Daunte, Daunte, Daunte...

[Sethdaddy8]

Many Dolphin fans are painfully predictable. We cry at the first sign of trouble and paint ourselves into a corner. Granted, everyone is entitled to thier opinion, but how can fans never learn from thier mistakes? They're no better than Wanstache. How's it go?

Daunte Culpepper plays great for 54 minutes in the season opener, gasses a bit, throws 2 bad pics down the stretch, and we lose to the defending champs on the road, on ring night. Home opener: gets lousy protection and bad play calling, thus reacting with some bad plays and an under achieving performance, despite very good statistics. Coming off an injury that typically takes 2 years to heal from, he seems less than super-human. So what should we do?

Lets ruin his stability, confidence, time invested, 2nd round draft pick invested, and any cohesion achieved thus far...After 2, not completely horrific games. Brunell, Collins, Brooks, Plummer....those guys don't get yanked...but let's pull Daunte Culpepper...For what?

Joey Harrington? He's going to do better? He's going to take to this system and offensive line like white on rice? That's our answer, that's our solution?
That is the best possible thing we can do to be a better football team down the road?

The fans who feel this way are nuts. You're Wanstaches. 2 things you fans do. 1, we run into the slightest bit of trouble, and you start demanding a new QB, despite any good prior performances.
2, you paint us into a corner. The coach realizes and appeases your lamentations. The brilliant solution fails more miserably than the previous QB, and we're stuck with no confidence, no cohesion, no potential, and no solution. Guys, you don't stop pouring salt in a wound, to substitute it with battery acid.

Daunte is our future. If he is playing hurt, and risking future progress...then we seat him. We do not bench him. We need to support him. He's proven to be too good for too long in the past. We have alot invested in him, and he will be great again. If we did what moronic fans are begging for,and benched him...we would kill our future and seal a miserable fate. We'd have another Wanstache era of uncertainty and losing football.

All people are entitled to thier opinions, but true fans have the best interests of the team in mind. Of all the games I've ever been to, I have never once boo'd. What does that do but spread a lack of confidence and hurt the team. It's fine to boo, but if that's the type of fan you are, you're a selfish one. And you're not the 12th man. You're not trying to help. You cynically watch to see things get worse. And...you are entitled to be that way.

I want what's best for this team. I'm going to support Daunte Culpepper, through the good and the bad. I'm going to keep in mind that I'm not aware of all surrounding circumstances. I'm going to keep in mind that a failure execute in the trenches, or down field, or from the backfield, sometimes effects what a quarteback can do. I will try to be aware of more things, rather than follow the ball blindly, and dump everything on one man out of 22. I will not lament for a change, any change, with no regard for the future.

 

[islandah]

I think people would have a little more patience and confidence if he'd only struggled since his injury. What worries everybody is that he was struggling in Minnesota, no coming back from injury/on a new team/ developing cohesion stuff. The reality is he was not playing well for the half-season before his injury.

That being said, if we could give AJ freakin' Feeley 2 years to prove himself, I think the former probowl, record setting elite QB coming back from a thorough knee destruction on a new team might deserve a bit more than 2 games before we throw him under the bus.

 

[Brsdd]

Great post, thank you!

It has been embarrassing to be a Phin fan this past week. I thought our fans were better than that.

 

[McDolphins]

Couldnt have said it better myself. I couldnt even read the message boards earlier this week because I really could not stand to hear any week 3 doomsdayers spouting their 2 wretched cents. Good post.

 

[Sethdaddy8]

I think people would have a little more patience and confidence if he'd only struggled since his injury. What worries everybody is that he was struggling in Minnesota, no coming back from injury/on a new team/ developing cohesion stuff. The reality is he was not playing well for the half-season before his injury.

That being said, if we could give AJ freakin' Feeley 2 years to prove himself, I think the former probowl, record setting elite QB coming back from a thorough knee destruction on a new team might deserve a bit more than 2 games before we throw him under the bus.

Great points, and I agree with you. Still, I don't think Daunte's lackluster 05' start should erase all the greatness he's achieved prior.

 

[djphinfan]

Many Dolphin fans are painfully predictable. We cry at the first sign of trouble and paint ourselves into a corner. Granted, everyone is entitled to thier opinion, but how can fans never learn from thier mistakes? They're no better than Wanstache. How's it go?

