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Clearing the deadwood

Carne Asada

Carne Asada

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I think instead of questioning whether it's worth re-signing Wilkins we should be thinking about moving our underperforming players on bad contracts.

How much if at all do you think we can get for X, Jones, Wilson Jr and Ogbah on deals where the taker eats the money?

IMO some teams will hope for bounce-back years from the 3 defensive players and I think there's a good chance we might actually get something back in compensation. We can package Wilson along with one of them also.

I think we can get a 5ths for X and Ogbah at the very least and a 7th for Jones (with the taker eating most the money). Hopefully we can package Wilson with one of them. That would free $53 million and we could basically do anything we want with that type of money.
 
Carne Asada said:
I think instead of questioning whether it's worth re-signing Wilkins we should be thinking about moving our underperforming players on bad contracts.

How much if at all do you think we can get for X, Jones, Wilson Jr and Ogbah on deals where the taker eats the money?

IMO some teams will hope for bounce-back years from the 3 defensive players and I think there's a good chance we might actually get something back in compensation. We can package Wilson along with one of them also.

I think we can get a 5ths for X and Ogbah at the very least and a 7th for Jones (with the taker eating most the money). Hopefully we can package Wilson with one of them. That would free $53 million and we could basically do anything we want with that type of money.
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Why don't we wait until the victory parade is over before we start chewing up the board with off season speculation?
 
The focus needs to remain on maximizing the performance on the field with wins. Miami has potentially its best team in 30 years and yet some FH contributors fixate on who we can knife off the team. Xavien Howard is an important part of the Defense who has excelled since he was drafted. Let's just see how he plays for the rest of the season rather than deriving pleasure in speculating how to get rid of him.
If Byron Jones ever gets fully healthy, he improves the DBs as soon as he's on the field (and he is a good complement to X). There will be time to clear deadwood, but now is the time to optimize performance.
 
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cullenbigcstill said:
Not sure if Byron comes back he starts due to Kader Kohou IS our best corner and its not even close, he would be a massive upgrade in the slot though, but Achilles injuries are concerning for all athletes. Don't expect the same athlete.
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Agree, but KK hasn't faced a top QB or O yet.
 
I think Ogbah was bothered by a back injury most of the season; but tried to play through it. It appearently affected his play. The injury in the game vs Cleveland was a different injury that cost him the remaining part of the season. Think he deserves a pass and another chance to play in Miami. Hopefully he comes back in 2023 and plays more like 2020 and 2021?

Unfortunately the Deadwood might be two guys on the offensive line, in Austin Jackson and Eichenberg. They've done nothing to indicate they can make a difference. Whereas their replacements have helped take the line to another level.

Defensively the only deadwood might be the contract of Byron Jones? That issue is going to be a huge decision by Grier this coming off season. Other than these three players, I'm hopeful, Miami re-signs, Needham, Van Ginkle and Ingram? We'll see?
 
Fin-Loco said:
Why don't we wait until the victory parade is over before we start chewing up the board with off season speculation?
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Well it is a bye week. Plus as Dolphins fans are brains are not use to being in the playoffs at this point in the year. Normally we would be saying well maybe this kid will improve and help next year.
 
dolfan91 said:
I think Ogbah was bothered by a back injury most of the season; but tried to play through it. It appearently affected his play. The injury in the game vs Cleveland was a different injury that cost him the remaining part of the season. Think he deserves a pass and another chance to play in Miami. Hopefully he comes back in 2023 and plays more like 2020 and 2021?

Unfortunately the Deadwood might be two guys on the offensive line, in Austin Jackson and Eichenberg. They've done nothing to indicate they can make a difference. Whereas their replacements have helped take the line to another level.

Defensively the only deadwood might be the contract of Byron Jones? That issue is going to be a huge decision by Grier this coming off season. Other than these three players, I'm hopeful, Miami re-signs, Needham, Van Ginkle and Ingram? We'll see?
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I still have hope for Jackson. He actually looked decent as a rookie until he got hurt. Then last year he got mind ****ed by the coaching staff. They had he playing LT,RT,RG and part time sumo wrestler as well. Plus if he only becomes a plus backup swing guy he doesn't kill the cap as he is on a rookie deal.
 
The concerns about our cap situation are overblown. We don’t need to unload anyone. Our cap is fine for next year, and Byron Jones, Ogbah, and Cedric Wilson will all be getting cut before 2024 if not sooner. That will clear out a ton of cap space before future deals for Tua, Wilkins, and others start kicking in. Keeping good players is not nearly as difficult as finding them.

For 2023, we’re going to have to let Gesicki walk, and we’re going to have to restructure Tyreek and/or Armstead which isn’t a problem since we aren’t going to want out of those contracts any time soon.

Other than that, we’re golden. All we need to do this off-season is re-sign some low level role players (Jeff Wilson, Mostert, Trent Sherfield, Brandon Shell, maybe Needham/Ingram/Van Ginkel) and add a tight end in free agency. None of that is going to be expensive.
 
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