Closer look at the Pat White pick.

[FinsFan24]

Make no mistake about it, Pat White's immediate impact on this team will be in the Wildcat. That is why we drafted him, plain and simple. But the Trifecta's intentions with this gifted athlete do go deeper than that, much deeper.

He will get a lot of very important and much needed game experience through the innovative formation, so he will have plenty of time to get used to the speed of the game. He has a great teacher in Chad Pennington who will show him how to be a great leader, student of the game, and just an overall great NFL player. Also, he has, and provides, some great competition for Chad Henne. Henne and White will push each other and make each other better QB's just by being there and not having to worry about the pressures of leading the team right away. That way, they can focus purely on improving their game as a whole.

Okay, so he has a few flaws right now. He is not as great of a passer as we thought initially, sailing passes over the fence and all that. He still is a little raw mechanically, but good coaching can fix that. And, as in all rookies, is coming into this whole deal wet behind the ears. White has no idea what its like to play against the big boys on Sunday's.

But all in all, I still believe this was an excellent pick. We didn't draft a player that is going to be our starter this year, or probably next year either. But what we do have is an excellent athlete who has the perfect skill set for the Wildcat and will bring the formation to a new level. And we have insurance, solid depth at the most important position in the game. Sounds to me like Sparano and Co. knew exactly what they were doing when taking this kid in the 2nd round.

So what do you guys think, where else can we utilize this kid?

 

[oasis]

No doubt he can be an excellent contributor IF he embraces his role. That, in my opinion, is the big thing right now. Sure, the Dolphins told him he will have every opportunity to be a regular QB, but he will soon come to understand that he's probably not suited to be a prolific NFL QB. Then the question will be whether he embraces that or whether he continues to try to be something he isn't. As soon as he starts to figure out he's really better suited as a Wildcat QB / Randle El kind of guy, he can shine IMHO and that's when we'll start to see a payoff.

I'd like to believe the kid has a shot to be a "regular" NFL QB (and he has lots of the intangibles as well as a tremendous college career), but at this early timepoint it just doesn't look like it to me. He's not suited size-wise, and if you concede that he'd need to run an option-style offense to be successful, you're essentially choosing between two offensive styles when you make a choice between him and Henne (in other words, how can you compare?). A QB-by-committee approach just doesn't seem likely. So if he keeps trying to be the prototypical every-snap QB, I fear he won't be concentrating as much on the areas where he can contribute more quickly and effectively, namely route-running as a WR, returning kicks/punts, running the option as the QB or HB, etc.

I like the pick, but at this point we don't know much at all. He could be Miami's next franchise player or he could bust big-time. But the intangibles suggest there's something to be excited about...we just don't know what yet.

 

[CO-Gator]

Sorry. I still don't like this pick. I think they should have tried to fill a positional need rather than take a part-time player to stick in a formation that might not even be useful anymore. I don't think this "next level of the Wildcat" that everyone associates White with exists.

 

[dlockz]

Sorry. I still don't like this pick. I think they should have tried to fill a positional need rather than take a part-time player to stick in a formation that might not even be useful anymore. I don't think this "next level of the Wildcat" that everyone associates White with exists.

I did not like the pick either. I guess it could have been worse and we could have drafted Stephen McGee there lol

 

[Bta72dolphins]

i also do not know why i do not like this pick.. The guy was great in college and is a very shy, but good attitude. yeah the ota stuff brother me a little but thats not it... i just see red flags all over this pick.. but i certainly hope i am wrong.

 

[SRM]

i also do not know why i do not like this pick.. The guy was great in college and is a very shy, but good attitude. yeah the ota stuff brother me a little but thats not it... i just see red flags all over this pick.. but i certainly hope i am wrong.

Yeah.. it just seems like we would have been better off with someone like Sintim.. or well, anyone that the FO would have been sure of what to do with them. But who knows, they probably are sure of what they want White to do also. No one knows but them. If there's anything to trust this FO in, it's the draft.

 

[dlockz]

Yeah.. it just seems like we would have been better off with someone like Sintim.. or well, anyone that the FO would have been sure of what to do with them. But who knows, they probably are sure of what they want White to do also. No one knows but them. If there's anything to trust this FO in, it's the draft.

really its not like they did not have a decent amount of misses in Dallas


Jacob Rogers 2nd
Stephen Peterman 3rd
Bruce Thornton 4t
Kevin Burnett 2nd
Bobby Carpenter 1st
Jason Hatcher 3rd not a total bust but far from a great pick
Skyler Green 4th


also lets credit Ireland with
James Marten 3rd
Isiah Stanback 4th



Fasano was not a miss but did not accomplish very much and definately did not live up to a 2nd round pick

So im not going to act like Parcells and Ireland are these gurus that rarely make a draft mistake.

