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Ok, so bring on the hate and whatnot but I have been a Henne supporter since he got here, I feel he was judged too harshly in the games he played in this season...(in all fairness henne lost 4 games in 4 starts, moore lost 6 in 12) it took moore time to heat up and get into the groove of it. We were all jumping on the henne bandwagon at the start of the year with his start. So i think he deserves another shot. We are going to have a pass heavy gamestyle which i feel henne could flourish in.

Anyways I had a dream last night that the phins resigned Henne to a three year deal, due to the performance of matt moore, they traded him along with draft pick(s) (my dream wasnt that detailed to remember if it was just swapping 1st rounders or more picks involved) to get the second pick in the draft to get the qb that the colts don't get (assuming RGIII) then we let griffin learn the system for a year or two or so (philbin knows how to mature qb's ie aaron rodgers under brett favre) and then we are set.

Now i know this isn't very realistic but who knows. Along with that, we draft one or two OL, a safety, LB, and CB. If we pick up say mario williams and i think reggie nelson has been speculated to be a possibility at safety. I think we are on our way to a better foundation.

Ok....cue the calling me stupid replies haha but i can dream.
 
At one time, I too was a Henne supporter. BUT...the bottom line is that Moore clearly outplayed Henne and we have Moore signed for another year at a cheap rate. Henne will be a decent back-up QB in the league, but Moore is a better back-up QB and a servicable starter if need be. Moore at this point, is far more valuable to the Dolphins than Henne. Plus, if we look to trade Moore what we would get in return in terms of a draft pick, would not be worth his current value to our team.

Sorry...but if I'm the Phins I keep Moore and don't even waste my time talking to Henne about a new contract.
 
My thing is, Moore experienced successes that Henne never had as a Dolphin and we would trade away that to keep a guy the fans literally booed out of town . . . . and a rookie?

I like Henne as much as anybody on here, and truth be told, I wouldn't mind him coming back to compete . . . lord knows he has some talent and maybe the west coast type of offense, would suit him quite well. However Matt Moore needs to be in the fold. In today's game, a team needs solid depth at the QB position. The passing game is more important than ever and having 3 solid options at QB isn't a bad thing.

That being said, it wouldn't shock me if Henne were to outperform Matt Moore or whatever first round rookie we would obtain in your scenario . . . but depending on that to happen is a step back and we brought in Philbin to be a key component in help finding the right QB to take this team to a Super Bowl.

We have a new coach, this is as good of a time as any to swing for the fences and land the QB of your choice. Hopefully we do that.
 
I've seen Moore on the sidelines, encouraging his line and skill players, being enthusiastic, giving reinforcement. Obviously it resonates with them including Marshall who hated Henne. Even if their skillsets were comparable, which they're not as Moore doesn't stare down his receivers, can improvise and actually is one of the more accurate long ball passers in the league. But just the reality that Matt has the "it factor" where Henne is a bump on a log alone is the reason there's no comparison between the two. A case in fact can be made that Moore ended up being the second best QB in the division last season.

Henne might be good backup fodder but I'd hate to see him take away TC and 1st team practice reps from whomever the presumptive starter is in 2012, like Moore was deprived of in 2011.
 
i dunno...theres just something about henne that i really like as a player...sure he aint no tom brady, but the guy is a team player and i could definitely tell a greater confidence in the pocket, he just needed the better protection that matt moore had at the end of the year.
 
chambers09 said:
i dunno...theres just something about henne that i really like as a player...sure he aint no tom brady, but the guy is a team player and i could definitely tell a greater confidence in the pocket, he just needed the better protection that matt moore had at the end of the year.
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There are several things to like about Henne. The guy has a cannon and he is tough as nails. I think Daboll's system would have eventually helped him experience some of the successes that Moore saw towards the end of the season, but you could tell the OLine and the defense really were effected by the lockout and it took them some time to get into things and it helped the overall success of the team later on. Thing is, you can't take away from what Matt Moore did last season. Dude was more accurate on his deep passes than Henne ever could dream to be. He displayed some of that same toughness that Chad always has and he didn't turn the ball over as much. He threw TD passes in the redzone and his team looked at him as a leader where as with Henne you at times saw the respect as a leader but for the most part that was never there.

I'm not saying Henne can't become a solid starter at QB in this league, but at this moment I wouldn't dream of getting rid of Matt Moore for Chad Henne . . . no way.
 
