Curios to know....(for all you Wanstetd believers or Supporters)

[FinfanInBuffalo]

Can the same be said about last year?? Were we not better than the Texans?? heck we win that game and we're looking at playoffs...We were Loaded with talent and we didnt even make the playoffs....

Teams loaded with talent do not replace 9 starters in one offseason.

Or even this year, I honsetly dont think the Titans are better than we are...If anything we're just as good/bad...There was no reason we should've lost that game by that much of a margin....

The Titans were returning a team with a top offense and defense. They are clearly a better team at this point.

And i dont think too many people will argue that we had a pro-bowl team last year and shouldve beaten the Texans...

I'll give you that one. Ask the players why they sucked it up.

When you have a coach stick around for 4 yrs you should be improving or at least repeating your success...In Wanstetds case we've only seen decrease and we've only seen playoffs once and that was in Wanny's 1st yr.....Here we are stuck with a coach who hasnt even let us see playoffs for 3 consecutive years...

Well, there goes your credibility. You don't even know how many times we've made the playoffs and you want to fire the coach?

To answer your question...It would literally take Wanstetd a trip to the championship game this year for me to forgive what he's done to our franchise..If he does that this year i will be the first to come out and apologize and admit i was wrong...eat all the crow...I've put up & been patient with him for the past 4 years...Yet I'm willing to forgive him with ONE good year....

but for me to sit here & make excuses for him on how this team has been struck with bad luck would be foolish because he's had his share of chances and hasn't taken advantage of them...how many more chances do we give this guy??

right now he owes us,.. and owes us BIG...

enough is enough.

I hate to break this to you but his first two seasons were excellent jobs. Why is it that you don't give him credit for the two good seasons?

 

[phinfan2003]

Oh yes it can. Why exactly can't it be both? Sometimes, that talent on D is enough to overcome dave's offensive-retarded system and pass-hampered QB. Sometimes, well zach and the boys, can't win every single game on their own. It's that simple. So yes, you can have it both ways

Then I have a solution for you. Let's fire Wannstedt and his staff and let the players coach themselves. This way we'll most definitely finish this season 15-1 and win the SB!

 

[phinfan2003]

How long is your memory? (Dolphin fan community, not just you pinphan2003)? This guy, Wanny, shouldn't have even been around this year, heck last year was questionable also.

Think back two years ago. last week of the season The game was here in New England and you had the Pats on the ropes. All you had to do was put the game away, kill the clock and you would have been ACFE camps. just keep the clock moving. But Instead of running the ball Wanny started throwing it and wound up letting the Pats hang around, tie the game and beat you in overtime. Instead of winning the game, Being the division champs and getting a first round bye, you lost everything. And the Jets ended up as the victors.

It was PAINFULLY obvious then that Wanny had to go. He has no clue how to manage a game, let alone a team. Now you want him to manage a team in dissaray? all you have left are your prayers.

If the past is precurser for the future, You guys would have been better off getting Norv Turner when you had the chance. He may not win in Oakland, But a least he's trying to bring in the people he feels will put him in a better postion to win.

Now if Miami DOES somehow manage to finish with a playoff victory this year, and Wanny wins the "Coach of the year" award, I don't think you can rue out NOT firing him. You guys never should have been put in this postion in the first place. You want to keep him around, I say your just a gluton for punishment.
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Please don't remind me of that tragic day. As much as that game hurt, there were a lot of different events that contributed to that loss (among them that fluke pass interference. The game may have been over if the refs don't botch that one. It gave them awesome field position as well as momentum with the crowd back in the game).

Now you suggest Norv should have been promoted to HC but I ask you this, who do you think called for those 3 consecutive passes in that Pats game? And what has Norv done in this league that would make you believe he's more qualified than Wanny? Didn't he get canned by the Redskins because he was constantly underachieving and lost control of that team?

 

[Predaphin]

I hate to break this to you but his first two seasons were excellent jobs. Why is it that you don't give him credit for the two good seasons?

