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Confirmed-Ferotte is horrible

finfan54 said:
As if Feeley wouldnt have fumbled that? are you kidding me? get real dude.
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He wouldnt have. He didnt fumble on the Urlacher hit and he wouldnt have fumbled there. gus is putrid. Feeley has outplayed him in the preseason games so far. An at least Feeley has the most important attribute- accuracy. I'LL TAKE ACCURACY ANY DAY OVER POCKET PRESENCE AND "FEEL"
 
adamprez2003 said:
He wouldnt have. He didnt fumble on the Urlacher hit and he wouldnt have fumbled there. gus is putrid. Feeley has outplayed him in the preseason games so far. An at least Feeley has the most important attribute- accuracy. I'LL TAKE ACCURACY ANY DAY OVER POCKET PRESENCE AND "FEEL"
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Hence why your name isnt Saban and you dont coach football.
 
Sirspud said:
It's really unfortunate that AJ once again hasn't been given a chance to prove himself capable of the starting job. You'd think Frerotte was the incumbent here. I just don't understand why he doesn't get credit for going 3-3 at the end of last year on a horrible team that had only won one game previously. I wouldn't say he earned the starting job, but he deserves a chance, especially since Gus has played like a rookie in first two starts. Gus should have to beat AJ for the job with superior play, not the other way around.
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Exactly. The starter needs to be unseated. There is no way to make the case for Gus. Every game he underthrows and ocverthrows wide open receivers. Feeley won the competition last night. Saban should name him starter for week 1
 
adamprez2003 said:
He wouldnt have. He didnt fumble on the Urlacher hit and he wouldnt have fumbled there. gus is putrid. Feeley has outplayed him in the preseason games so far. An at least Feeley has the most important attribute- accuracy. I'LL TAKE ACCURACY ANY DAY OVER POCKET PRESENCE AND "FEEL"
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Frerotte's pocket presence was pretty shoddy, AJ outplayed him there as well. He avoided some blitzers that he clearly couldn't actually see, and had a great feel tonight. That was more impressive to me than his completion percentage.
 
AJ got better protection... Like Gus got in the previous game. Its not like either QB has had a the line pay on their side for consecutive games. ANY QB SHOULD make dump passes... We're supposed to have this miracle offense that takes shots downfield... AJs best 12 yrds didnt make me feel like we're progressing... On the other... excellent game management on AJs part.... But you still have to throw to convert.
 
This gets to be pretty predictable. If Gus has a bad game then we get the bench Gus threads. If AJ has a bad game, then the bench AJ threads appear. It makes me shake my head...where were the bench Gus threads the last two pre-season games??? Oh yea, he played pretty well. So now he has one bad game and we want him done. Gimme me a break! How bout we wait until a) a game is actually game planned for. B)Our qb, no matter who it is, and i think it should be Gus, actually has a whole game to make adjustments. C) our o line is set and we have an actual starting rb!! Its time for some of you to realize that our qb MAY have a bad game, and that doesn't mean its time to freak out and bench him. In fact, that sorta sounds like wannys strategy last year. with our qb's....and we all know how well that turned out. Please everyone relax and if the season starts and Gus is throwing INT's and has an AJ passer rating then feel free to panic!
 
I like AJ, he is an oregon boy! But to take yesterdays game, where Gus faced a first team steeler defense and Aj faced second teamers, and then compare the two qb's isn't reliable. Look at passer ratings, and look at starts. Gus has outplayed AJ in games and in practice....you cant argue the numbers.



Sirspud said:
Frerotte's pocket presence was pretty shoddy, AJ outplayed him there as well. He avoided some blitzers that he clearly couldn't actually see, and had a great feel tonight. That was more impressive to me than his completion percentage.
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Listen I am done bashing Frerotte. Because if he is the starter I want him to succeed.

I will say this, you don't correct over and underthrowing balls in a span of a couple weeks.

Look, we all consistantly watched Fiedler do the same thing.

Is it gonna take Chambers getting knocked out of another game to see just how inaccurate Frerotte is?

I mean, yes u could make the case that Feeleys YPA is rather laughable. However, if u make 3 four yard completions is it not a 1st? If you have a QB throw 3 incompletions 30 yards down the field and goes 3 AND OUT which QB was more successful.

I am not trying to denounce Frerotte. Just this offense is in shambles right now. Feeley is definitely more accurate. On the deep balls every single on has been on the money past 15 yards. Every one. The only one that wasn't was the one where Newsome gave up on the play leading to the INT. Now why do we have to wait for Frerotte to get his timing down when appearantly fEELEY has always this preseason put it where the WR can catch it. Som ehave been sompleted, others have been dropped and others have been deflected away. However, every single throw was made to where the WR could make a play on the ball. When Frerotte underthrows and overthrows everytime the WR can't even make an attempt on it.

Frerotte has made some nice throws. Few to Chambers and a few to Booker and others.

All I am saying is it won't be long before you guys turn on Frerotte for always under or over throwing leading to either INT'S, incompletions that either stop a drive or lead to justa FG just like everyone complained about Fiedler doing that.

Just making a point that to assume one will correct his over and underthrowing when he has done it his whole career is premature. Even in Minny he had the same problem. When with Washington and every other team he has had the same problem.

It's just now that we don't have Moss playing with him it is becoming more appearant then ever

With that said. I don't think Frerotte played bad. He played a typical Frerotte game. His WR'S and line let him down. He didn't do anything special. His only true fault IMO was that fumble returned for a TD. Yes he should have protected the ball.
 
I dont get it.

What happens if the receivers dont drop the makeable balls and fumbilitis doesn't go around like wild fire?

I think the tone changes a bit and we score a TD before the end of the 1st half.
 
phin in the NW said:
I like AJ, he is an oregon boy! But to take yesterdays game, where Gus faced a first team steeler defense and Aj faced second teamers, and then compare the two qb's isn't reliable. Look at passer ratings, and look at starts. Gus has outplayed AJ in games and in practice....you cant argue the numbers.
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I was watching how quickly AJ was getting the ball out of his hands. Frerotte was holding on for way too long, giving the secondary time to adjust (like when the safety broke up the deep ball) and putting additional pressure on the O-line. AJ just had a better feel for where the blitzers were, and that isn't something that can be compared with stats. Still, if you want to bring stats into it, AJ completed 80 percent of his throws tonight while Gus was under 50.
 
Saban4prez said:
no no, a lot of us believe that was totally carters fault. sadly someone like dedric ward would have caught that...
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I'm not sure why this guy brings the Fiedler to Carter pass up as that pass was CLEARLY Carter's fault. Jay couldn't have made it any easier for Cris to catch even if he had sent it by mail and had Carter SIGN for it! Cris Carter, being the #2 WR in NFL history :rolleyes: , SHOULD have made that catch. It was clear that he threw the game.

Now, this leaves me wondering what that pass has to do with the receivers dropping Gus' passes last night. :hmmm:
 
Lungoystr said:
I'm not sure why this guy brings the Fiedler to Carter pass up as that pass was CLEARLY Carter's fault. Jay couldn't have made it any easier for Cris to catch even if he had sent it by mail and had Carter SIGN for it! Cris Carter, being the #2 WR in NFL history :rolleyes: , SHOULD have made that catch. It was clear that he threw the game.

Now, this leaves me wondering what that pass has to do with the receivers dropping Gus' passes last night. :hmmm:
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I thought the latest buzz was that they were "rallying behind him."
 
Sirspud said:
I thought the latest buzz was that they were "rallying behind him."
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Yeah I wonder what Chambers has to say today on Gus. Chambers wont make it through the season healthy if Gus is named starter and continues to throw those ducks
 
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