 

[SRM]

really its not like they did not have a decent amount of misses in Dallas


Jacob Rogers 2nd
Stephen Peterman 3rd
Bruce Thornton 4t
Kevin Burnett 2nd
Bobby Carpenter 1st
Jason Hatcher 3rd not a total bust but far from a great pick
Skyler Green 4th


also lets credit Ireland with
James Marten 3rd
Isiah Stanback 4th



Fasano was not a miss but did not accomplish very much and definately did not live up to a 2nd round pick

So im not going to act like Parcells and Ireland are these gurus that rarely make a draft mistake.

Do whatever you want.

 

[seltzer37]

I like the pick and I think all of you will eat your words later Pat's a ball player just wait and see. He on left the state of Alabama because Flordia, Alabama, and Aurburn would not let him play QB look what he did at West Virginia now you say he can't play in the pro's watch.

 

[Bta72dolphins]

I like the pick and I think all of you will eat your words later Pat's a ball player just wait and see. He on left the state of Alabama because Flordia, Alabama, and Aurburn would not let him play QB look what he did at West Virginia now you say he can't play in the pro's watch.

i think this will be the only time i will say this, but i really do hope i eat my words about pat.

 

[Spesh]

Fasano was not a miss but did not accomplish very much and definately did not live up to a 2nd round pick

So im not going to act like Parcells and Ireland are these gurus that rarely make a draft mistake.

While i dont completely disagree with your post, i do want to point out it was difficult for Fasano to get on the field with Witten on the same team. And Fasano had a pretty good year for us here.

I trust this front office more then any other in recent history. And Bill Parcells seems to hit a heck of alot more then he misses.

 

[72champagne]

finally, we can talk about Pat White. i've been waiting ever since the draft.

 

[Spesh]

And for Pat White, i believe its to soon to make any judgement on him or his talents in regards to if he will succeed at this level or not. We havent even had training camp yet. As the original poster said, mechanics and timing can be fixed. And, even if he doesnt beat out Henne for the starter spot he can still be used in exotic formations as well as become trade bait in a few years(example: Matt Shaub situation).

My only problem with the pick actually has little to do with White. I do agree that we should have taken a "need" player at that spot, and was drooling when players started to drop into the second, but i can live with that.
My biggest problem is the fact that we've burned second round picks on QB's for 4 seasons in a row. C-pep, Beck, Henne, and now White. Not to even mention the A.J. Feeley trade in 2004. Second round picks can be the life blood of a franchise, potential starting quality talent without the price check of a first rounder...and we've been churning them out for the same position with little to show for it.

 

[raving]

Very few picks can be fairly evaluated as a value or bust pick this early in the process.

If he works out Parcels and Ireland will get credited probably too much. And if he's a bust the world will be full of "I told you so" proud, chest thumping know it all's (something I know a good deal about myself having done that my share of times in this life).

I like the pick and the player for a couple reasons. It was a bold pick on a bold player.

His highlight reel is stunning, almost surreal. His talents in the college game made him look like an absolute freak.

That said, we all know that college talent does not always translate. If it clicks for him, and of course he stays healthy, then he clearly has a football IQ.

Football is such a unique sport though in that having the ability to conceptualize the game in ever increasingly complex levels does not guarantee a player success in the NFL because the league is so violent. Players must adjust to the speed, which really means players must adjust to the hitting and the intensity at which the game is played by all.

If Pat White makes this transition his value will tremendous. Pat White send defense coordinators into the psychiatric hospital. You now have an offense that is predicated on interchangeable players at various positions.

That's what makes Pat White such a bold pick! He can be groomed to become the centerpiece of an offense that looks to constantly change players and formations to maximally exploit the opposition's weaknesses.

 

[JMarino]

I feel like Chad Henne could be a pro bowler as soon as the 2011 season.
I feel like Pat White, would take another 5 years before he'll have the same "passer skills". When Pat White is in his late 20s, he'll be that player that comes outta nowhere, like it just hit him.