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Shouright

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Of course we're heading into the offseason, so one of the most popular things to do around here is speculate about how the team will change during it.

Although it's fun to float ideas about who will be here and who will be gone (I've started threads about it too), I think it may be better to maintain the status quo with this team by and large.

In my mind there are two very important reasons for doing this:


1) After the Cleveland game, Saban told the team he'd be using the rest of the season to evaluate players to determine who was Miami Dolphins material. The team responded by winning six games straight.

If, as a coach, you want your words to mean anything to the team in the future, you'd better reward the team by keeping most of the players who met Saban's challenge and were responsible for those six wins, and that appeared to me to be just about everybody.


2) The team is developing good leadership on both sides of the ball as we speak. Say what you want about Frerotte, but he showed good poise and leadership last year, and Randy McMichael and Chris Chambers seemed to me to become bigger leaders on offense than they had been previously (I think McMichael pretty much singlehandedly willed the team to win the second Buffalo game, for example). We already had our leaders on defense -- last year we started to develop some good leadership on offense.

As important as team leadership is IMO, we run the risk of disintegrating our developing leadership by bringing in too many players at a time, especially players who have had prominent roles on other teams (TO, for example).


So yeah, let's have our fun speculating about who will be here next year, but in the end I think it's wise to stick with what we have for the most part.
 
shouright said:
Of course we're heading into the offseason, so one of the most popular things to do around here is speculate about how the team will change during it.

Although it's fun to float ideas about who will be here and who will be gone (I've started threads about it too), I think it may be better to maintain the status quo with this team by and large.

In my mind there are two very important reasons for doing this:


1) After the Cleveland game, Saban told the team he'd be using the rest of the season to evaluate players to determine who was Miami Dolphins material. The team responded by winning six games straight.

If, as a coach, you want your words to mean anything to the team in the future, you'd better reward the team by keeping most of the players who met Saban's challenge and were responsible for those six wins, and that appeared to me to be just about everybody.


2) The team is developing good leadership on both sides of the ball as we speak. Say what you want about Frerotte, but he showed good poise and leadership last year, and Randy McMichael and Chris Chambers seemed to me to become bigger leaders on offense than they had been previously (I think McMichael pretty much singlehandedly willed the team to win the second Buffalo game, for example). We already had our leaders on defense -- last year we started to develop some good leadership on offense.

As important as team leadership is IMO, we run the risk of disintegrating our developing leadership by bringing in too many players at a time, especially players who have had prominent roles on other teams (TO, for example).


So yeah, let's have our fun speculating about who will be here next year, but in the end I think it's wise to stick with what we have for the most part.

I agree that we shouldn't overhaul the team but I don't want to see Frerotte as the starting QB. He won't get us to the SB and if we're not going to the SB, I'd rather give our long-term solution the job this year.
 
I disagree. You always have to look to upgrade and people have blinders on because they finished out the year winning 6 games in row. But they still have to upgrade the roster to become a serious playoff threat. A good example of this is how well the Bills finished in 2004 and everybody was high on them coming into 2005 and then they fell flat on their faces this past year. Every year is its own year. What you do at the end of one year doesn't translate to the next year.
 
All in all I am about as excited about the upcoming offseason and season then I have since the Shula era (maybe when Jimmy first arrived)
I was listening to the Dolphin hour on 790 Cefalo was on and he was just saying we seem to have all the right pieces Saban,Wiedmeier, Mueller the players are rallying around the coach and the system....
I say pick up a lineman or 2 on both sides of the ball, get another corner and either draft a QB who will sit behind Gus till he is ready. If we can get a quality QB in free agency then that's even better, but I think Gus is servicable...
Well see, I am just very excited:dolphins: :jumper: :rawk:
 
finsfanrm said:
All in all I am about as excited about the upcoming offseason and season then I have since the Shula era (maybe when Jimmy first arrived)
I was listening to the Dolphin hour on 790 Cefalo was on and he was just saying we seem to have all the right pieces Saban,Wiedmeier, Mueller the players are rallying around the coach and the system....
I say pick up a lineman or 2 on both sides of the ball, get another corner and either draft a QB who will sit behind Gus till he is ready. If we can get a quality QB in free agency then that's even better, but I think Gus is servicable...
Well see, I am just very excited:dolphins: :jumper: :rawk:

THe only two Qbs worth acquiring not through the draft are Brees and Simms. Brees is a longshot and Simms will probably be max tendered. Ramsey is debatable, but I never really liked him much at all and you have to wonder how bad his development has been impeded down in washington.
 
