he started a game there. 95+% of his snaps have been at corner / nickel corner. I think you'd only consider a switch to safety if he disappoints at corner
Look for Smith to only play in our nickel package (although that would be the whole game against some teams). In our nickel package I think Smith will play boundary corner and Marshall will play the nickel CB role which is probably what he is best at
I know Marshall played a little bit at safety last season but I don't think he started a game there. 95+% of his snaps have been at corner / nickel corner. I think you'd only consider a switch to safety if he disappoints at corner
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Because Tannenhil was their leading wide receiver for those 2 years he was so "called" on the bench.
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i'll be pretty shocked if kirkpatrick is the pick...that said i do think nickle corner is a draft emphasis for us...we've been kicking around cb josh robinson and jayron hosley in the draft so i think pretty fair bet that in the top 3 rounds we bring in another corner...and again we have to prepare for the likely exodus of sean smith after this season...i think he'll likley price himself out of miami not so much with his play but with his inflated feelings about himself as a player...
Yeah, I'm aware. Plenty of top quarterback prospects come into top schools every year and have to switch positions. It's how it goes. But generally coaches don't take the guys who actually have top quarterback ability and move them around. They keep them at quarterback.
Look, I'm not saying it's a conspiracy or anything. It's just a question I need to have answered. Was Tannehill moved because they didn't think he had the goods and then moved back basically out of desperation? Or did he have such explosive natural ability they thought they had to get him on the field one way or another (or Tannehill begged to get on the field the way Joe Theismann started his career with the Redskins as a punt returner)?
The whole thing is just weird to me. You don't take a prized dairy cow and kill it for it's meat. You recognize what it is and use it appropriately.
I don't think you can take a corner in the 2nd or 3rd round and start him at the nickel. That's a more important position than that, especially in a division with Wes Welker. The combination of signing Marshall and saying he's a corner and then letting Will Allen walk just reeks to me of a plan to take a corner in the 1st, not unlike the subterfuge we played with Randy Starks being moved to nose tackle the year we took Odrick in the 1st.
Maybe the plan is for Marshall to play free safety in the base defense and then Clemons comes in in nickel situations with Marshall being the nickel CB, but that's a pretty awkward solution.
As for Sean Smith, I think you're reading his personality wrong. He doesn't actually strike me as a super confident player. He talks the talk that way, but his body language (and the cold streak he went on catching the football) says otherwise.
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would not surprise me at all. When Philbin was asked about David and Smith, he specifically mentioned how physical Davis was and then went on to how good a tackler Marshall was.......next to nothing regarding Smith. IMO, Coyle likes physical good tackling corners and if so Smith will be traded or only used in nickel and dime.
hoops
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how many teams in the league are running 1st round nickle corners??? those guys primarily consist of your shorter more short area quick acceleration than long speed physical hands on sure tacklers...guys that run in that mid 4.5's to even 4.6 flat range but have tremendous strength in their hands and can mirror guys in short spaces...those guys aren't usually taken with 1st round picks...the first round guys have the length and the elite level top end speed and acceleration and high end ball skills...
as for kirkpatrick i don't really see him as a nickle corner anyways...he to me is more your cover 2 boundary cb the guy that lets you catch it in front of him and then makes a sure tackle and is solid in run support...i don't think he's as quick twitch as you'd like in the nickle...he screams cover 2 to me
the sean smith thing you're probably right cause any guy who needs to give the incomplete signal with his hands any time a balls within 30 feet of him probably lacks for some self esteem and confidence...but i still think he thinks he's gonna get paid more than he's actually worth on the market this next offseason
My guess would be that Vontae would be moved inside to play nickel in this scheme. But I agree with you that it would be sort of unprecedented and strange. Unfortunately, that's exactly the kind of thing we do... the exact thing we did with the whole Starks/Odrick situation. Maybe this idea is too far out there but I would have never believed we would have taken Odrick in the first round either.
One thing I do have a hard time believing is that the situation at nickel corner is going to remain the way it is.