Concerned About McMichael

[Shouright]

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/dolphins/content/sports/epaper/2005/10/16/a8b_PBP_STODA_1016.html

Read that article and tell me you aren't concerned about having just paid a guy a long-term, multi-million-dollar contract who has that kind of attitude. I was concerned about McMichael's attitude BEFORE the contract -- now I'm doubly concerned.

I know he's a great player, but he doesn't seem to be the kind of guy Saban would use as a cornerstone in developing the character he wants this team to have. So why the contract now? Why not see what you get from him the rest of the year (or at least most of the year) first?

With McMichael's past (dancing with cheerleaders during a game, key fumbles, off-the-field problems), I thought the contract was pretty hasty. I mean this guy could self-destruct at some point.

 

[muscle979]

He's a playmaker, it's worth the risk. It probably would have been more expensive to wait until later in the season as well.

 

[finfan54]

How is Mcmicheals attitude any different than say........Terrell owens? Or say, Chad Johnson? Who was crying the other day for crying out loud? How bout the whole baltimore ravens defensive squad? Saban would not have given mcmicheal a contract if the issue was not resolved on the former and the later is just ado about nothing! The NFL is getting out of hand with their bias with the refs. Mcmike is paying his fine, which is a crap fine if you ask me.

 

[Shouright]

How is Mcmicheals attitude any different than say........Terrell owens? Or say, Chad Johnson? Who was crying the other day for crying out loud? How bout the whole baltimore ravens defensive squad? Saban would not have given mcmicheal a contract if the issue was not resolved on the former and the later is just ado about nothing! The NFL is getting out of hand with their bias with the refs. Mcmike is paying his fine, which is a crap fine if you ask me.

Yeah but the play obviously hurt us in the game, and he doesn't seem to want to acknowledge that. Why not?

And I don't think Saban would want the TOs and Chad Johnsons of the world on his team. I think he'd want the Marvin Harrisons and Jerry Rices.

 

[finfan54]

Yeah but the play obviously hurt us in the game, and he doesn't seem to want to acknowledge that. Why not?

And I don't think Saban would want the TOs and Chad Johnsons of the world on his team. I think he'd want the Marvin Harrisons and Jerry Rices.

What constitutes him not acknowledging it? He said, I understand why they threw the flag, but I have seen and done much worse and no flag was thrown. So he is acknowledging it by paying his fine and moving on. I dont think last weeks play was really anything to worry about. In fact, i think the league is going to start facing reprecussions for their outrageious "go by the book" referreeing for one team, and forget about the other.

 

[finfan54]

Yeah but the play obviously hurt us in the game, and he doesn't seem to want to acknowledge that. Why not?

And I don't think Saban would want the TOs and Chad Johnsons of the world on his team. I think he'd want the Marvin Harrisons and Jerry Rices.

Then why did he sign him?

 

[Shouright]

What constitutes him not acknowledging it? He said, I understand why they threw the flag, but I have seen and done much worse and no flag was thrown. So he is acknowledging it by paying his fine and moving on. I dont think last weeks play was really anything to worry about. In fact, i think the league is going to start facing reprecussions for their outrageious "go by the book" referreeing for one team, and forget about the other.

Yeah but that's what you talk about when the play doesn't hurt you much. When the play damn near decides the game, you talk about THAT.

 

[Shouright]

Then why did he sign him?

Good question -- I thought it was a little hasty myself. I think sometimes these guys NEED the pressure of a contract year to add key qualities to their game. Spielman bailed Chambers out during his contract year before he could become a truly elite WR (no guarantee he would have, but we sure took the pressure away didn't we?). Now McMichael may have been bailed out before he could add some character.

 

[jbond]

not really concerned. the article was slanted. if i only talked about the negative stuff from ANYONE'S life....albeit McMichael, the president, some mayor....it will of course look bad. Sounds like the reporter has it in for mcmike and is taking his words out of context after the last game to suit his writing objective.....but that's just my take on it, lol something else besides penalities to make a big deal out of.

 

[finfan54]

Yeah but that's what you talk about when the play doesn't hurt you much. When the play damn near decides the game, you talk about THAT.

What decided the game was Ronnie fumbling. Which is also questionable. What decided the game was a lot of mistakes. None of which can be pointed to Mcmicheal who made a play to put us in the game. I mean, if you are really worried about it, then why dont you worry as well about ronnie fumbles, or penalties, or Gus' INT's or any other factor that contributed to the loss? Because it is expediant to blame Mcmicheal for something that seems real lax on any kind of level with what is transpiring with other players who are hitting refs and such, which was my original point.

 

[Shouright]

What decided the game was Ronnie fumbling. Which is also questionable. What decided the game was a lot of mistakes. None of which can be pointed to Mcmicheal who made a play to put us in the game. I mean, if you are really worried about it, then why dont you worry as well about ronnie fumbles, or penalties, or Gus' INT's or any other factor that contributed to the loss? Because it is expediant to blame Mcmicheal for something that seems real lax on any kind of level with what is transpiring with other players who are hitting refs and such, which was my original point.

I'm not worried about the other players' stuff because those players are pointing their fingers at themselves and acknowledging their mistakes and how they hurt the team, which shows character. McMichael isn't, which doesn't, and he just got a big-time contract? He oughta be doing it MORE so than them. I mean the team just showed its allegiance to YOU, so why can't you show some allegiance to IT? Again, he's a great player, and he contributes to the team that way, but that says nothing about character.

 

[finfan54]

I'm not worried about the other players' stuff because those players are pointing their fingers at themselves and acknowledging their mistakes and how they hurt the team, which shows character. McMichael isn't, which doesn't, and he just got a big-time contract? He oughta be doing it MORE so than them. I mean the team just showed its allegiance to YOU, so why can't you show some allegiance to IT? Again, he's a great player, and he contributes to the team that way, but that says nothing about character.

your first sentence kind of proves my point. The other players "stuff" was much more lethal a matter than say, pointing the football at someone while scoring a TD. Im sure that if Tom Brady did that the way Mcmicheal did it, it would have never been called. The refs are biased and this is the way that they get back at the backlash that they are getting. Then the media jumps on it to point out the "bad". Then people like you pile on.

bottom line: I am not worried. Go ahead and worry.

 

[A Wing Pilot]

My vote goes for this reporter trying to stir the pot. Randy has an attitude that is under control, be he's still got an attitude. Last year when we were in the pisser he tried to hold it together. I thought it was a completely slanted point of view. Nothing more nothing less

 

[JTsackmaster99]

And I don't think Saban would want the TOs and Chad Johnsons of the world on his team.

I think Saban would except Chad Johnson, yes he is a showman when it comes to his touchdown dances but he is an extremely determined person to be the very best in the league, he ven spends two nights a week at the bengals facility rather then going home so he can break down his opposing d-backs for that week, this is also a guy who was crying publically due to a loss which made them 4-1

 

[Shouright]

I think Saban would except Chad Johnson, yes he is a showman when it comes to his touchdown dances but he is an extremely determined person to be the very best in the league, he ven spends two nights a week at the bengals facility rather then going home so he can break down his opposing d-backs for that week, this is also a guy who was crying publically due to a loss which made them 4-1

Yeah I think Johnson is actually fine. TO and Moss would be a better grouping.