Could Someone Give Me A Good Reason Why Having 2 Great Backs Is A Bad Thing?

[Dmarino110]

Ok I will say that i hated Ricky when he left. I wanted to do the whole burnt the jersey thing. But he came back and he ran well. He ran well and he did it for minimum wage.

In this league its a fact of life that RBs go down. they get hurt and then you need a second stringer to step up. Ronnie browwend own this year w/o taking a season worth of 30 carry games. He went down after splitting carries with another back. What happens if we get rid of ricky and ronnie goes down again? What happens if it happens while we are chasing a playoff spot? WHO ARE WE GOING TO HAVE RUNNIG THE BALL? TRAVIS MINOR or some other washed up 2nd stringer.

Why is it that Pitsburg can have 2 quality backs and no one is saying how they should trade one for a draft pick? Because when one of them goes down, there is the 2nd (a great 2nd) to run the ball. IT IS A GOOD THNG IN THIS LEAGUE TO HAVE 2 GOOD RBs. why give up a player like ricky for a 1st round pick that will end up getting more money then ricky gets because he was drafted 1st round. You all are sying that ricky is not the future. WHY CANT HE BE? hes still young enough to have a 5-6 more good years, especially if he is not getting the full load. Then if ronnie does get hurt we have a GREAT BACKUP.

As it stands now, we need an offensive line upgrade. what good does drafting a qb do us if hes on the ground every snap.

 

[Alex44]

Because Pitt has a QB names Ben Roethlisberger, we have a QB named Gus Frerotte

Pitt has a more complete team, we have many holes to fill

Seattle has one back and is doing fine

You can go around wondering 'Well what if Ronnie gets hurt' I mean should the colts move up and draft Cutler in case Manning goes down? Of course not


BTW ricky said he only planned on playing 2-3 more years and one of those years is up, even if he stayed when Running Backs hit 30 their play generally drops off

 

[tylerdolphin]

Ok I will say that i hated Ricky when he left. I wanted to do the whole burnt the jersey thing. But he came back and he ran well. He ran well and he did it for minimum wage.

In this league its a fact of life that RBs go down. they get hurt and then you need a second stringer to step up. Ronnie browwend own this year w/o taking a season worth of 30 carry games. He went down after splitting carries with another back. What happens if we get rid of ricky and ronnie goes down again? What happens if it happens while we are chasing a playoff spot? WHO ARE WE GOING TO HAVE RUNNIG THE BALL? TRAVIS MINOR or some other washed up 2nd stringer.

Why is it that Pitsburg can have 2 quality backs and no one is saying how they should trade one for a draft pick? Because when one of them goes down, there is the 2nd (a great 2nd) to run the ball. IT IS A GOOD THNG IN THIS LEAGUE TO HAVE 2 GOOD RBs. why give up a player like ricky for a 1st round pick that will end up getting more money then ricky gets because he was drafted 1st round. You all are sying that ricky is not the future. WHY CANT HE BE? hes still young enough to have a 5-6 more good years, especially if he is not getting the full load. Then if ronnie does get hurt we have a GREAT BACKUP.

As it stands now, we need an offensive line upgrade. what good does drafting a qb do us if hes on the ground every snap.

Theoretically its great. But when you try jam both in a game it hurts both of their games. One needs to be "the guy" and the other back up.

 

[tylerdolphin]

Because Pitt has a QB names Ben Roethlisberger, we have a QB named Gus Frerotte

Pitt has a more complete team, we have many holes to fill

Seattle has one back and is doing fine

You can go around wondering 'Well what if Ronnie gets hurt' I mean should the colts move up and draft Cutler in case Manning goes down? Of course not


BTW ricky said he only planned on playing 2-3 more years and one of those years is up, even if he stayed when Running Backs hit 30 their play generally drops off

Exactly.
plus Ricky was the most used back in history for a 3 year time. How much does he really have left?

 

[Dmarino110]

Theoretically its great. But when you try jam both in a game it hurts both of their games. One needs to be "the guy" and the other back up.

make one the back up, or 3rd down back...

Because Pitt has a QB names Ben Roethlisberger, we have a QB named Gus Frerotte
Pitt has a more complete team, we have many holes to fill
Seattle has one back and is doing fine

You can go around wondering 'Well what if Ronnie gets hurt' I mean should the colts move up and draft Cutler in case Manning goes down? Of course not
BTW ricky said he only planned on playing 2-3 more years and one of those years is up, even if he stayed when Running Backs hit 30 their play generally drops off

And what happens when ronnie goes down? you dindt answer that question. whats wrong with a practically free backup?

 

[dolphan117]

Because Pitt has a QB names Ben Roethlisberger, we have a QB named Gus Frerotte

Pitt has a more complete team, we have many holes to fill

Seattle has one back and is doing fine

You can go around wondering 'Well what if Ronnie gets hurt' I mean should the colts move up and draft Cutler in case Manning goes down? Of course not


BTW ricky said he only planned on playing 2-3 more years and one of those years is up, even if he stayed when Running Backs hit 30 their play generally drops off

Well done Alex, I see you have taken to posting less with higher quality. :wink: Good post.

 

[Sethworld]

2 Great backs is a good thing. But Ricky is still Ricky. He is still the same guy who got suspened for drugs, ran away rather than face his problems, left the team in pieces. He came back for one reason (8 million $1 reasons)... and he can flake out at anytime. Personally I think the sooner we get rid of him the better. He is a problem waiting to happen. The only person who is worse right now is TO... who is just a problem.

 

[dolphan117]

And what happens when ronnie goes down? you dindt answer that question. whats wrong with a practically free backup?

Nothing is wrong with it and in fact I like it a great deal.... But if the choice is keeping both or trading Ricky as part of a deal that would bring us a franchise qb I would deal him in a heartbeat.

