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Been watching these guys for a lot of years, since 1976. Long time.

Seen a lot of guys come and go. I well remember Bob Griese, the WoodStrock years, Killer Bs, all that jazz.

All I heard for over a year was TANK FOR TUA. We did. We got him. And now he’s expected to immediately shower us with Lombardis. And he isn’t. So guys are furious.

Why? I’m curious, so why?

I have NEVER seen a fan base turn on a guy the way we have turned on Tua. Not even the mid 70s Steelers, whose fans hung Bradshaw in effigy in the stands (until, of course, they got good). Now, Bradshaw is revered in Pittsburg.

A guy like Marino is a once in a lifetime deal. A guy just waltzing in and completely taking over an offense as though it was his birthright, well, that is a rare thing.

The old guys (like me) were spoiled by Dan Marino. We saw it happen. It’s possible for a rookie QB to jump in as though he was always there. Extremely rare, but possible. We know this because we watched it.

Younger guys weren’t there, but have certainly heard the stories, read the history...

I think the problem is that we are both spoiled and impatient. The 70s Dolphins were (literally) unbeatable. The Marino Dolphins were spectacular. Playoffs and AFC East titles were nearly a given.

But not so much anymore. The fan base seems to be disgruntled with Tua, since he obviously didn’t take over the offense as Marino did. But he will. Maybe at more of a Griese pace (you’ve heard of him, right?), but he’ll get there.

We weren’t going to the Super Bowl this year. However, we may get to the playoffs.

Give the kid a break.
 
It’s just the stupidity of some of the posters on here, no surprise, been going on for years
 
Bartowboy said:
Because this fan base has zero patience. And unfortunately due to the Statistical Success Justin Herbert has had this year, it’s made it even worse.
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Herbert looks to be doomed as Marino was.

An exceptional player who did not have the talent surrounding him. Not enough to win a Super Bowl.

That Marino could have won a Super Bowl, there is no question. But he needed help that was never given to him.

So the Hebert comparison makes me shrug.

Look at Trent Dilfer. That guy couldn’t carry Marino’s jockstrap.

But he had a solid team. And because of that, he has a ring...
 
multistage said:
Been watching these guys for a lot of years, since 1976. Long time.

Seen a lot of guys come and go. I well remember Bob Griese, the WoodStrock years, Killer Bs, all that jazz.

All I heard for over a year was TANK FOR TUA. We did. We got him. And now he’s expected to immediately shower us with Lombardis. And he isn’t. So guys are furious.

Why? I’m curious, so why?

I have NEVER seen a fan base turn on a guy the way we have turned on Tua. Not even the mid 70s Steelers, whose fans hung Bradshaw in effigy in the stands (until, of course, they got good). Now, Bradshaw is revered in Pittsburg.

A guy like Marino is a once in a lifetime deal. A guy just waltzing in and completely taking over an offense as though it was his birthright, well, that is a rare thing.

The old guys (like me) were spoiled by Dan Marino. We saw it happen. It’s possible for a rookie QB to jump in as though he was always there. Extremely rare, but possible. We know this because we watched it.

Younger guys weren’t there, but have certainly heard the stories, read the history...

I think the problem is that we are both spoiled and impatient. The 70s Dolphins were (literally) unbeatable. The Marino Dolphins were spectacular. Playoffs and AFC East titles were nearly a given.

But not so much anymore. The fan base seems to be disgruntled with Tua, since he obviously didn’t take over the offense as Marino did. But he will. Maybe at more of a Griese pace (you’ve heard of him, right?), but he’ll get there.

We weren’t going to the Super Bowl this year. However, we may get to the playoffs.

Give the kid a break.
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I don't think there are many here who really think Tua is a bust; I certainly don't, but what I think IS happening is a bit of trolling.

The pre-draft praise of Tua was just over the top, and there were a few who swore that he was the best prospect since... (insert whoever you want here). It was just crazy stupid.

So... given that this happened, the true trolls are attracted like flies to horseplop. The Tuaists are just SUCH easy targets. Quick to anger. Not given to much deep thought. It's like a shooting gallery for trolls.
 
