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Not to detract from Chambers' great year, but it seemed at times this year that if a ball was underthrown, he didn't come back to it or make a play on it to prevent it from being picked off at times.

I just saw an extremely egregious example of this in Nublar's EXCELLENT highlight film of the Bills game (thanks bud). The ball was extremely underthrown by Gus and Chambers just sat there watching it, while a Bills corner came in and swiped it from him.

I seem to remember him doing this more often this year. Did anybody else notice that?

I'm not knocking him, I think he had a great year...just one aspect of his game I wish he'd refine next year.
 
One of CC's faults.

Never mind, becasue he made the Pro Bowl.

Never mind him chokeing cost us the win that may've meant the playoffs.

It's best you just be quiet abour CCs faults and just concentrate on his greatness.
Nobody wants to hear about Chambers abject failures this year.

I, like you, am all for Chambers, but, I'm not happy with his overall performance this year.

He's got all the talent in the world. He's been in the NFL for long enough to iron out the rough spots, but, he hasn't.

That said, I hope another year with this GREAT staff will strighten him out. He had a career year......The second half really made the difference, so, I'm anxious to see him out of the blocks next year. Next year will tell if he can turn the corner.
 
RobFins2005 said:
Not to detract from Chambers' great year, but it seemed at times this year that if a ball was underthrown, he didn't come back to it or make a play on it to prevent it from being picked off at times.

I just saw an extremely egregious example of this in Nublar's EXCELLENT highlight film of the Bills game (thanks bud). The ball was extremely underthrown by Gus and Chambers just sat there watching it, while a Bills corner came in and swiped it from him.

I seem to remember him doing this more often this year. Did anybody else notice that?

I'm not knocking him, I think he had a great year...just one aspect of his game I wish he'd refine next year.

Watch out, the Association for the Protection and Coddling of Chris Chambers is gonna eat you alive now. :rolleyes:

Chambers has always had this problem, even back to college. Coming out, he was described as extremely athletic and talented, but with a tendency to lapses of focus and concentration. He showed no signs of getting any better of that ailment in his first 4 1/2 years as a pro, until a light of some kind went on for him mid-2005, and he has started to improve. But he still has those bad habits.

What's encouraging is that he did manage to overcome his mental/psych issue with drops this season, so maybe there's hope that he can be coached to be more aggressive to the ball by the start of next season. If he does, there will be no stopping the kid, because he is as talented as they come. It would be nice to see him elevate that part of his game as he elevated it regarding drops.
 
GoonBoss, you're not alone bro. I myself feel the same way, but Chambers made a vast improvement in his game in the 2nd half of the season.
 
RobFins2005 said:
Not to detract from Chambers' great year, but it seemed at times this year that if a ball was underthrown, he didn't come back to it or make a play on it to prevent it from being picked off at times.

I just saw an extremely egregious example of this in Nublar's EXCELLENT highlight film of the Bills game (thanks bud). The ball was extremely underthrown by Gus and Chambers just sat there watching it, while a Bills corner came in and swiped it from him.

I seem to remember him doing this more often this year. Did anybody else notice that?

I'm not knocking him, I think he had a great year...just one aspect of his game I wish he'd refine next year.



I noticed that every since his first year with the fins he didnt play hard but i think that is about to change I think he finally has confidence in his coachs. Buying their system anyway and he finally has a QB that can trow it far enough.
 
I really feel after the second Bills game is where he started turning the corner.

The funny thing is, when he dropped an easy completion during Miami's bid at a comeback, my friend and I both lost our tempers and I probably yelled loud enough to scare King Kong at the screen calling out Chambers and I said "boy is he not having a good year this year".

He then comes back and wins the game and my friend and I agree that while he won the game he shouldn't get a free pass (although I gave him one since, well, he did win the game, even though he dropped a bazillion balls on the way).

Since then I've noted a large improvement. He looked more like he did in 2003, where he had almost 1000 yards with a very poor passing game.
 
NaboCane said:
Watch out, the Association for the Protection and Coddling of Chris Chambers is gonna eat you alive now. :rolleyes:

Chambers has always had this problem, even back to college. Coming out, he was described as extremely athletic and talented, but with a tendency to lapses of focus and concentration. He showed no signs of getting any better of that ailment in his first 4 1/2 years as a pro, until a light of some kind went on for him mid-2005, and he has started to improve. But he still has those bad habits.

What's encouraging is that he did manage to overcome his mental/psych issue with drops this season, so maybe there's hope that he can be coached to be more aggressive to the ball by the start of next season. If he does, there will be no stopping the kid, because he is as talented as they come. It would be nice to see him elevate that part of his game as he elevated it regarding drops.

Heh heh....APCCC?