Daunte Culpepper plays great for 54 minutes in the season opener, gasses a bit, throws 2 bad pics down the stretch, and we lose to the defending champs on the road, on ring night. Home opener: gets lousy protection and bad play calling, thus reacting with some bad plays and an under achieving performance, despite very good statistics. Coming off an injury that typically takes 2 years to heal from, he seems less than super-human. So what should we do?

Lets ruin his stability, confidence, time invested, 2nd round draft pick invested, and any cohesion achieved thus far...After 2, not completely horrific games. Brunell, Collins, Brooks, Plummer....those guys don't get yanked...but let's pull Daunte Culpepper...For what?

Joey Harrington? He's going to do better? He's going to take to this system and offensive line like white on rice? That's our answer, that's our solution?
That is the best possible thing we can do to be a better football team down the road?

The fans who feel this way are nuts. You're Wanstaches. 2 things you fans do. 1, we run into the slightest bit of trouble, and you start demanding a new QB, despite any good prior performances.
2, you paint us into a corner. The coach realizes and appeases your lamentations. The brilliant solution fails more miserably than the previous QB, and we're stuck with no confidence, no cohesion, no potential, and no solution. Guys, you don't stop pouring salt in a wound, to substitute it with battery acid.

Daunte is our future. If he is playing hurt, and risking future progress...then we seat him. We do not bench him. We need to support him. He's proven to be too good for too long in the past. We have alot invested in him, and he will be great again. If we did what moronic fans are begging for,and benched him...we would kill our future and seal a miserable fate. We'd have another Wanstache era of uncertainty and losing football.

All people are entitled to thier opinions, but true fans have the best interests of the team in mind. Of all the games I've ever been to, I have never once boo'd. What does that do but spread a lack of confidence and hurt the team. It's fine to boo, but if that's the type of fan you are, you're a selfish one. And you're not the 12th man. You're not trying to help. You cynically watch to see things get worse. And...you are entitled to be that way.

I want what's best for this team. I'm going to support Daunte Culpepper, through the good and the bad. I'm going to keep in mind that I'm not aware of all surrounding circumstances. I'm going to keep in mind that a failure execute in the trenches, or down field, or from the backfield, sometimes effects what a quarteback can do. I will try to be aware of more things, rather than follow the ball blindly, and dump everything on one man out of 22. I will not lament for a change, any change, with no regard for the future.

I think you make a lot of good points and being a little hypocritical at the same time,bashing mularkey after two games does not make much sense, first i think he called a great game in pittsburgh,fast uptempo getting rid of the ball quickly to receivers,it really was'nt his fault the ronnie had no room and daunte made two bad mistakes,would people be saying that he's not good if daunte does'nt throws those picks and we execute down the stretch,i say no we would have been praising him because he just went into the defending superbowl champions house,his old team and beat them strait up.

As for the buffalo game ronnie was on pace for 26 to 30 carries but if you remember we only had the ball for 3 minutes in the 3rd quarter and in the fourth were down by 16,and oh by the way daunte did not play well in this game.

Hey man i appreciate your enthusiasm but i don't think mularkey deserves any bashing whatsoever,theres a reason why this man had one of 32 jobs in the world,lets give him some time before we premature evaluate,,,ha ha

 

[phinfan_1]

Many Dolphin fans are painfully predictable. We cry at the first sign of trouble and paint ourselves into a corner. Granted, everyone is entitled to thier opinion, but how can fans never learn from thier mistakes? They're no better than Wanstache. How's it go?

Daunte Culpepper plays great for 54 minutes in the season opener, gasses a bit, throws 2 bad pics down the stretch, and we lose to the defending champs on the road, on ring night. Home opener: gets lousy protection and bad play calling, thus reacting with some bad plays and an under achieving performance, despite very good statistics. Coming off an injury that typically takes 2 years to heal from, he seems less than super-human. So what should we do?

Lets ruin his stability, confidence, time invested, 2nd round draft pick invested, and any cohesion achieved thus far...After 2, not completely horrific games. Brunell, Collins, Brooks, Plummer....those guys don't get yanked...but let's pull Daunte Culpepper...For what?