The only thing I don't agree with in your post is letting RG3 sit and develop. You don't draft a guy #2 and let him ride the bench for a year or two. If we go out of our way to draft a guy #2 he will be the starter.
 
Drubatuba said:
The only thing I don't agree with in your post is letting RG3 sit and develop. You don't draft a guy #2 and let him ride the bench for a year or two. If we go out of our way to draft a guy #2 he will be the starter.
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I disagree, if we drafted RGIII I still think Matt Moore could start the season. We are talking about a QB that finished in the top half of the league in most major categories, almost a 2 to 1 TD to INT ratio, threw the deep ball at one of the highest if not the highest success rates in the league and has familiaraity with the players. I think it is a luxury to have a guy like that in place while bringing along a guy like RGIII.

Many teams draft QB's with a top 3 pick and many times that QB starts the season on the bench . . . a long term QB option is key with the Fins, but we aren't in terrible hands with Matt Moore already on the roster.
 
Kdawg954 said:
I disagree, if we drafted RGIII I still think Matt Moore could start the season. We are talking about a QB that finished in the top half of the league in most major categories, almost a 2 to 1 TD to INT ratio, threw the deep ball at one of the highest if not the highest success rates in the league and has familiaraity with the players. I think it is a luxury to have a guy like that in place while bringing along a guy like RGIII.


Many teams draft QB's with a top 3 pick and many times that QB starts the season on the bench . . . a long term QB option is key with the Fins, but we aren't in terrible hands with Matt Moore already on the roster.
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I disagree. If the Fins trade up to #2 to get RGIII, they have to start him right away because they will have to give up a lot just to move up to that spot. You don't want to do that and then have the guy sit on the bench. It makes no sense.
 
I lost interest as soon as I saw Henne's name. Matt Moore played well, and deserves an opportunity to compete for a starting spot. Henne will suck under any offense, West Coast, East Coast, North Coast, or South Coast. Let him follow that clown Sparano to the Jets so that he can compete with Sanchez.
 
I for one just don't get all the Moore love. Yeah he had some pretty great games, but not until the whole team was playing lights out. His first 5 games were horrible. When the team wasn't doing well, he sucked. We need a QB that can turn a game around and my friends Moore is not it.
I would not want to pass on getting some fresh blood in here through the draft, or signing Flynn or Manning but you guys that are Henne bashing are doing it with Moore goggles on just bc of how the first couple seasons went. Hennes first 4 games showed us a completely different guy who took over the huddle, showed fantastic vision in the back field, ran the ball superbly and at the right times and was chucking the ball down the field beautifully. He did all that with the team around him playing like garbage.
Bash if you want to but I for one would be happier with him than Moore. Henne had started coming in to his own and showed amazing progression.
Again, I want to draft a young player or would love to see Flynn here but Henne would be the safer back up hands down. He moved the ball better in the tough situations than Moore ever could. The only thing Moore proved is that he is capable of making some plays well when the game was going good.
 
Mr. Day said:
I lost interest as soon as I saw Henne's name. Matt Moore played well, and deserves an opportunity to compete for a starting spot. Henne will suck under any offense, West Coast, East Coast, North Coast, or South Coast. Let him follow that clown Sparano to the Jets so that he can compete with Sanchez.
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Be Careful what you ask for. You know our track record with former Dolphins going to other teams in the same division (Welker). I don't want that coming back to Bite us on the A$$.
 
IF i ever have to stomach watching Henne play for us again I'll kill myself
 
Henne is tied as the worst QB since Marino along with Feeley and Beck. SMFH I cant wait til hes officially not a Dolphin.
 
I have been one of Henne's more outspoken supporters last year, and I wanted to see him at least get one years without Henning as his OC, but injury or not, Henne was not able to impress enough to convince anyone he is every going to be the answer at starting QB. Like Vark said, Moore had a far more accurate long ball, and with the type of talent Miami has at receiver, the QB needs to throw a bettermore accurate intermediate to long ball.

Miami needs to upgrade the starting position, and with Moore you are getting a cheap backup, if Miami's staff wanted to, and were able to sign Henne for less then what Moore will be getting in 2012 (VERY DOUBTFUL), trading Moore might not be a bad idea, considering with Moore you can get something, with Henne you get nothing, and both can be good backups in different ways.
 
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