So this is a thread to put down the posters here ?

It's a fan site brother and I think the many different views are cool and all opinions should be welcomed. Hope Tua does great but others maybe skeptical which is fine too

Everyone gets their say and if you disagree prove them wrong
 
multistage said:
Been watching these guys for a lot of years, since 1976. Long time.

Seen a lot of guys come and go. I well remember Bob Griese, the WoodStrock years, Killer Bs, all that jazz.

All I heard for over a year was TANK FOR TUA. We did. We got him. And now he’s expected to immediately shower us with Lombardis. And he isn’t. So guys are furious.

Why? I’m curious, so why?

I have NEVER seen a fan base turn on a guy the way we have turned on Tua. Not even the mid 70s Steelers, whose fans hung Bradshaw in effigy in the stands (until, of course, they got good). Now, Bradshaw is revered in Pittsburg.

A guy like Marino is a once in a lifetime deal. A guy just waltzing in and completely taking over an offense as though it was his birthright, well, that is a rare thing.

The old guys (like me) were spoiled by Dan Marino. We saw it happen. It’s possible for a rookie QB to jump in as though he was always there. Extremely rare, but possible. We know this because we watched it.

Younger guys weren’t there, but have certainly heard the stories, read the history...

I think the problem is that we are both spoiled and impatient. The 70s Dolphins were (literally) unbeatable. The Marino Dolphins were spectacular. Playoffs and AFC East titles were nearly a given.

But not so much anymore. The fan base seems to be disgruntled with Tua, since he obviously didn’t take over the offense as Marino did. But he will. Maybe at more of a Griese pace (you’ve heard of him, right?), but he’ll get there.

We weren’t going to the Super Bowl this year. However, we may get to the playoffs.

Give the kid a break.
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problem is they would rather him throw for a ton of yards like herbert but not win
 
fishfanmiami said:
So this is a thread to put down the posters here ?

It's a fan site brother and I think the many different views are cool and all opinions should be welcomed. Hope Tua does great but others maybe skeptical which is fine too

Everyone gets their say and if you disagree prove them wrong
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No, no...Didn’t mean to come off like that..

I meant that I am surprised that a fair amount of guys (opinions be what they may) are this quick to condemn Tua.

Gotta admit, I was hoping for Herbert during the draft. But it’s Tua, so he’s our guy.

I dunno, maybe I am putting down some posters here. But that’s OK, as my opinion is worth exactly what you paid for it. Same as theirs.

But it does seem as though some (certainly not all) guys are awfully quick to label the guy a bust.

Time will tell...
 
There have been so many haha's and fans being down on Miami QB's over the years. It is not hate. We have been questioning our QB's and their abilities since Marino. I promise it is not just Tua. But this is a perform or get replaced job. It comes with the territory. We all have the right as fans to question the decisions being made by our teams. Even when we are wrong.
 
P.S. Tyreek Hill thought Mahomes was trash! Think he has the same take now? I am certain some fans thought he was a wasted draft pick. Did it make Mahomes somehow worse? I am thinking no. Mahomes went to work! He put in time with coaches, practice, and learning the playbook. He got better. Even with all the talent he had and Tua has... he got better. I promise you, that is what ALL of us want with Tua!
 
Part of it is a trend of bad mistakes at the QB position. Brees....really we pick DC over Brees! With Tua, Herbert was picked right after him and is lighting it up. It immediately makes our front office look like idiots. I would bet that would could offer the Charges both of our 1st round picks and Tua in exchange for Herbert and they would laugh at us. Now, I really hope Tua does end up being our franchise QB. The kid is exactly what you want all players to act like. He’s a good kid but there are a lot of red flags with durability.
 
Durability was always the knock on him, but the pro Tua folks told us that he wasn't injury prone... and those ankle surgeries didn't count as real injuries.

Now, he has two more injuries... sigh...

I hope the Cultists were wrong and all of this is just a temporary bit of bad luck... even though it has lasted 3 years so far...
 
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