Joey Harrington? He's going to do better? He's going to take to this system and offensive line like white on rice? That's our answer, that's our solution?
That is the best possible thing we can do to be a better football team down the road?

The fans who feel this way are nuts. You're Wanstaches. 2 things you fans do. 1, we run into the slightest bit of trouble, and you start demanding a new QB, despite any good prior performances.
2, you paint us into a corner. The coach realizes and appeases your lamentations. The brilliant solution fails more miserably than the previous QB, and we're stuck with no confidence, no cohesion, no potential, and no solution. Guys, you don't stop pouring salt in a wound, to substitute it with battery acid.

Daunte is our future. If he is playing hurt, and risking future progress...then we seat him. We do not bench him. We need to support him. He's proven to be too good for too long in the past. We have alot invested in him, and he will be great again. If we did what moronic fans are begging for,and benched him...we would kill our future and seal a miserable fate. We'd have another Wanstache era of uncertainty and losing football.

All people are entitled to thier opinions, but true fans have the best interests of the team in mind. Of all the games I've ever been to, I have never once boo'd. What does that do but spread a lack of confidence and hurt the team. It's fine to boo, but if that's the type of fan you are, you're a selfish one. And you're not the 12th man. You're not trying to help. You cynically watch to see things get worse. And...you are entitled to be that way.

I want what's best for this team. I'm going to support Daunte Culpepper, through the good and the bad. I'm going to keep in mind that I'm not aware of all surrounding circumstances. I'm going to keep in mind that a failure execute in the trenches, or down field, or from the backfield, sometimes effects what a quarteback can do. I will try to be aware of more things, rather than follow the ball blindly, and dump everything on one man out of 22. I will not lament for a change, any change, with no regard for the future.

I agree....nicely written.

 

[Phanatical]

Many Dolphin fans are painfully predictable. We cry at the first sign of trouble and paint ourselves into a corner. Granted, everyone is entitled to thier opinion, but how can fans never learn from thier mistakes? They're no better than Wanstache. How's it go?

Daunte Culpepper plays great for 54 minutes in the season opener, gasses a bit, throws 2 bad pics down the stretch, and we lose to the defending champs on the road, on ring night. Home opener: gets lousy protection and bad play calling, thus reacting with some bad plays and an under achieving performance, despite very good statistics. Coming off an injury that typically takes 2 years to heal from, he seems less than super-human. So what should we do?

Lets ruin his stability, confidence, time invested, 2nd round draft pick invested, and any cohesion achieved thus far...After 2, not completely horrific games. Brunell, Collins, Brooks, Plummer....those guys don't get yanked...but let's pull Daunte Culpepper...For what?

Joey Harrington? He's going to do better? He's going to take to this system and offensive line like white on rice? That's our answer, that's our solution?
That is the best possible thing we can do to be a better football team down the road?

The fans who feel this way are nuts. You're Wanstaches. 2 things you fans do. 1, we run into the slightest bit of trouble, and you start demanding a new QB, despite any good prior performances.
2, you paint us into a corner. The coach realizes and appeases your lamentations. The brilliant solution fails more miserably than the previous QB, and we're stuck with no confidence, no cohesion, no potential, and no solution. Guys, you don't stop pouring salt in a wound, to substitute it with battery acid.

Daunte is our future. If he is playing hurt, and risking future progress...then we seat him. We do not bench him. We need to support him. He's proven to be too good for too long in the past. We have alot invested in him, and he will be great again. If we did what moronic fans are begging for,and benched him...we would kill our future and seal a miserable fate. We'd have another Wanstache era of uncertainty and losing football.

All people are entitled to thier opinions, but true fans have the best interests of the team in mind. Of all the games I've ever been to, I have never once boo'd. What does that do but spread a lack of confidence and hurt the team. It's fine to boo, but if that's the type of fan you are, you're a selfish one. And you're not the 12th man. You're not trying to help. You cynically watch to see things get worse. And...you are entitled to be that way.

I want what's best for this team. I'm going to support Daunte Culpepper, through the good and the bad. I'm going to keep in mind that I'm not aware of all surrounding circumstances. I'm going to keep in mind that a failure execute in the trenches, or down field, or from the backfield, sometimes effects what a quarteback can do. I will try to be aware of more things, rather than follow the ball blindly, and dump everything on one man out of 22. I will not lament for a change, any change, with no regard for the future.

