Cutting Dion Jordan at this point would be stupid!

[Lecanto]

I am glad that none of you who want to cut Dion Jordan are the Dolphin's GM. It totally sucks that we spent the third pick in the 1st round of the draft on him and there is no debating that. But the kid has a ton of natural talent or else he never would have been a 1st round pick. He also played OK at Oregon (good pass rusher, not very good in run defense), but the college production did not come close to warranting such a high draft pick. That said, at this point what do we have to lose by keeping him in 2016. He may have to pay his 2015 bonus back to the Dolphins, and if he doesn't have the money he will have to play for free in 2016 to pay us back for his 2015 bonus. He has a drug problem, but he is not a violent criminal. Lawrence Taylor was on cocaine most of his career and never did get help. Yet he still played awesome, so the drugs likely haven't destroyed Jordan's talent. I think he has also been misused by the coaches, as he probably should be a linebacker vs a defensive end. I wish we never picked him and did not like the pick at the time based on his actual college production (vs. his physical potential), but at this point we have very little to lose by keeping through his contract. Hopefully he gets help for his addiction and then maybe he can contribute next year. We invested the third pick in the 1st round in him, so why does everyone just want to walk away from this? Or do you just want to see him go to the Eagles for nothing and turn into a good starting player? Or maybe you and Philbin are buddies and keeping him makes you feel queasy?

 

[Dr. Phin]

So, your argument is "give him a chance...because its only drugs???"

FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[DavePornstache]

 

[Lecanto]

No my argument is we have very little to lose at this point, so why not keep him. I can't believe how so many fans get so worked up about which 5th round draft pick we should have taken, yet they actually want to cut someone who has a lot of talent. I am pissed that he got suspended for one year, but why not give him a chance? Ricky Williams came back and did well. Why can't Dion.

 

[Jeep]

There comes a time when you have to cut your losses and move on... I think we're close to that point with Jordan.. The guy simply didnt work out for us

 

[Greer17]

I am all for keeping him, but only if he can practice with the team. I would run his legs off on the scout team and have him on a crazy weight gaining regimen. If he still isn't worth putting him on the field next year, then cut him.

 

[Phishpunk@WCU]

sort of agree, we are saving $2.5m on the cap with him not being on the roster this season. make no mistake though he is a bust and i would have not no issues if the Dolphins cut him to simply save the cap space next season.

 

[LikeUntoGod]

I think we have to pay him so i'd make him work. Like lawn work. Or washing uniforms. 40 hours a week. Good benefits. Great money.

I'd expect him to say "how high?" and "how clean?"

 

[Hc90]

Id be more than happy to have this guy cut .


He is physically talented but has an IQ under 70. He's borderline retarded. Who cares about that moron .

He will forever be the biggest bust in dolphins history . Until maybe his son makes the nfl as a 6'6 physical specimen moron.

Nothing to see here let's move on .

 

[overworkedirish]

It's a good thing you created your own thread for this after posting almost the exact same post in an already active thread. Soapbox much?

 

[dlockz]

The stupid think was drafting this bust of a pick. Cutting him is the smart move

Newsflash just because u overdraft a guy because he looks good in shorts doesn't mean he is any good. There re are tons of top college players that don't do squat in nfl. Michael same was a damn good college player, probably better than jordan and he still is nothing in nfl

 

[MegaFinz]

How can you justify keeping a roster spot for a guy who has a drug problem and puts his own needs before the team. Jordan has not accomplished nothing except bringing bad publicity to the Fins. Now he can go Parasailing all day long everyday.

 

[dlockz]

How can you justify keeping a roster spot for a guy who has a drug problem and puts his own needs before the team. Jordan has not accomplished nothing except bringing bad publicity to the Fins.

3 suspensions 3 sacks what a damn stud

 

[JTC111]

I am glad that none of you who want to cut Dion Jordan are the Dolphin's GM. It totally sucks that we spent the third pick in the 1st round of the draft on him and there is no debating that. But the kid has a ton of natural talent or else he never would have been a 1st round pick.

You know who else had a ton of natural talent?
Eric Kumerow, John Bosa, Yatil Green, Jamar Fletcher, Dimitrius Underwood, Blair Thomas, Steve Emtman, Courtney Brown, Mike Mamula, Tony Mandarich, Brian Bosworth, Wendell Bryant, Tony Mandarich, Charles Rogers, Aundray Bruce... and on and on and on. First round busts are plentiful. In every case it was thought they had tons of talent.

He also played OK at Oregon (good pass rusher, not very good in run defense), but the college production did not come close to warranting such a high draft pick.

The pro game is much faster and the players much stronger. Some guys can handle that, some can't. Dion clearly is part of the latter group.

That said, at this point what do we have to lose by keeping him in 2016.

I think you're looking at it from the wrong direction. The question should be: What do we have to gain by keeping him? And the answer to that is "Very very little." It makes no sense to take up a valuable roster spot with someone who has shown no ability to refrain from using substances that he knows will result in suspensions. It has happened THREE times already. If he had all the talent in the world, it would do us no good since he's unlikely to ever play a full season.

He may have to pay his 2015 bonus back to the Dolphins, and if he doesn't have the money he will have to play for free in 2016 to pay us back for his 2015 bonus.

And just how motivated do you think he'll be when he's "playing for free"?

He has a drug problem, but he is not a violent criminal. Lawrence Taylor was on cocaine most of his career and never did get help. Yet he still played awesome, so the drugs likely haven't destroyed Jordan's talent.

LT played in a era when the league very willingly looked the other way regarding players' drug problems. That era is over. Jordan is going to be drug tested often and on a regular basis. THREE suspensions should have made that very clear to you.

I think he has also been misused by the coaches, as he probably should be a linebacker vs a defensive end.

Do they not drug test linebackers in this league? At this point, Jordan's problem isn't the position he's playing.

I wish we never picked him and did not like the pick at the time based on his actual college production (vs. his physical potential), but at this point we have very little to lose by keeping through his contract. Hopefully he gets help for his addiction and then maybe he can contribute next year. We invested the third pick in the 1st round in him, so why does everyone just want to walk away from this? Or do you just want to see him go to the Eagles for nothing and turn into a good starting player? Or maybe you and Philbin are buddies and keeping him makes you feel queasy?

What we invested is irrelevant. That was two years ago and in those two years Jordan hasn't excelled on the field and he's been suspended three times for a total of 22 games. The word to describe that is UNDEPENDABLE. Undependable players don't make a team better; they make it worse. At this point, any upside to keeping Dion Jordan is imaginary. He's not going to be great; he's not going to be good. He's going to continue to disappoint. It's time to move forward and stop pretending Jordan isn't a massive bust.

 

[NCFINFAN13]

At this point this is just an unnecessary debate.