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Culpepper and Randy Moss were both amazing together but when they split they havent done well. Did they have something special or who helped the other one more.
 
they way i see it they both brought the best out of each other and thats why they had soo much success... it wasnt really a case of one bringing the best out of the other IMO. Cpep isnt the same player now only because he's injured, uncomfortable, and not up to speed.

People like to point out that every Qb had success in that offense... but Cpep also had alot of success in that offense without Moss. Neither player is having the same kind of oppurtunities they've had. However, Pep should once he's feeling 100 %, gets good protection without having to use TE's and backs to sit back and block, etc.
 
Moss is pretty much always open and Culpepper created time with his mobility and has a very strong arm which made Moss even better. They were perfect for each other.
 
Heck im willing to trade Chambers for Moss anyone else agree? haha
 
Moss did well with Cunningham, George, Frerotte, Johnson, and Bouman in MN too. Moss had a 40 time of 4.25, the only one to ever have a lower time was Deion Sanders with 4.23. Plus he's 6'4" and has good hands and made circus catches. He told his quarterbacks that if they saw him running side-by-side with someone he was just playing with them and to lob the ball out as far as they could and he'd catch up to it.

Moss has never been overthrown in the NFL. This is why he was always at least double covered at all times, since if they tried to run with him they'd get beat and if they ran ahead of him he'd just stop, turn around and catch the ball. With double coverage on Moss, a lot of times the other receivers would get open. Often they'd throw into double or triple coverage anyway and Moss would end up with the ball. I don't know why nobody has been able to duplicate this success.

edit to show visual proof of what I'm talking about:
Here is a Youtube video that sums up Culpepper's time with Randy Moss. First of all, Culpepper didn't even look around at any other receivers. Moss was his only target from the getgo, and all he did was throw it out as far as he could and let Moss catch up to it. Secondly, Moss was double covered. Lastly, he threw the ball 50 yards right off the snap and still underthrew Moss.:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH725f4flew

Here's another Moss is double covered but just outruns them both:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ0R5Fqxf10&NR

another double covered Moss all Cully had to do is throw it so Moss could catch up to the ball but the other two couldn't:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqmfEHMP9sE&NR

here's one where Culpepper basically hands off to Moss and he runs past five guys for a TD showing how extremely fast he is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QSR6yohx0c&NR
here's basically the same thing only another team:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlg38OuwVWA&NR

about 40% of Pep's TDs came from Moss. And it's not like only Culpepper could do it. Here's Frerotte doing it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCwX1g6T0I0
and here's Bouman doing it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrNc0DiZ8bU
that's what you call a one-trick pony, these touchdowns that he had very little to do with inflated his reputation and his ego
 
elandre said:
Heck im willing to trade Chambers for Moss anyone else agree? haha
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no way, Chambers brings heart. You can't make a trade just for the hell of making a trade. The players are humans too. You don't think they would be affected by this let alone Chambers
 
I would like to see a Duante Culpepper Chris Chambers duo going on but Duante either overthrows or underthrows and when he gets it on the money Chambers doesn't bring it in. Welker is really the only one who bring his A+ game.
 
elandre said:
Heck im willing to trade Chambers for Moss anyone else agree? haha
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no not at all.chambers isnt as ****y as moss and not for the mollah.chambers has a passion which is rare to find in such a high payed postion
 
elandre said:
Heck im willing to trade Chambers for Moss anyone else agree? haha
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absolutely, I would do that in a heartbeat. Nothing against Chambers, but Moss is one of the very best.
 
i just dont think that either of them can play without each other seems to be the case anyway and niether of them have shown anything to prove otherwise
 
well honestly i would be all for trading chambers for moss or somehow bringing moss here maybe even along side chambers because like we have this discussion i tried to stay with the faithful about chambers but i repeat he is not elite, he is very good but isnt in the class of moss johnson owens and smith those guys are potential game breakers every game chambers isnt I'm sorry for whoever has a diff opinion but thats the way i feel and believe me i wish i wrong but i'm not
 
Here is a Youtube video that sums up Culpepper's time with Randy Moss. First of all, Culpepper didn't even look around at any other receivers. Moss was his only target from the getgo, and all he did was throw it out as far as he could and let Moss catch up to it. Secondly, Moss was double covered. Lastly, he threw the ball 50 yards right off the snap and still underthrew Moss.:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH725f4flew

Here's another Moss is double covered but just outruns them both:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ0R5Fqxf10&NR

another double covered Moss all Cully had to do is throw it so Moss could catch up to the ball but the other two couldn't:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqmfEHMP9sE&NR

here's one where Culpepper basically hands off to Moss and he runs past five guys for a TD showing how extremely fast he is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QSR6yohx0c&NR
here's basically the same thing only another team:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlg38OuwVWA&NR

about 40% of Pep's TDs came from Moss. And it's not like only Culpepper could do it. Here's Frerotte doing it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCwX1g6T0I0
and here's Bouman doing it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrNc0DiZ8bU
that's what you call a one-trick pony, these touchdowns that he had very little to do with inflated his reputation and his ego
 
everyone seems to be forgetting about cris carter!!

the team of moss AND carter was the key.

randys play went down hill after carter left.

randy is in a MAJOR poop hole in oakland with
NO chance of winning in the coming years.

he is not happy. he wants to win!

and duante also had a GREAT running game which
was tops in the nfl for a couple years he and moss
and carter were there. people forget how well that
team ran the ball. neither of them have steller backs
to work with right now either.

and the o-line in minnisota during those guys time?
one of the best ever in history.

randy is sad he landed in the wrong place. he knows
there is nothing he can do to fix it.

duante just plain sux for whatever reason.

and there success with the vikes was no mystery.
great wr's, top of the nfl run game and stellar o-line.

thats what made those two successful with the vikes!
 
One other Moss factor, the running game. Every play called Moss commanded the double team, running off not only the DB but also the Safety.
 
Scott Linehan, simple conclusion.

After the trio seperated...

Moss, not as dominate.

Culpepper, not as dominate, in fact he has been bad.

Linehan, takes the Dolphins offense from last to 12th, makes Chris Chambers one of the most dangerous WR's in the NFL. Gets an NFL head coaching job.
 
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