Yep. You're right. I don't post often, but, my best bud, who's a UW homer and die-hard said; Chambers has all the tools to be an all pro....He'll make every tough catch...But he'll drop every easy one.

Maybe Saban and a GOOD staff will help him out.

You can hardly blame a player for not doing better with our last horrific staff.
 
NaboCane said:
Watch out, the Association for the Protection and Coddling of Chris Chambers is gonna eat you alive now.

Speaking as an Honorary member of the A-PaCC (Patent Pending), we do not eat people alive, we simply have a firm grip on the obvious and are loyally blinded by Chambers. T-Shirt design pending.
 
Super Teacher said:
Speaking as an Honorary member of the A-PaCC (Patent Pending), we do not eat people alive, we simply have a firm grip on the obvious and are loyally blinded by Chambers. T-Shirt design pending.

:lol:
 
GoonBoss said:
Heh heh....APCCC?

Yep. You're right. I don't post often, but, my best bud, who's a UW homer and die-hard said; Chambers has all the tools to be an all pro....He'll make every tough catch...But he'll drop every easy one.

Maybe Saban and a GOOD staff will help him out.

You can hardly blame a player for not doing better with our last horrific staff.

I'll grant you that the coaching overall has been horrible until this year; but on the other hand, Jerry Sullivan was widely considered an excellent WR coach...so maybe Chambers just didn't have any chemistry with him.
 
NaboCane said:
I'll grant you that the coaching overall has been horrible until this year; but on the other hand, Jerry Sullivan was widely considered an excellent WR coach...so maybe Chambers just didn't have any chemistry with him.

Next year will tell.

Chamber's last half this year kept me from really hammering on him. He didn't shake every demon, but, did well enough.

Single team coaches can help, but, it's the head coach that sets the tone an tenor for a team.

We have a coach that knows his buttocks from a hole in the ground now, so, we'll see.
 
GoonBoss said:
One of CC's faults.

Never mind, becasue he made the Pro Bowl.

Never mind him chokeing cost us the win that may've meant the playoffs.

It's best you just be quiet abour CCs faults and just concentrate on his greatness.
Nobody wants to hear about Chambers abject failures this year.

I, like you, am all for Chambers, but, I'm not happy with his overall performance this year.

He's got all the talent in the world. He's been in the NFL for long enough to iron out the rough spots, but, he hasn't.

That said, I hope another year with this GREAT staff will strighten him out. He had a career year......The second half really made the difference, so, I'm anxious to see him out of the blocks next year. Next year will tell if he can turn the corner.


Before we throw CC under the bus, if you looked more closely at that play, you'd have seen that he didn't have time to comeback to that ball because it was sooooo far underthrown. He was down to near the goal line when he had to come back to nearly the 20...

Now, is CC perfect..no, but I surely wasn't dissapointed in his game as much as I was dissapointed in our overall QB play. Gus, at times particularly in the first 10 games was so far off on his throws, either too short or too long, or on the inside shoulder instead of the outside shoulder, etc...most of his passes we off target. Few were 'in stride' (like the Booker TD pass this week).

Now I realize not every pass can be perfectly placed, but if you really looked at most of the actual receptions by our recievers this year, they had to alter their routes and contort their bodies just to make a catch. I'll also admit that Gus did get somewhat better later in the season or there was some kind of adjustment made by Linehan to aid in his accuracy, but overall he physically played very poor. Booker and RM had the same problems. We all knew RM was very frustrated this season. In the first half of the season because Gus couldn't hit the waves on the beach ( to coin a phrase, thanks Danny) and in the second half because he was kept in to block so much.

Our recievers, all of them, did not help Gus as much as they should either. We, again, had way too many dropped balls (I think RM led the way though). CC proved that, even with a subpar QB and under the right system, he can be the guy we all hoped he'd be when he was drafted. Is he a #1 reciever...no I don't think so...I think he's an outstanding #2 guy, but he is still improving. Perhaps Meuller and Saban will work some magic and get us a real NFL starting quality QB next year.

One other thing to bear in mind, is that all of the O (MB, RM, CC, RB, RW, WW) were learning a new system. That could have explained some of the drops in the beginning of the season. Gus has no excuse as he was the one person with the experience. However, he is what he is...a career backup.

CC proved this year that he can be the man...we need to improve his surrounding cast some with better protection and better QBing....
 
LarryFinFan said:
Before we throw CC under the bus, if you looked more closely at that play, you'd have seen that he didn't have time to comeback to that ball because it was sooooo far underthrown. He was down to near the goal line when he had to come back to nearly the 20

I think we're talking about two different plays. Chambers was at about the 30 when this ball was thrown and he clearly sees the ball is underthrown and makes a very half-arsed attempt at coming back to it and the Bills defender swipes right by him as if somebody had set a basketball-esque pick on him.
 
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