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This Sunday against the Panthers I think the best way to take advantage of their good blitzing LB'rs is to spread them out. What I mean by this is the weak point of their D seems to me to be the secondary. We should use a lot of spread 4 wide formations. If they want to blitz, every play should have a different "hot route receiver" on a quick out or slant, something that requires a 2 to 3 step drop.

The reason I beleive this is that will force them in to a nickle or dime D and will affectively take the Linebackers out of the play. Now a 3 wr set could constist of Ronnie, Morris, or Minor in the backfield and Mcmike or ronnie in a slot type position. a wr bunch would be a perfect type formation, but don't have mcmike close to the O-line. That will force his cover man to either be a corner, or a LB. If the Lb is covering him, he obviously can't be blitzing. This will force Gus to make a lot of reads at the line to determine the D he is facing. If they play man it creates great mis-matches for us if they are playing a zone coverage than call a wr screen and motion ronnie and Mcmike to a bunch with Boston out wide and chambers on the other side. Throw a screen to Boston and you have Ronnie and Mcmike to block for the screen.

Running plays would require the lead blocker to be in motion, we could even use evens or Diamond lined up in the slot initially, it will help Gus read the D kinda like Manning does and decide based on the coverage shown the best play to run.

Sorry kinda legnthy, but I think this would beat their D pretty bad.

Any thoughts?
 
Agreed. If we play out of standard formations we will leave ourselves outmanned at several positional one to one matchups. But if we come in with 3, 4 or even five receiver sets I think we level the playing field somewhat
 
ajajaj said:
This Sunday against the Panthers I think the best way to take advantage of their good blitzing LB'rs is to spread them out. What I mean by this is the weak point of their D seems to me to be the secondary. We should use a lot of spread 4 wide formations. If they want to blitz, every play should have a different "hot route receiver" on a quick out or slant, something that requires a 2 to 3 step drop.

The reason I beleive this is that will force them in to a nickle or dime D and will affectively take the Linebackers out of the play. Now a 3 wr set could constist of Ronnie, Morris, or Minor in the backfield and Mcmike or ronnie in a slot type position. a wr bunch would be a perfect type formation, but don't have mcmike close to the O-line. That will force his cover man to either be a corner, or a LB. If the Lb is covering him, he obviously can't be blitzing. This will force Gus to make a lot of reads at the line to determine the D he is facing. If they play man it creates great mis-matches for us if they are playing a zone coverage than call a wr screen and motion ronnie and Mcmike to a bunch with Boston out wide and chambers on the other side. Throw a screen to Boston and you have Ronnie and Mcmike to block for the screen.

Running plays would require the lead blocker to be in motion, we could even use evens or Diamond lined up in the slot initially, it will help Gus read the D kinda like Manning does and decide based on the coverage shown the best play to run.

Sorry kinda legnthy, but I think this would beat their D pretty bad.

Any thoughts?
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I'm not as familiar with the Panthers D as you are but your post makes a lot of sense to me. I hope we do see a lot of looks and variations agains Carolina. I felt like that was the biggest difference in the first 2 games. We don't really have the horsepower yet to just line up and blow people away. We need to create mismatches as you suggested. Good post, I enoyed it.
 
wow, that sounded about a clear as mud.

basically use our bigger personel te, rb, and fb's in spread formations. Since ronnie won't run up the middle anyway design plays to the outside.

For example a formation could be:

wide left chambers, slot left ronnie brown Minor or morris in the backfield, on the right side mcmike split wide right and boston or booker in the slot. we can then motion mkmike, or Ronnie and that should tell gus what the coverage is.

He can then change an assignment or two at the line and we could have a very unpredictable and potent offense.
 
What about putting Chambers, Booker, Boston, Welker and Brown on the field spread out periodically
 
i agree we need to find some quick plays.

i also think we to get ronnie in space to create something. he isnt a pass catching threat right now, so im pretty sure he could get open
 
The hot route receiver is a brillant idea, not only because we'll get blitzed alot, but simply because their d-line is alot better than our o-line. Putting people in motion might help Gus read the defense too. All and all, an excellent plan.