Ryan1973 said:
I disagree. You always have to look to upgrade and people have blinders on because they finished out the year winning 6 games in row. But they still have to upgrade the roster to become a serious playoff threat. A good example of this is how well the Bills finished in 2004 and everybody was high on them coming into 2005 and then they fell flat on their faces this past year. Every year is its own year. What you do at the end of one year doesn't translate to the next year.

You can't really compare the Jills to the Fins. Because they lost Bledsoe and decided to play Losman who is one of the worst QB's I have seen, they lost Ted Washington which was huge (you need a run stuffer) their o-line was banged up, and they lost the heart and soul of their defense T. Spikes the 2nd week of the season.

We do need to upgrade a few positions of course, but overhaul? I don't think so..:dolphins:
 
Ryan1973 said:
I disagree. You always have to look to upgrade and people have blinders on because they finished out the year winning 6 games in row. But they still have to upgrade the roster to become a serious playoff threat. A good example of this is how well the Bills finished in 2004 and everybody was high on them coming into 2005 and then they fell flat on their faces this past year. Every year is its own year. What you do at the end of one year doesn't translate to the next year.
Right, but did Mularkey challenge the Bills the way Saban did after the Cleveland game? I think Saban has to stay true to that. If he says he's looking for his kind of players and the team responds by not losing again for the rest of the season, don't you have to reward that? You can't say you're looking for your kind of players and then get rid of everyone after they win six games straight.

If you do, then what's the team supposed to think is a "Saban" player? One who loses? I mean you can't just spin these guys' heads around like that.
 
i kinda disagree cuz that comment kinda made the players do a number 2 in their pants and step up BIG TIME>
 
shouright said:
Of course we're heading into the offseason, so one of the most popular things to do around here is speculate about how the team will change during it.

Although it's fun to float ideas about who will be here and who will be gone (I've started threads about it too), I think it may be better to maintain the status quo with this team by and large.

In my mind there are two very important reasons for doing this:


1) After the Cleveland game, Saban told the team he'd be using the rest of the season to evaluate players to determine who was Miami Dolphins material. The team responded by winning six games straight.

If, as a coach, you want your words to mean anything to the team in the future, you'd better reward the team by keeping most of the players who met Saban's challenge and were responsible for those six wins, and that appeared to me to be just about everybody.


2) The team is developing good leadership on both sides of the ball as we speak. Say what you want about Frerotte, but he showed good poise and leadership last year, and Randy McMichael and Chris Chambers seemed to me to become bigger leaders on offense than they had been previously (I think McMichael pretty much singlehandedly willed the team to win the second Buffalo game, for example). We already had our leaders on defense -- last year we started to develop some good leadership on offense.

As important as team leadership is IMO, we run the risk of disintegrating our developing leadership by bringing in too many players at a time, especially players who have had prominent roles on other teams (TO, for example).


So yeah, let's have our fun speculating about who will be here next year, but in the end I think it's wise to stick with what we have for the most part.

WOW... I can't believe I actually agree with you...:eek:

Normally everytime i've conversed with you it's been in an adverse manner.

I couldn't agree more with pretty much every word of your post. IMO very well said and true.:wink:
 
finsfanrm said:
You can't really compare the Jills to the Fins. Because they lost Bledsoe and decided to play Losman who is one of the worst QB's I have seen, they lost Ted Washington which was huge (you need a run stuffer) their o-line was banged up, and they lost the heart and soul of their defense T. Spikes the 2nd week of the season.

We do need to upgrade a few positions of course, but overhaul? I don't think so..:dolphins:

I am not saying they need a complete overhaul, but they can't stay status quo either. You always have to look to upgrade the roster. And I understand the Bills situation, I was just making a point that one year doesn't lead to the next year. The Chargers are another example and you can't use losing players as an excuse for them. They were great in 2004 and so so this past year with basically the same players.
 
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