 

[Pocoloco]

dude, you've posted this thing like 8 times and still can't spell Pittsburgh right.

Most of the two-back offenses in the NFL feature two very different types of back, and usually one is young and the other is old. The reason is because running backs usually command a high salary, and most teams can't afford to invest that type of money in one position. So they draft a rookie, who eventually replaces the veteran. But for a while (1-2 years), those teams have a two-back sort of offense. Ricky is a special situation that doesn't fit this mold.

I like the depth argument that you're making, but one could also say that it's a good idea to have 2 good Qbs, 2 good corners, a bunch of good linebackers and so on, all for exactly the same reasons. The problem with our Dolphins is that we don't even have 1 of those at some key positions (QB specifically), let alone quality depth at any position. I don't want to see Ricky go either, but if he does, then I am confident will get something good in return because Saban doesn't sell out.

 

[StLouisFinFan]

Ok I will say that i hated Ricky when he left. I wanted to do the whole burnt the jersey thing. But he came back and he ran well. He ran well and he did it for minimum wage.

In this league its a fact of life that RBs go down. they get hurt and then you need a second stringer to step up. Ronnie browwend own this year w/o taking a season worth of 30 carry games. He went down after splitting carries with another back. What happens if we get rid of ricky and ronnie goes down again? What happens if it happens while we are chasing a playoff spot? WHO ARE WE GOING TO HAVE RUNNIG THE BALL? TRAVIS MINOR or some other washed up 2nd stringer.

Why is it that Pitsburg can have 2 quality backs and no one is saying how they should trade one for a draft pick? Because when one of them goes down, there is the 2nd (a great 2nd) to run the ball. IT IS A GOOD THNG IN THIS LEAGUE TO HAVE 2 GOOD RBs. why give up a player like ricky for a 1st round pick that will end up getting more money then ricky gets because he was drafted 1st round. You all are sying that ricky is not the future. WHY CANT HE BE? hes still young enough to have a 5-6 more good years, especially if he is not getting the full load. Then if ronnie does get hurt we have a GREAT BACKUP.

As it stands now, we need an offensive line upgrade. what good does drafting a qb do us if hes on the ground every snap.

It's kinda like having two luxury homes, that alot of people may covet, but what you really need is a boat to carry out your childhood dreams of sailing the seven seas...so you get rid of one thing you don't need (like..but don't need) to get somoething else you do need.

 

[Dmarino110]

Nothing is wrong with it and in fact I like it a great deal.... But if the choice is keeping both or trading Ricky as part of a deal that would bring us a franchise qb I would deal him in a heartbeat.

i understand that. but from where i sit, i dont see anyone at 16 as a franchise qb.

2 Great backs is a good thing. But Ricky is still Ricky. He is still the same guy who got suspened for drugs, ran away rather than face his problems, left the team in pieces. He came back for one reason (8 million $1 reasons)... and he can flake out at anytime. Personally I think the sooner we get rid of him the better. He is a problem waiting to happen. The only person who is worse right now is TO... who is just a problem.

at this point who cares. as long as hes with us i doubt hes gonna flake out because of those 8 million reasons. at this point we have nothing to lose by keeping him and gain a great 3rd down back who can start if he needs to.

dude, you've posted this thing like 8 times and still can't spell Pittsburgh right.

Most of the two-back offenses in the NFL feature two very different types of back, and usually one is young and the other is old. The reason is because running backs usually command a high salary, and most teams can't afford to invest that type of money in one position. So they draft a rookie, who eventually replaces the veteran. But for a while (1-2 years), those teams have a two-back sort of offense.

I like the depth argument that you're making, but one could also say that it's a good idea to have 2 good Qbs, 2 good corners, a bunch of good linebackers and so on, all for exactly the same reasons. The problem with our Dolphins is that we don't even have 1 of those at some key positions (QB specifically), let alone quality depth at any position. I don't want to see Ricky go either, but if he does, then I am confident will get something good in return because Saban doesn't sell out.

Yeah but in this case its not costing us any money to keep both of them. why throw away a good back whos playing for minimum wage and playing like a superstar

It's kinda like having two luxury homes, that alot of people may covet, but what you really need is a boat to carry out your childhood dreams of sailing the seven seas...so you get rid of one thing you don't need (like..but don't need) to get somoething else you do need.

We need an offensive line for a QB to stand behind. otherwise its gonna be like david carr in his first year. I say use the 16 pick to get the best OT u can

 

[dolphan117]

i understand that. but from where i sit, i dont see anyone at 16 as a franchise qb.

If we used Ricky as part of the trade we wouldnt be siting at 16. :wink:

 

[Dmarino110]

If we used Ricky as part of the trade we wouldnt be siting at 16. :wink:

i doubt we get a 1st rounder for just him...what else would we have to give up...then u have to find a team that will trade so we can get a better pick...

 

[PhinSoldia]

make one the back up, or 3rd down back...



And what happens when ronnie goes down? you dindt answer that question. whats wrong with a practically free backup?

we have Kay Jay who havent gotten a chance to run behind ronnie. and look the truth is Ronnie borders on bust if Nick feels SO MUCH of ricky that he doesnt want to let ricky go

 

[PhinSoldia]

Because Pitt has a QB names Ben Roethlisberger, we have a QB named Gus Frerotte

Pitt has a more complete team, we have many holes to fill

Seattle has one back and is doing fine

You can go around wondering 'Well what if Ronnie gets hurt' I mean should the colts move up and draft Cutler in case Manning goes down? Of course not


BTW ricky said he only planned on playing 2-3 more years and one of those years is up, even if he stayed when Running Backs hit 30 their play generally drops off

couldn't have said it better myself