U-M_all_day
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so how did he look yesterday?
Channing Crowder
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mi2cents
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second or third on plays, following the plays and being involved after-the-fact....and -oh yes...being beat in coverage and very slow to get there.
Disclaimer: I'm not one here to flame players because I'm PO'd we lost.
That said, Crowder, has been for all accounts worthless so far. Understandably it is tough to see someone take over Zach's spot after all these years, but still, trying to be as fair as possible I don't see Crowder too long for this team after this year. For all he tries to do in being a leader via his mouth and jumping around, when it comes down to actual play, he really just doesn't have it. He's a good weak side guy, but I don't see him accepting that position and $$. As for being the "main man", he simply makes bad decisions and overreacts. I've seen him countless times dive into the wrong gap with reckless abandon. Zach may have missed the correct gap once and a while, but he never took himself way out of the play.
It's unfortunate, because I like Crowder's spirit and intentions, he just doesn't have "it"
That said, Crowder, has been for all accounts worthless so far. Understandably it is tough to see someone take over Zach's spot after all these years, but still, trying to be as fair as possible I don't see Crowder too long for this team after this year. For all he tries to do in being a leader via his mouth and jumping around, when it comes down to actual play, he really just doesn't have it. He's a good weak side guy, but I don't see him accepting that position and $$. As for being the "main man", he simply makes bad decisions and overreacts. I've seen him countless times dive into the wrong gap with reckless abandon. Zach may have missed the correct gap once and a while, but he never took himself way out of the play.
It's unfortunate, because I like Crowder's spirit and intentions, he just doesn't have "it"
Dtronic
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Not sure why you think he's second or third on plays. Channing is leading the team in tackles with 18 (6th in the league) and in solo tackles with 15 (4th in the league). Considering teams are passing so much he gets in on a good majority of the run plays. Which yesterday we did pretty well against. The Cards ran for 81 yards on 31 carries, which comes out to 2.6 yards per carry. Crowder can hardly be blamed for our corners and safeties getting beat all day.
middle linebackers should, and will lead their team in tackles. If a CB, S, or DE is...you have a serious problem (yes, even more serious than we already have). Crowder's tackle totals do nothing to show the reality of his play.
He's been our best tackler so far and is toward the top of the league in that category. His coverage skills may not be great but neither were Zachs'. Don't get me wrong. I don't think he's even close to being the player Zach was for us but he's been solid. I know it's going to be hard for people to judge anyone we have at ILB because naturally people are going to compare him to Zach, but Crowder has not been a bust are even a bad player.
I just don't see how he's been that terrible. I guess I'll see it when I rewatch the game but I just haven't noticed him being "worthless". He's not just leading the team in tackles but close to leading the league.
If I had 100 darts in my hand and just started whipping them at the dart board with reckless abandon, I bet I'd have a few bullseyes. If you take all the darts off the board except for the bullseyes, and say, there are 8 of them, are you going to run around to all the dart leagues telling people how I hit 8 bullseyes?
There's dart leagues?
Canadianfishfan
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Very well said. This is something I've noticed about Crowder his entire career. I don't forsee Crowder here next season.
way to try and derail the thread
but yes, just like your age making you naive to the football play, it also makes you naive to how bars work. Most bars have a weekly dart league....Was a joke buddy, lighten up. I said earlier I didn't have the same opinion you do because I just didn't see that watching the game yesterday. I said I'm going to rewatch the game and perhaps I'll see what you're seeing. As for my age. I turn 21 in a couple days so I'll be able to join those dart leagues soon enough. :up:way to try and derail the thread
Crowder has been better that I thought he would be. J. Ferguson is getting pushed around quite a bit, of course he gets doubled every play and the LB's are getting caught in the wash. He makes the tackles he's in position, but on some plays he gets blocked. Grade, for me C+. I'd be surprised if LB is not a priority in the next draft.
I agree with most, but its not hard too. Corwder just isnt that good of a player. Like his energy but the play at LB isnt there. I really had trouble remebering a single play he made yesterday. The guy has trouble in coverage for a fast LB, NEVER gets to the QB when he does blitz and is just not that good of a player after a promisin 1st year. Our LB'ing core needs to be addressed big time in the draft and man, Id love the USC kid. 1st 5 picks should be secondary and LB and get WR in FA since they are such a crapshoot in the draft and take years to develop. Just not guys like Wilford. But back to Crowder, he just shouldnt be a part of this teams future, cause if he is, and at MLB no less, were in trouble...