I am having an agruement on another board regarding Culpepper. the say Moss made Culpepper what he was in Minnesota. I brought up the fact that he had no running game in Minnesota and still put up big numbers and that when he had a 100 yard rusher his stats increased greatly. All I want is proof in stats that Moss did not make Culpepper good. that he wasn't the only reason Culpepper is what he is. could one of you find stats to back my agruement?
Culpepper agruement
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well, i cant help you find stats, but look up his 2004 season where Moss was injured for a majority of it, and he still put up prolific numbers...Show the stats where Moss didnt play in the game and Culpepper still played great
bullseyeguy
Heart of A Champion
Just ask them why Kerry Collins didnt go to the probowl...
Pep had his best year in '04 with Moss injured for the better part of the season. I belive Randy missed 2-3 games. i watched the entire season b/c I had Moss on my fantasy team. Even when he played after the injury, he was a shell of himself. He only had 1 or 2 TDs after the injury and mostly acted as a poor decoy for the last half of the season. All the while Pep had his best year and probably one of the 5 best years in NFL history for a QB
gunnakillbrady
boy i think they like me
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/min2004.htm
Just look at the stats of the Vikings receivers other than Moss!
DC is good....look at the tight end stats and McMichael is better then Wiggins
Just look at the stats of the Vikings receivers other than Moss!
DC is good....look at the tight end stats and McMichael is better then Wiggins
PhinsPhan
Pro Bowler
Lets not forget in 2003 when Culpepper sat out two games Gus Frerotte came in and dominated to the tune of 115 QB rtg.
stryker
Wade County
The Culpepper Manifesto
If you haven't read this, then you NEED to. This breaks down Culpepper's career stats and debunks any possible argument (including the moss factor) that says Culpepper is garbage. Just read this and it will answer all your questions. There is a link to it on finheaven homepage on the right hand side under the Commentary section.
http://www.finheaven.com/content/view/253/37/
If you haven't read this, then you NEED to. This breaks down Culpepper's career stats and debunks any possible argument (including the moss factor) that says Culpepper is garbage. Just read this and it will answer all your questions. There is a link to it on finheaven homepage on the right hand side under the Commentary section.
http://www.finheaven.com/content/view/253/37/
Phinagler
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see the Culpepper Manifesto
PassRush
Drunken Sailor
Saying that Moss made Culpepper is like saying that the Cowbell made music. Sure, music is better with cowbell but not entirely necesary
BennyVW
I'm the Man in the Box
It's easy just check out his stats from last year"
week 1 vs Tampa
Pepper 22/33 233 yds 3 INT
Running backs 14 yards on 12 att 0 TD's
Culpepper 19 yards on 3 att
Week 2 vs Bengals
Culpepper 21/37 236 yards 5 INT
Runningbacks
67 yards on 12 Att 0 TD's
Pepper
10 yards 2 Att 1TD
Week 3 vs saints
Pepper 21/29 300 yards 3 TD's
Runningbacks 111 yards on 30 Att 0 TD's
WOW look at that!!! when a runnning back breaks 100 yards pepper plays great, but when they suck so does he!
Check the stats for the rest of the season...they all follow this pattern...
week 1 vs Tampa
Pepper 22/33 233 yds 3 INT
Running backs 14 yards on 12 att 0 TD's
Culpepper 19 yards on 3 att
Week 2 vs Bengals
Culpepper 21/37 236 yards 5 INT
Runningbacks
67 yards on 12 Att 0 TD's
Pepper
10 yards 2 Att 1TD
Week 3 vs saints
Pepper 21/29 300 yards 3 TD's
Runningbacks 111 yards on 30 Att 0 TD's
WOW look at that!!! when a runnning back breaks 100 yards pepper plays great, but when they suck so does he!
Check the stats for the rest of the season...they all follow this pattern...
bullseyeguy
Heart of A Champion
I think an arguement could easily be made, that Daunte made Moss who he was. Honestly though, they made each other better...
Ive lived in MN for the last 5 years, and watched almost every Vikes game. People around here, are very fickle and every time there was a loss, the blame went on Daunte..I spent alot of time trying to explain that it wasnt all his fault, and Im not even a Vikings fan. The system over there was designed for a failure plain and simple...
Ive lived in MN for the last 5 years, and watched almost every Vikes game. People around here, are very fickle and every time there was a loss, the blame went on Daunte..I spent alot of time trying to explain that it wasnt all his fault, and Im not even a Vikings fan. The system over there was designed for a failure plain and simple...
slyfox13
Pro Bowler
C-pep had 1 weapon then ,now he has a boat load <pun intended> whats the argument. imagine what he'll be able to do with the rcieving corp in place in miami,not to mention the back field Lmao:sidelol: to go 1 step further lets take a look at moss last season geezenick1 said: