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Culpepper Vs. Brees - By the Numbers!!! (Culpepper is better by the way)

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Culpepper:
GG-S-Att-Comp-Pct-Yards-YPA-Lg-TD-Int-Tkld-20+-40+-Rate
16-16-474-297-62.7-3937-8.31-78-33-16-34/181-56-13-98.0

11-11-366-235-64.2-2612-7.14-57-14-13-33/186-34-5-83.3

16-16-549-333-60.7-3853-7.02-61-18-23-47/244-48-9-75.3

14-14-454-295-65.0-3479-7.66-59-25-11-37/196-41-10-96.4

16-16-548-379-69.2-4717-8.61-82-39-11-46/238-63-18-110.9

7-7-216-139-64.4-1564-7.24-68-61-23-1/169-16-2-72.0
TOTAL
81-80-2607-1678-64.4-20162-7.73-82-135-86-228/1214-258-57-91.5


*Omitted was Culpepper's 99' seasons stats, because he accumulated no stats and no QB rating. Also omitted was yr ( stats start from the 200 season with the last being the 05' season) and team played for.

Brees:
GG-S-Att-Comp-Pct-Yards-YPA-Lg-TD-Int-Tkld-20+-40+-Rate
16-16-526-320-60.8-3284-6.24-52-17-16-24/180-40-4-76.9

11-11-356-205-57.6-2108-5.92-68-11-15-21/178-28-5-67.5

15-15-400-262-65.5-3159-7.90-79-27-7-18/131-40-9-104.8

16-16-500-323-64.6-3576-7.15-54-24-15-27/223-46-4-89.2
TOTAL
59-58-1809-1125-62.2-12348-6.83-79-80-53-92/724-158-23-84.9


*Omitted was yr/team played for, for the sake of neatness. Also omitted was the 01 season because Drew only played in one game. (2001San Diego Chargers10271555.62218.1940102/124194.8) So there for Drew's stats start from the 02 season to the 05 season.





Now again will someone explain why we are arguing for the services of a career 85 rated Qb over a career 92 rated Qb?

Excuse me if I'm just a little confused by all of this. DC sucks? I think not!
 
Culpepper is a fantasy QB, puts up great #s but doesn't come through in big moments and big games. Not to mention now that Culpepper is coming off a major knee injury. Any team spending picks or aklot of $ of daunte is fooliosh which is why I am hoping he ends up w/ Miami.
 
nyjunc said:
Culpepper is a fantasy QB, puts up great #s but doesn't come through in big moments and big games. Not to mention now that Culpepper is coming off a major knee injury. Any team spending picks or aklot of $ of daunte is fooliosh which is why I am hoping he ends up w/ Miami.
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I don't remember Brees being so clutch in big spots either.
 
I'll take a fantasy Qb on my team any day, that means he's putting up numbers!

All you have to do is surround him with the right personel.
 
id rather have a less mobile QB because of injury rather than one that will have his throwing affected..

DC is the real deal, last year was a fluke
 
phinfan2003 said:
I don't remember Brees being so clutch in big spots either.
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True but I don't remember Brees completely choking the way Daunte has. Daunte had a 13 rating against a mdicore giant tam in the '00 playoffs, put up 17 pts in a do or die game at Ari in wk 17 in '03 when Ari had given up 33/gm for about 9 weeks and led them to 10 pts in the competitive portion of the game in '04 at Wash but luckily for him they let 2 8-8 teams in the playoffs in the NFC that year.

I'm really not sold on either one actually. I think i'd rather save money and keep Gus and Sage if I was a dolphin fan. Build up around them until a better option becomes available. In reality if you make the right moves you can be a true SB contender in '07 so no need to overpay for a QB this year.
 
JG718 said:
Culpepper:
GG-S-Att-Comp-Pct-Yards-YPA-Lg-TD-Int-Tkld-20+-40+-Rate
16-16-474-297-62.7-3937-8.31-78-33-16-34/181-56-13-98.0

11-11-366-235-64.2-2612-7.14-57-14-13-33/186-34-5-83.3

16-16-549-333-60.7-3853-7.02-61-18-23-47/244-48-9-75.3

14-14-454-295-65.0-3479-7.66-59-25-11-37/196-41-10-96.4

16-16-548-379-69.2-4717-8.61-82-39-11-46/238-63-18-110.9

7-7-216-139-64.4-1564-7.24-68-61-23-1/169-16-2-72.0
TOTAL
81-80-2607-1678-64.4-20162-7.73-82-13586-228/1214-258-57-91.5


*Omitted was Culpepper's 99' seasons stats, because he accumulated no stats and no QB rating. Also omitted was yr ( stats start from the 200 season with the last being the 05' season) and team played for.


Brees:
GG-S-Att-Comp-Pct-Yards-YPA-Lg-TD-Int-Tkld-20+-40+-Rate
16-16-526-320-60.8-3284-6.24-52-17-16-24/180-40-4-76.9

11-11-356-205-57.6-2108-5.92-68-11-15-21/178-28-5-67.5

15-15-400-262-65.5-3159-7.90-79-27-7-18/131-40-9-104.8

16-16-500-323-64.6-3576-7.15-54-24-15-27/223-46-4-89.2
TOTAL
59-58-1809-1125-62.2-12348-6.83-79-8053-92/724-158-23-84.9


*Omitted was yr/team played for, for the sake of neatness. Also omitted was the 01 season because Drew only played in one game. (2001San Diego Chargers10271555.62218.1940102/124194.8)





Now again will someone explain why we are arguing for the services of a career 85 rated Qb over a career 92 rated Qb?

