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Chris Simms on Tua and Kyler and their play in the Dolphins at Cardinals game

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As you may recall Chris Simms rated Tua as the draft's 3rd best QB (behind Burrow and Herbert), and at one time as low as 4th (behind Love). For his pre-draft evaluation he was given a LOT of smack. The other talking heads just repeated common wisdom, but Simms always evaluates things himself and makes his own calls. Once again, Simms pre-draft rankings look better than most pundits. His faith in Herbert was FAR higher than almost any other pundits ... and Herbert is proving Simms right. His lack of absolute love for Tua is an opinion that after the fact many pundits are shifting to co-opt. None of them called that pre-draft.

Another aspect of Chris Simms that I really enjoy is that he states when he is wrong and adjusts his evaluation as the facts show different data. As such, here is Simms owning up to his pre-draft evaluation of Tua and point out that while he is not yet totally convinced, he may have undervalued Tua's ability. Enjoyable watch (if a podcast can ever be an enjoyable watch), with lots of good analysis and a little bit of eating crow.

Enjoy.

 
Good post but still lots of love for the Cards
 
Geordie said:
Tua was the best QB prospect in this last draft, anyone that put him as number 3 is not someone I would waste a moment on, tbh.
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^^THIS.

Tua was universally considered the #1 prospect pre-injury. That's precisely why "Tank 4 Tua" became a thing.

It took the injury and Burrow's super season to change that.

And even then there were many pundits that claimed Tua would still be their #1 QB if they knew for certain the injury wouldn't be a concern going forward.
 
Still has Tua in the middle 20's, I disagree
1. Mahomes
2. Wilson
3. Rogers
4. Brees
5. Watson
6. Burrows
7. Big Ben
8. Matt Ryans
9. Brady
10. Herbert
11. Josh Allen
12. Lamar Jackson
13. Murray
14. Tanny (not for long)
15. Carr
16. Rivers?
17. Stafford?
18. Bridgewater?
19. Tua


He is at least top 20, maybe top 15 right now.
 
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Honestly, it really was spot on analysis by Simms. Kyler was clearly the more impressive qb yesterday but he is also being asked to due way more than Tua was. Tua was given a bit more on his plate this week but looked great at what he was asked to do. We simply aren't going to be asking to have Tua drop back 40 times a game from the pocket and sling it down field. The thing I love about Tua is his ball placement, sometimes people say that he doesn't have a strong arm because he doesn't always rocket it in there. It is not the case at all, he has this ability to not only put the ball in the right spot consistently, but he is also able to play with the trajectory of the ball without effecting accuracy to give the wide receiver an easier chance to catch it.

Tua is going to be such a joy, this is just the beginning folks. Wait till we actually get to open up the play book with this kid.
 
Yessir said:
Chris Simms said Jared Stidham was more talented than Tua. I will eat a hat before I listen to any evaluation from that goofball.
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HAHA.

I’d temporarily forgotten about that.

Yeah, it’s great that he’s coming around a bit now. But stupid ass comments like that seriously challenges credibility.
 
Csonked Out said:
Honestly, it really was spot on analysis by Simms. Kyler was clearly the more impressive qb yesterday
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No, it wasn’t spot on.

Like that other buffoon Skip Bayless, he isn’t at all considering the talent differences between offensive skill players.

Tua has a less than 100% DeVante Parker — who has been hampered by injury all season — and lost the services of Preston Williams. He had almost zero rush attack helping him out. He led a 4th quarter comeback throwing to the likes of Mack Hollins.

Meanwhile Kyler (who I really like A LOT) has DeAndre Hopkins, Larry Fitzgerald, Christian Kirk and a capable rush attack.

Kyler clearly has more explosive and consistent talent surrounding him at the skill positions.

Lastly, Kyler Murray made his 24th start yesterday. Meanwhile Tua made his 2nd. Without the benefit of a full training camp or any preseason games. And less than a year after coming off hip surgery.

Considering all those circumstances, what Tua did yesterday was equally as impressive if not more.
 
I don't rate Simms highly at all, and it's not just because of his pre-draft evaluation of Tua. Not very insightful and about as entertaining as a doorknob.
 
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