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Commentary: Saban's simple strategy: No reaching in draft

Nice read... A far cry from the days of a one David Wannstedt when he would trade the farm for a position of need.
 
I remember DWs' mentor taking sawed-off RB out of UF. Everybody thought it was a huge reach.
Ever hear of this RB...Emmit Smith or something like that:tongue: .

The point is not every player is a universal fit. One teams reach is another value pick.
 
I'm a huge advocate of BPA over need. That's why all the pre-draft mocks are weird. If a team goes for BPA, their pick is contingent on the picks that go before them.

All mocks I've seen have us picking a DB or WR. But if we go BPA, then that's not necessarily gonna happen.
 
What is the deal with that writer calling it the "Wunderlich" test?

Are we in Germany now? ;)

The company is called Wonderlic.Inc.
 
i don't buy into that at all.

lets face it, RONNIE BROWN was a real stretch at the #2
overall pic. plus the insane money he got?

all this for a guy who wasn't the featured back on his
college team.

BIG TIME REACH!!

and, i like him, he showed "flashes" , but he still has LOTS
to prove and ricky was still the better back last year, even
after a year off and losing 30 lbs.

time will tell. for him to be worth the pic and the money, he
will have to have a 2,000 yd season sooner rather than later and
be making a whole lotta game changing plays [not fumbling them].

now, he could very well get us 1200-1300 yds a year on the ground
and another 600 or so recieving which will definately get the fins
where they want to go, but not worth #2 over all, plus that
guarenteed money!

saban reached, period! and will again! thats how you find talent.

but hopefully not that much again. way over payed for brown.
 
Redneck Friend said:
i don't buy into that at all.

lets face it, RONNIE BROWN was a real stretch at the #2
overall pic. plus the insane money he got?

all this for a guy who wasn't the featured back on his
college team.

BIG TIME REACH!!

and, i like him, he showed "flashes" , but he still has LOTS
to prove and ricky was still the better back last year, even
after a year off and losing 30 lbs.

time will tell. for him to be worth the pic and the money, he
will have to have a 2,000 yd season sooner rather than later and
be making a whole lotta game changing plays [not fumbling them].

now, he could very well get us 1200-1300 yds a year on the ground
and another 600 or so recieving which will definately get the fins
where they want to go, but not worth #2 over all, plus that
guarenteed money!

saban reached, period! and will again! thats how you find talent.

but hopefully not that much again. way over payed for brown.
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:sidelol:
 
If the standard for "non-reaching" for a RB is the 3rd best rushing total in NFL history within 2-5 years, I wouldn't want to be a GM who passed over such prodigious NFL talents like Aaron Rodgers.
 
Redneck Friend said:
i don't buy into that at all.

lets face it, RONNIE BROWN was a real stretch at the #2
overall pic. plus the insane money he got?

all this for a guy who wasn't the featured back on his
college team.

BIG TIME REACH!!

and, i like him, he showed "flashes" , but he still has LOTS
to prove and ricky was still the better back last year, even
after a year off and losing 30 lbs.

time will tell. for him to be worth the pic and the money, he
will have to have a 2,000 yd season sooner rather than later and
be making a whole lotta game changing plays [not fumbling them].

now, he could very well get us 1200-1300 yds a year on the ground
and another 600 or so recieving which will definately get the fins
where they want to go, but not worth #2 over all, plus that
guarenteed money!

saban reached, period! and will again! thats how you find talent.

but hopefully not that much again. way over payed for brown.
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Hmmm, considering last years draft does not have near the talent of this one, we were in a tuff spot. Impossible to trade down last year or we would have, and Brown was best available on everybody's list and also filled a glaring need. Now in Brown what did we get, quite possibly the best pass receiving back and blocker in the draft, not to mention a very tuff runner, and I like him over Cadillac and Benson. And why did we give him so much money, hmmm he was the second overall pick, thats how it goes. I don't think Saban reached at all, I think he took BPA and I am extremely excited of the potential of having one of the games best "overall backs" (I think Edgerrin James holds this title right now) within the next 2 or 3 years. Brown definetly didn't dissappoint considering the line problems early in the year and the splittin of carries. With all that being said, alot is going to be expected of him this year, especially if Ricky goes down, so like everything else we will see.
 
Redneck Friend said:
i don't buy into that at all.

lets face it, RONNIE BROWN was a real stretch at the #2
overall pic. plus the insane money he got?

all this for a guy who wasn't the featured back on his
college team.

BIG TIME REACH!!

and, i like him, he showed "flashes" , but he still has LOTS
to prove and ricky was still the better back last year, even
after a year off and losing 30 lbs.

time will tell. for him to be worth the pic and the money, he
will have to have a 2,000 yd season sooner rather than later and
be making a whole lotta game changing plays [not fumbling them].

now, he could very well get us 1200-1300 yds a year on the ground
and another 600 or so recieving which will definately get the fins
where they want to go, but not worth #2 over all, plus that
guarenteed money!

saban reached, period! and will again! thats how you find talent.

but hopefully not that much again. way over payed for brown.
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You either drunk or don't know nothing about football. :shakeno:
 
You either drunk or don't know nothing about football.
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typical imature comment. when a guy is young and has no real
thought or knowledge of the game or how the draft REALLY
works, this is always what these types post.

and i think you meant "your drunk" not "you drunk" right smart
guy?

yes, ronnie can block a bit. but tell me one coach, player,
etc.... who says he IS the best blocker in the nfl at his
position?

and EVERYONE missed what i said in the post. he might
back up those numbers and lagitamise his spot by
running for big numbers every year and catching a bunch
of passes.

everyone raves on how big a catcher he is but in a linehan
offense that throws and throws, ronnie wasn't getting the
call alot was he?

tell me which coach, player, g.m. etc.... says he IS the best
pass catcher in the nfl right now at his position?

and guys are talking "we had a need"..... if anyone actually
followed the draft and the guys who are draft "athorities"
like gm's and so forth, the successful ones all say right off
the bat, the worst mistake you can make in the draft is
taking a so called need high in the draft, expecially if
there are ANY questions about his game.

you think right now there is no one in the nfl who can run and catch
and block better than ronnie? and who were not taken 2nd overall?

like i said, time will tell. but as of now, it was a reach for a "need"
and we will see if sabans reach pans out.

i am hoping he will!!!
 
there were lots of "needs" last year so just about any other pick according to you would have been a reach. what would you have done with the #2 pick? I am very happy about what our team did. and you cant compare ronnie to veterans of this game. of course he isnt the best blocker or catcher.... YET! i see where you are coming from but its still too early to make your argument.
 
considering everyone considered brown worthy of the #2 pick in the draft, it wasn't a reach. a reach is determined by the overall value perceived by the entire league.

and of COURSE ricky williams was the better runningback last year. you mean to tell me a two-time pro bowler and all-pro runningback is better than a rookie? no way!
 
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