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Chad Pennington's lack of arm strenght is not the problem!

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I have heard so much about Chad's lack of arm strenght and the inability to throw the deep ball as the reason the playcalling is so vanilla, and that being the reason we can't use Ginn. So i decided to look up some Pennington highlights to see if there were any of him throwing it deep. I looked at alot of videos of him and I did notice that there is not alot of zip on his throws and he likes to float it in there, but there are some of him throwing it deep. so i don't want to hear all that jazz about his arm strenght being the reason we can't get it downfield. if the recievers get open, he will get them the ball, wether it be short,deep, inside, or outside. the receivers just need to get open, and the playcalling needs to get a bit more aggressive. but please people stop blaming it on chad's lack of arm strenght, that argument is a little blown out of porportion. you dont need to have a cannon to be succesful, it doesn't hurt to have a cannon, but not a necessity. anyway, here is one highlight i found of him throwing it deep. there is alot more there to see, but i ain't gonna post every link.
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8014f89f
 
Week 1 of 2006, is that before or after he hurt his shoulder?
 
It's not about the bombs where you can float it and let your WR go get it, it's the outs and the other passes that have to be lasered in there. That's what Penny can't do.
 
this thread is correct. it's an easy thing for people to place the blame on, and it makes them sound like they have any idea what they're talking about, but they don't, which is why they pound this issue so hard. his arm isn't that strong, but it's strong enough to have a pretty good career in the NFL with a few playoff appearances and the highest completion percentage in the history of the league.
 
He doesn't throw a dart like Henne. I watched the AZ game, and when Henne came in I instantly noticed how there was no arc to his passes. He just fires the ball so fast it gets there in a HURRY. If that kind of pass would have been thrown on the goal line vs the Jets, we win that game. Penny's passes have a hump to them.

Does that make sense?
 
chillwill3000 said:
I have heard so much about Chad's lack of arm strenght and the inability to throw the deep ball as the reason the playcalling is so vanilla, and that being the reason we can't use Ginn. So i decided to look up some Pennington highlights to see if there were any of him throwing it deep. I looked at alot of videos of him and I did notice that there is not alot of zip on his throws and he likes to float it in there, but there are some of him throwing it deep. so i don't want to hear all that jazz about his arm strenght being the reason we can't get it downfield. if the recievers get open, he will get them the ball, wether it be short,deep, inside, or outside. the receivers just need to get open, and the playcalling needs to get a bit more aggressive. but please people stop blaming it on chad's lack of arm strenght, that argument is a little blown out of porportion. you dont need to have a cannon to be succesful, it doesn't hurt to have a cannon, but not a necessity. anyway, here is one highlight i found of him throwing it deep. there is alot more there to see, but i ain't gonna post every link.
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8014f89f
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thankyou for bringing this to every ones attention. I have been saying this all along. Its not Pennington, its the conservative playcalling. Henning needs to grow a set and let the man air it out. Whats the worst that could happen, a pick 6. So at least they will loosen up and we can get the ground game going. Henning is THE bust in my opnion.
 
I think it's ALL on the O line, not Henning. If you remember we had a PERFECT flea-flicker set up to Ginn, but the line allowed Ricky to get crushed before he could pitch the ball. That was a great playcall, the line didn't allow the play to be executed.
 
finjim said:
He doesn't throw a dart like Henne. I watched the AZ game, and when Henne came in I instantly noticed how there was no arc to his passes. He just fires the ball so fast it gets there in a HURRY. If that kind of pass would have been thrown on the goal line vs the Jets, we win that game. Penny's passes have a hump to them.

Does that make sense?
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yeah that makes sense. i'm just saying to people that say the lack of arm strenght is the reason we have no passing game and that's the reason teams will put 8 in da box against us, i don't belive that to be true. i think it is a combination of playcalling and recievers failing to gain seperation. but i did not see that play in the arizona game that you are referring too. sometime he does float it too much, i agree with that. but his arm is strong enough to get it done.
 
chillwill3000 said:
I have heard so much about Chad's lack of arm strenght and the inability to throw the deep ball as the reason the playcalling is so vanilla, and that being the reason we can't use Ginn. So i decided to look up some Pennington highlights to see if there were any of him throwing it deep. I looked at alot of videos of him and I did notice that there is not alot of zip on his throws and he likes to float it in there, but there are some of him throwing it deep. so i don't want to hear all that jazz about his arm strenght being the reason we can't get it downfield. if the recievers get open, he will get them the ball, wether it be short,deep, inside, or outside. the receivers just need to get open, and the playcalling needs to get a bit more aggressive. but please people stop blaming it on chad's lack of arm strenght, that argument is a little blown out of porportion. you dont need to have a cannon to be succesful, it doesn't hurt to have a cannon, but not a necessity. anyway, here is one highlight i found of him throwing it deep. there is alot more there to see, but i ain't gonna post every link.
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8014f89f
Click to expand...

OK so if u had to go all the way back to week 1 of 2006 to find proof that he can throw the ball down the field than id say u made everyone else point!!! He obv cant throw deep if u cant find a video every week of him doing it
 
look at all those passes, each time he had a nice pocket.

The line creates that.
 
I have to disagree with this thread. Looking at old game films is not an accurate way to judge how a player is presently. Pennington still has the intelligence and instincts he always had but his physical tools have declined to the point where they are limiting him and this team. It happens to all players eventually some sooner than others. Bo Jackson use to break 90 yard runs until he blew out his hip. I'm sure he still had the vision and instincts he always did but to put him out there and have him limp around wouldn't work because his physical was done. Most greats are retired because of their physical not their mental, if all it took were mental all the past greats would still be out there.
 
It's not the only problem, but it's def. a big problem. Our playbook is shortened because of his lack of arm strength.
 
Hennings playbook sucks anyway. i agree the guy doesn't have great arm strenght, but i don't see it as the reason for our non productive passing game.
 
i remember games when the jets would line up in 5 wide sets, and pennington would dink and dunk us to death, why can't we do some of that? and mix in some runs out of the shot gun set. we just can't line up in I-formation every 1st and 2nd down.
 
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