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Charles Harris Comparison

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It seems that finheaven is split 50/50 on Charles Harris. The half of us that are upset are saying that he's too slow, or that we need to get a 3 down player in the 1st, or he's just situational, among other things. I am not a fan who thinks that everything the Dolphins do is correct and I am not a "I trust this regime more than the last one" fan. I, as a lot of you, really wanted to take a chance on Reuben Foster when he dropped to us. Many of you are upset at not taking Foster as much as it is not liking Harris, which is exactly how I felt after the pick. Foster's medical re-check must have been alarming because there is no way that he would have lasted to pick 29 if not. A healthy Reuben Foster goes in the top 10. For those of you who argue about Harris being a situational player, a counter argument can be made that there is a likelihood of Foster being a 1 contract player or missing significant time each year, which would also make him a part time player. Now, not all of you are upset about it not being Foster because I think the fans who are upset that Forrest Lamp would be a starter from day 1, have a valid argument. Only time will tell whether Lamp turns out to be an impact player. I will say that a guard will potentially play more than a pass rusher but a pass rusher can effect the game on 3 or 4 plays and be just as impactful. A strip/sack is a single play that can easily alter a game. Now, if Miami does not do anything to help the offensive line later in the draft or after June cuts, it will be a potentially different story. Yesterday morning, Haasan Reddick was my player that I really hoped would fall to us but if you told me that we would draft Charles Harris, I would have been happy. I want to make a player comparison to hopefully make some of the upset fans feel a little bit better about the pick.
Charles Harris reminds me of Aldon Smith, and not just because they both went to Missouri. The both had similar production at Mizzou. Smith had 14.5 sack in 2 years and Harris had 18 in 3 years. Both have eerily similar measurables and numbers posted at the combine. The biggest difference being that Smith's arms are 3 inches longer as well as his broad jump and vert are a bit longer and higher, which is a measurement of explosion. Harris's 20 yard shuttle was slightly faster. Now, Smith led the league in sacks over his first 2 years in the NFL with 33.5, 14 and 19.5. If Harris can get 8 and 12 sacks his first 2 seasons, I think most fans would be ok with that production.
Aldon Smith was also considered a situational player because, much like Harris, was not a very good run defender. Even though they are considered situational, they can have a tremendous impact on a game.
I just hope Harris does not have the same off the field problems that Smith had, which I think would be highly unlikely.

I am not trying to look at this situation with rose colored glasses. It would be nice for some of the negativity to not exist. I completely understand being upset, I just want to also show that there is a possibility of upside with this pick.

I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on this.
 
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I will say, I was one of the ones more upset with the "not taking FOSTER" more than I was upset with the pick. I will say, I'm still on the fence with the pick, only for the reason that we are not one player away and we need a lot of holes filled. Taking a player that will not start for this team in the 1st round still gets me fired up a bit. With that said, if Harris ends up being something close to Smith.....I will be a lot happier than I was last night. Great Post by the way.
 
It is what it is....Read he was the best rushing specialist in this draft among Dends....Not so good against the run....Has good technique....Good attitude......On the radio they praise him......But of course they do that about every first rounder every year.......

Look at it this way.....So far this coaching group and scouts are perfect IMO in the first round......Tunsil and parker........Lets hope the trend continues.

I will give it the benefit of the doubt and trust the phin coaches and gaze since they havent messed up yet.

As time passes by and players from this draft develop, we will have a better idea of how good this draft was.
 
Great post. I think you may be right. I too am more mad that they didn't pick Foster, than that they drafted Harris. This guy has been compared to Michael Sam and Aldon Smith, at this point I don't know what to expect.

If they can compliment this pick with the supporting talent in the coming rounds, this pick may have been our best option, and while I think we may still regret this years down the line, I still hope that I am wrong and this guy makes me eat crow big time.
 
watch his videos against good teams like LSU, he did absolutely nothing (even though LSU has a lower-tier OT)
 
It is what it is....Read he was the best rushing specialist in this draft among Dends....Not so good against the run....Has good technique....Good attitude......On the radio they praise him......But of course they do that about every first rounder every year.......

Look at it this way.....So far this coaching group and scouts are perfect IMO in the first round......Tunsil and parker........Lets hope the trend continues.

I will give it the benefit of the doubt and trust the phin coaches and gaze since they havent messed up yet.

As time passes by and players from this draft develop, we will have a better idea of how good this draft was.

Devante Parker???? He is ok at 14, but you need way more more production at that spot.
 
They messed up by passing on Denzel Perryman a few years ago, the Foster drop was expected with the injury/character concerns.

I've seen the Smith comparisons, but I'd say his spin move is better than Smiths imo. He's more of a Shane Ray.
 
I've seen the Melvin Ingram comparisons too. Not seeing that.
 
Thing that makes me ok with the pick is the pretty established fact that he was going to be "their guy" if he was available. They had months to research and decide on who was the top target/priority. There was no waffle or last minute indecision in picking him. Fact of the matter is we HAVE TO trust the diligence and input from a coach who has overall shown us nothing but improvement since coming on board. Let the entire draft play out. He's our pass rusher. Now we need guys who tackle like animals. Linebackers



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I'd be ecstatic with 8 and 12 sacks his first 2 seasons. My comparison off of extremely limited tape watching of harris is Dwight Freeney
 
Devante Parker???? He is ok at 14, but you need way more more production at that spot.

Only if we had a better qb throwing at him.......

If i had to take devante parker all over again in the first round i would.....The only thing that can prevent him from been a superstar is injuries.
 
I'm no scout, but he looks awfully impressive as a pass rusher. In fact, he looks to me like someone who could emerge as the best pass rusher from this class. For a Miami team that struggles to get off the field on third downs (just 33 sacks last year), Harris makes sense. The fact that the team didn't take a trade down speaks to how they feel about Harris. Hopefully the front office is right on this one.

My top two choices (not counting Foster) were Davis and Watt. So it's always a bit disappointing when the team doesn't get who you want. But I like Harris and he may be exactly what this team needs.
 
Great post. I think you may be right. I too am more mad that they didn't pick Foster, than that they drafted Harris. This guy has been compared to Michael Sam and Aldon Smith, at this point I don't know what to expect.

If they can compliment this pick with the supporting talent in the coming rounds, this pick may have been our best option, and while I think we may still regret this years down the line, I still hope that I am wrong and this guy makes me eat crow big time.

The only comparison made to Michael Sam was the uniform. There is no comparison as an edge rusher.
 
Only if we had a better qb throwing at him.......

If i had to take devante parker all over again in the first round i would.....The only thing that can prevent him from been a superstar is injuries.

I don't think you can blame the QB. Injury and work ethic are the key issue
 
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