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Before Thursday night's game, Florida manager Jack McKeon looked around the locker room at his available hitters and decided the best option for the Marlins lineup was to have pitcher Dontrelle Willis bat seventh.

It was more important to have Willis on the mound.

The left-hander with the corkscrew windup and delivery won his major league-leading 22nd game and kept Florida's NL wild-card hopes alive, allowing five hits over eight innings in a 2-1 victory over the New York Mets.

It was a win the Marlins had to have after they lost the first two games of this series. Florida remained four games behind Houston and two behind Philadelphia in the wild-card race after the Astros beat Pittsburgh 2-1 and the Phillies shut out Atlanta 4-0 in day games. All three teams have nine games to play.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/baseball/mlb/09/22/marlins.mets.thursday.ap/index.html
 
Fear pitchers who bat 7th. That's all I'm saying.
 
BAMAPHIN 22 said:
Potential Cy Young recipient and the Marlins 05 MVP... Shall I say anymore?
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It's going to be hard for him to beat Carpenter for the Cy Young. I think D-Train deserves it because he's a better all around player and he plays for a team that NEEDS him to win a lot more than the Cards need Carpenter. Unfortunately, I still think the trophy is going to Carpenter.

I guess I shouldn't really be unhappy either way. I'm a big Marlins fan but I was born and raised in St. Louis and used to bleed Cardinal red.
 
Carpenter deserves Cy Young. His year has been absolutly incredible. Any other year Dontrelle would get it but this year has been Carpenters start to finish!
 
bottom line.

Cardinals--Playoffs
Marlins--Home

Carpenter will get it.
 
Mike, you just hate the Marlins...

If Dontrelle can get discredited for a few bad starts, then so can Carpenter.

Willis: 22-9, 2.44, 225.1 IP, 155 K, 50 BB
Carpenter: 21-5, 2.71, 235.2 IP, 207 K, 50 BB

Willis could end up 24-9...say Carp ends up 22-6, the case can definitely be made for both guys. More valuable pitcher? Probably Carp, because the Cards won the division even though the Marlins would be in last without Willis. But the Cy Young is for the best pitcher, and Willis has been amazing this year.

BTW, I find it interesting that the two best pitchers had the same number of BBs with one week left in the season. For the record, Clemens has walked 59.
 
RWhitney014 said:
Mike, you just hate the Marlins...

If Dontrelle can get discredited for a few bad starts, then so can Carpenter.

Willis: 22-9, 2.44, 225.1 IP, 155 K, 50 BB
Carpenter: 21-5, 2.71, 235.2 IP, 207 K, 50 BB

Willis could end up 24-9...say Carp ends up 22-6, the case can definitely be made for both guys. More valuable pitcher? Probably Carp, because the Cards won the division even though the Marlins would be in last without Willis. But the Cy Young is for the best pitcher, and Willis has been amazing this year.

BTW, I find it interesting that the two both pitchers had the same number of BBs with one week left in the season. For the record, Clemens has walked 59.
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I don't hate the Marlins. But Carpenter is on the best team in baseball (record wise) and SHOULD win the CY YOUNG because he is the best pitcher on the best team.
 
cc will prolly not pitch the rest of the season he has got shelled his last 3 starts they will just rest him for the playoffs
 
Dontrelle deserves it...If they give it to Carpenter...they will have robbed Willis of his trophy.
 
Prime Time said:
Dontrelle deserves it...If they give it to Carpenter...they will have robbed Willis of his trophy.
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:rofl3: :rofl3: :rofl3:
 
MikeO said:
I don't hate the Marlins. But Carpenter is on the best team in baseball (record wise) and SHOULD win the CY YOUNG because he is the best pitcher on the best team.
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Actually the guys that win the Cy Young award are usually not on the best team and a lot of time the Cy Young came from teams that didn't even make the playoffs. The writers usually lend towards pitchers with good numbers on bad teams compared to pitchers with similar numbers on a good team. Some recent examples are Greg Maddux in 1992, David Cone in 1994, Pedro Martinez in 1997, Pat Hengen in 1996, Clemens in 87, 97 and 98, Ro Halladay in 2003 and those are just a few. I mean isn't it more impressive that a pitcher on a last place team has similar numbers then a pitcher on a first place team?
 
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