I wouldn't be too surprised to see a couple of reverses this game. Carolina will be extremely aggressive, and might over-pursue at times. Seeing Boston and Brown through a couple lead blocks on a reverse would make my day
 
they need to throw in the fake reverse a couple times before, cause the jets didnt look surprised, even though chambers got the first down
 
Just remember that in turns of running hot routes, especially if they are slants, the Panthers are a dangerous defense to do that against in that they often have their linemen drop back in pass catching lanes
 
ajajaj said:
This Sunday against the Panthers I think the best way to take advantage of their good blitzing LB'rs is to spread them out. What I mean by this is the weak point of their D seems to me to be the secondary. We should use a lot of spread 4 wide formations. If they want to blitz, every play should have a different "hot route receiver" on a quick out or slant, something that requires a 2 to 3 step drop.

The reason I beleive this is that will force them in to a nickle or dime D and will affectively take the Linebackers out of the play. Now a 3 wr set could constist of Ronnie, Morris, or Minor in the backfield and Mcmike or ronnie in a slot type position. a wr bunch would be a perfect type formation, but don't have mcmike close to the O-line. That will force his cover man to either be a corner, or a LB. If the Lb is covering him, he obviously can't be blitzing. This will force Gus to make a lot of reads at the line to determine the D he is facing. If they play man it creates great mis-matches for us if they are playing a zone coverage than call a wr screen and motion ronnie and Mcmike to a bunch with Boston out wide and chambers on the other side. Throw a screen to Boston and you have Ronnie and Mcmike to block for the screen.

Running plays would require the lead blocker to be in motion, we could even use evens or Diamond lined up in the slot initially, it will help Gus read the D kinda like Manning does and decide based on the coverage shown the best play to run.

Sorry kinda legnthy, but I think this would beat their D pretty bad.

Any thoughts?
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Good post!
 
adamprez2003 said:
What about putting Chambers, Booker, Boston, Welker and Brown on the field spread out periodically
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yeah, that too. Just spread them out, if they are spread out they can only disguise a blitz so well, and he will almost have to know where it is coming from the majority of the time.
 
this is very similare to what Don SHula had marino do, very affective if you have some experience at QB, and not comparing marino and Gus by any means, but Gus has seen enough around the league his experience is one thing about him I really like. Plus who in this league would expect an offense like that from us?

GOD I WANT TO E-MAIL THIS THREAD TO LINEHAN:)
 
Pocoloco said:
The hot route receiver is a brillant idea, not only because we'll get blitzed alot, but simply because their d-line is alot better than our o-line. Putting people in motion might help Gus read the defense too. All and all, an excellent plan.

I wouldn't be too surprised to see a couple of reverses this game. Carolina will be extremely aggressive, and might over-pursue at times. Seeing Boston and Brown through a couple lead blocks on a reverse would make my day
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ajajaj said:
This Sunday against the Panthers I think the best way to take advantage of their good blitzing LB'rs is to spread them out. What I mean by this is the weak point of their D seems to me to be the secondary. We should use a lot of spread 4 wide formations. If they want to blitz, every play should have a different "hot route receiver" on a quick out or slant, something that requires a 2 to 3 step drop.

The reason I beleive this is that will force them in to a nickle or dime D and will affectively take the Linebackers out of the play. Now a 3 wr set could constist of Ronnie, Morris, or Minor in the backfield and Mcmike or ronnie in a slot type position. a wr bunch would be a perfect type formation, but don't have mcmike close to the O-line. That will force his cover man to either be a corner, or a LB. If the Lb is covering him, he obviously can't be blitzing. This will force Gus to make a lot of reads at the line to determine the D he is facing. If they play man it creates great mis-matches for us if they are playing a zone coverage than call a wr screen and motion ronnie and Mcmike to a bunch with Boston out wide and chambers on the other side. Throw a screen to Boston and you have Ronnie and Mcmike to block for the screen.

Running plays would require the lead blocker to be in motion, we could even use evens or Diamond lined up in the slot initially, it will help Gus read the D kinda like Manning does and decide based on the coverage shown the best play to run.

Sorry kinda legnthy, but I think this would beat their D pretty bad.

Any thoughts?
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A well thought out and written post.....Thanks
 
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