I do give Wanny credit for his first 2 yrs, I actually had faith in him at one point, but he hasn't done anything but bring our team down since...Keep in mind Wanny was handed a good team, it's not like he came in here and rebuilt it or made this team from bad to good...no, he was handed a good team already, and it is my belief he was living off that success,...now, you are seeing that handed success fade quick...

:shakeno: :shakeno:

 

[FinfanInBuffalo]

I do give Wanny credit for his first 2 yrs, I actually had faith in him at one point, but he hasn't done anything but bring our team down since...Keep in mind Wanny was handed a good team, it's not like he came in here and rebuilt it or made this team from bad to good...no, he was handed a good team already, and it is my belief he was living off that success,...now, you are seeing that handed success fade quick...

:shakeno: :shakeno:

Wanny was handed half a team. The offense needed a complete overhaul. New QB, new RB, new WRs, several new OL. There are only 5 players from the JJ era that are starting.

He has outperformed the previous coach. How do you explain that?

 

[Disnardo]

The way most think about him, they think about JF. If the Dolphins win a SB with him at the helm, they will win it, inspite of him, instead of because of him, thats is a biased opinion...

 

[Prime Time]

Wanny was handed half a team. The offense needed a complete overhaul. New QB, new RB, new WRs, several new OL. There are only 5 players from the JJ era that are starting.

He has outperformed the previous coach. How do you explain that?

He can't. He is just another blinded Wanny Hater. He was handed a team with no LBs besides Zach. No SS. A headcase at 2nd DT. No offense what so ever. Preda he has had 2 good (playoff seasons) and 2 ok (no playoff seasons) so why jump at him? How do you know this season can't be a playoff season? Plus we have been very close numerous times If it were not for a few lucky bounces.

 

[SUPKEM]

Now you suggest Norv should have been promoted to HC but I ask you this, who do you think called for those 3 consecutive passes in that Pats game? And what has Norv done in this league that would make you believe he's more qualified than Wanny? Didn't he get canned by the Redskins because he was constantly underachieving and lost control of that team?

Yeah, I can understand that, But since when does the offensive coordinator over rule the head coach? I have to say that if Wanny knew any better, he woold have said "woah"

I gotta beleive that D. Snyder had a lot to do with the personel Norv was given in Wasington. I say that becouse of the support he seems to be getting in Oakland.
That being said, he may fail in Oakland, but it won't be becouse of lack of effort. The same can't be said about Wanny.

Didn't Marino quit becouse he felt his job was undefined? That there was no communication between the management offices? how deep does that rift go? I certinely don't want to think it goes so deep that it would affect the head coach and his offensive cordinator. Dosen't it make more scence to bring in the people who can get the job done instead of people with a big name just so you can sell tickets? ie: Marino, David Boston, and yes, Junior Seau.

I really, really, really, don't want to see the Dolphins beome the next Arizona Cardinals, But I fear your closer to that than a return to glory. and I don't want to see that

 

[phinfan2003]

Yeah, I can understand that, But since when does the offensive coordinator over rule the head coach? I have to say that if Wanny knew any better, he woold have said "woah"

I gotta beleive that D. Snyder had a lot to do with the personel Norv was given in Wasington. I say that becouse of the support he seems to be getting in Oakland.
That being said, he may fail in Oakland, but it won't be becouse of lack of effort. The same can't be said about Wanny.

Didn't Marino quit becouse he felt his job was undefined? That there was no communication between the management offices? how deep does that rift go? I certinely don't want to think it goes so deep that it would affect the head coach and his offensive cordinator. Dosen't it make more scence to bring in the people who can get the job done instead of people with a big name just so you can sell tickets? ie: Marino, David Boston, and yes, Junior Seau.

I really, really, really, don't want to see the Dolphins beome the next Arizona Cardinals, But I fear your closer to that than a return to glory. and I don't want to see that

Are you assuming that Wanny doesn't work hard? If so that's BS! You can't assume that and I can't either since we don't monitor his working hours but I'd be willing to bet the house the guy works 16 hour days.