Excuse me if I'm just a little confused by all of this. DC sucks? I think not!
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Because stats don't tell all the story...and QB rating is a farce anyways...The real question goes beyond stats and into the intangibles. Leadership and decsision making. Culpepper doesn't hold a candle to Brees in these areas. Brees has made the QB controversy in SD a non-controversy except with team management. His decision making is on par with the elite QBs...Culpepper has a history of fumbling and INTs, he turned the Moss factor into a controversy at Minny in the last few years. When he was expected to become the man of the franchise this year....after all the belly-aching about Moss and when Moss was finally gone...he didn't get the job done...

All this said, I wouldn't take either right now due to their injury prognosises...
 
nyjunc said:
True but I don't remember Brees completely choking the way Daunte has. Daunte had a 13 rating against a mdicore giant tam in the '00 playoffs, put up 17 pts in a do or die game at Ari in wk 17 in '03 when Ari had given up 33/gm for about 9 weeks and led them to 10 pts in the competitive portion of the game in '04 at Wash but luckily for him they let 2 8-8 teams in the playoffs in the NFC that year.

I'm really not sold on either one actually. I think i'd rather save money and keep Gus and Sage if I was a dolphin fan. Build up around them until a better option becomes available. In reality if you make the right moves you can be a true SB contender in '07 so no need to overpay for a QB this year.
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brees is fairly young , if saban had the chance , why wouldnt he grab the qb that can take him to the SB now....we had our year of restructuring, time to win some games!
 
Simmer Finner said:
brees is fairly young , if saban had the chance , why wouldnt he grab the qb that can take him to the SB now....we had our year of restructuring, time to win some games!
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If he feels he can win w/ one of them then yeah obviously he should get them but I know Culpepper is not a winner and I'm not sure about Brees. if I had a choice I go w/ Brees but then again he has the shoulder injury. It's a really tough call.
 
i will give you a nice stat
81 games played 81 fumbles
more interceptions than TDs
he is a turn over machine!
 
JG718 said:
Culpepper:
GG-S-Att-Comp-Pct-Yards-YPA-Lg-TD-Int-Tkld-20+-40+-Rate
16-16-474-297-62.7-3937-8.31-78-33-16-34/181-56-13-98.0

11-11-366-235-64.2-2612-7.14-57-14-13-33/186-34-5-83.3

16-16-549-333-60.7-3853-7.02-61-18-23-47/244-48-9-75.3

14-14-454-295-65.0-3479-7.66-59-25-11-37/196-41-10-96.4

16-16-548-379-69.2-4717-8.61-82-39-11-46/238-63-18-110.9

7-7-216-139-64.4-1564-7.24-68-61-23-1/169-16-2-72.0
TOTAL
81-80-2607-1678-64.4-20162-7.73-82-13586-228/1214-258-57-91.5


*Omitted was Culpepper's 99' seasons stats, because he accumulated no stats and no QB rating. Also omitted was yr ( stats start from the 200 season with the last being the 05' season) and team played for.

Brees:
GG-S-Att-Comp-Pct-Yards-YPA-Lg-TD-Int-Tkld-20+-40+-Rate
16-16-526-320-60.8-3284-6.24-52-17-16-24/180-40-4-76.9

11-11-356-205-57.6-2108-5.92-68-11-15-21/178-28-5-67.5

15-15-400-262-65.5-3159-7.90-79-27-7-18/131-40-9-104.8

16-16-500-323-64.6-3576-7.15-54-24-15-27/223-46-4-89.2
TOTAL
59-58-1809-1125-62.2-12348-6.83-79-8053-92/724-158-23-84.9


*Omitted was yr/team played for, for the sake of neatness. Also omitted was the 01 season because Drew only played in one game. (2001San Diego Chargers10271555.62218.1940102/124194.8) So there for Drew's stats start from the 02 season to the 05 season.





Now again will someone explain why we are arguing for the services of a career 85 rated Qb over a career 92 rated Qb?

Excuse me if I'm just a little confused by all of this. DC sucks? I think not!
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THere are certainly good arguments for both. I like them both. I also think QB rating is way overrated, and a difference of 7 from 92 to 85, means little. They are both top QB's.
 
WindyCityDolfan said:
THere are certainly good arguments for both. I like them both. I also think QB rating is way overrated, and a difference of 7 from 92 to 85, means little. They are both top QB's.
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i agree, and it sure helps culpeppers numbers when he had randy moss catching the ball. who has brees had at WR during his stay at SD? i think the biggest sta i would look at is 7 games for culpepper in 06 6 TDs 12 ints (first year without Moss), and i don't even know how many fumbles he had
 
fear-the-d said:
i will give you a nice stat
81 games played 81 fumbles
more interceptions than TDs
he is a turn over machine!
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Yes, the fumbles are very bad, but he did not lose 81 fumbles. Neither QB has more Ints than TD's (career wise). I don't know where you got that stat from.
 
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