Regarding the whole Marino fiasco, how can you blame Wanny for that? Marino was hired to oversee the performance of the GM and HC among other things so I don't get your point here? It all looks bad at this point due to all of our offseason woes but let's just let the season play itself out before we make assumptions as to whether this team is closer to the Cardinals or not.

 

[ohall]

If an when he is no longer the HC, that's when.

 

[dalmog]

I am not a DW supporter (though I refuse to call him Wanny... I don't know why!) so I couldn't answer this question. I wanted him gone really before last season. Still, I support him today and next week, etc. If Miami makes the playoffs this season I will respect the fact that they did so despite all the off-season crap.

But I still question DW's starting Fiedler the first game. Although, I don't question him having started him over Griese. I won't talk about his GMing, since that is an old story. One of my biggest problems with DW and JJ for that matter is discipline. Penalties are the norm when under Shula they used to be the exception.

Anyway, right now I have no expectations for the team. I will wait for week 4 before I make my analysis.

 

[phinfan2003]

I am not a DW supporter (though I refuse to call him Wanny... I don't know why!) so I couldn't answer this question. I wanted him gone really before last season. Still, I support him today and next week, etc. If Miami makes the playoffs this season I will respect the fact that they did so despite all the off-season crap.

But I still question DW's starting Fiedler the first game. Although, I don't question him having started him over Griese. I won't talk about his GMing, since that is an old story. One of my biggest problems with DW and JJ for that matter is discipline. Penalties are the norm when under Shula they used to be the exception.

Anyway, right now I have no expectations for the team. I will wait for week 4 before I make my analysis.

You make a few good points especially about the penalties. That is my biggest problem with Wanny's teams. They commit too many penalties and especially stupid ones. A lot of the blame for that goes to the lack of focus
from the players but some will say the fault lies upon the coaches for their lack of preparation.

As far as Shula's teams go, I don't know if that was because he was on the rules committee or his players were just that better prepared than JJ's and Wanny's

 

[SUPKEM]

Are you assuming that Wanny doesn't work hard? If so that's BS! You can't assume that and I can't either since we don't monitor his working hours but I'd be willing to bet the house the guy works 16 hour days.

i guess your right. all i know is what i see of your team on the field and from Dave in the press conferances. Still I wouldn't be incourged.

Regarding the whole Marino fiasco, how can you blame Wanny for that? Marino was hired to oversee the performance of the GM and HC among other things so I don't get your point here? It all looks bad at this point due to all of our offseason woes but let's just let the season play itself out before we make assumptions as to whether this team is closer to the Cardinals or not.

no i can't blame Dave for the Marino misque. but i gotta call a spade a spade. and the lack of communication has got to be disheartening for you guys. has Whayne H even spoken since rickey left? I certinely wouldn't hope he planns on giving Dave a pass on this season becouse he was understaffed.

 

[darkoak]

Here is what I expect from this season:

1. The team will struggle the first half of the season but should not suffer any blowouts.
2. The offensive line will get better as the season goes on
3. AJ Feeley will be looking very solid by mid-season.
4. They will be a team that nobody wants to play in the second half of the season.
5. I think they will finish between 8-8 and 10-6, with playoffs a possibility.

If this team does not show improvements as the season progresses and is tailing off at the end of the season, Wanny should be gone.

Here is what I expect from this season:

1. The team struggles all the way through the season and the minute we play the Pats or Jets we suffer our first blow-outs.
2. The offensive line is a jigsaw puzzle that never gets solved regardless of the personell we through in there.
3. AJ Feeley will look good at times but with no workable gameplan and a punt first attitude he will not pick up many wins this year.
4. They will be a team nobody wants to watch in the second half of the season.
5. I think they will finish betweem 8-8 and 6-10 with a high draft pick a possibility.

This team will not show improvements as the season progresses with Wanny as head coach and is tailing off now, Wanny should be gone.

 

[BigFinFan]

I think that any one of us on this board with a common understanding of how the game of football is played could have coached this team to an equal record over the past four years.

DW has never coached our team to win games, instead he always coaches us not to lose. Play to WIN - DAMMIT!