Many homers have been saying it's the OL, the coaches, the WR's, and the refs. But this thread takes the cake, now it's the fans fault that Daunte sucks. Yeah, whatever.

 

[miami234ever]

I am a dolphin fan, but sometimes we are WAY too pushy and demanding. Who knows we could go 14-2 and maybe half of us would shut up about Joey. I had a feeling this would happen. Lets just say I'm glad Nick is head coach and not us dolphins fans.

 

[Sethdaddy8]

Many homers have been saying it's the OL, the coaches, the WR's, and the refs. But this thread takes the cake, now it's the fans fault that Daunte sucks. Yeah, whatever.

Nah dude, I'm saying its not all his fault. You wanna chase the little ball around the TV screen and assume its all his fault, because thats what the end of the play dictates, then go ahead. Hey, sit there and cry...have fun.

And I never said its the fan's fault. I just said "you type of fans" cry and moan and beg for change, without regard for the consequences. And the result is a Wanstache era.

 

[Phanatical]

Nah dude, I'm saying its not all his fault. You wanna chase the little ball around the TV screen and assume its all his fault, because thats what the end of the play dictates, then go ahead. Hey, sit there and cry...have fun.

And I never said its the fan's fault. I just said "you type of fass" cry and moan and beg for change, without regard for the consequences. And the result is a Wanstache era.

You're blaming the fans, no matter how you try and change it now. Through the years I have supported all our QB's. I thought Huard should have had the starting job, I thought Fiedler played OK (although he would have been a better backup), I thought Frerotte did an outstanding job. But Culpepper? He hasn't shown me ANYTHING. His preseason sucked, his demeanor after a bad play sucks (the fart face), and he has literally thrown two games away. It's time for him to play up to his rep or sit down, period. That ain't the fans fault.

GO PHINS~!

 

[Sethdaddy8]

I think you make a lot of good points and being a little hypocritical at the same time,bashing mularkey after two games does not make much sense, first i think he called a great game in pittsburgh,fast uptempo getting rid of the ball quickly to receivers,it really was'nt his fault the ronnie had no room and daunte made two bad mistakes,would people be saying that he's not good if daunte does'nt throws those picks and we execute down the stretch,i say no we would have been praising him because he just went into the defending superbowl champions house,his old team and beat them strait up.

As for the buffalo game ronnie was on pace for 26 to 30 carries but if you remember we only had the ball for 3 minutes in the 3rd quarter and in the fourth were down by 16,and oh by the way daunte did not play well in this game.

Hey man i appreciate your enthusiasm but i don't think mularkey deserves any bashing whatsoever,theres a reason why this man had one of 32 jobs in the world,lets give him some time before we premature evaluate,,,ha ha

Whoa, you're getting ahead of me a little brother. I am not placing blame on any single factor. I thought Mularky coached a pretty good first game, although, why we abandoned the run when down by 4 with 6 minutes left, when it was finally getting established and the Stealers were evidently fatiguing is beyond me, as was the 3rd and 2 toss play which was pretty predictable at that point. Mularky did abondon the run early in the third, which contributed to our lack of TOP in the Jills game. Down by ten with a full half to play...theres no need to have such urgency. At the same time, not taking shots down field when the run is effective was a missing element we should have used. Further, to lose to 2 teams he is thoroughly aquainted with is not a great thing. Nor is the fact that after every time out or break, we call a play that gets blown up or out-coached on. I noticed this at the Bills game. The only offensive play we didn't miserably fail on after a break was a 4 yd run up the gut. Also, that 3rd and 2 toss in Pittsburgh came off of a break where they out prepared us. I still have faith in Mularkey though and think things will turn around. However, after reading my post, I can't see how you thought I "bashed" him. If that's how you interpret it though, it was not my intention. I simply am calling for support for Daunte, who as of now, seems to be all alone under the microscope.

I tried to spread all the blame around, and I think that is pretty fair. I do not deny being a hippocrite...we're all hippocrites at some point in our lives. But those who acknowledge that fact are the lesser of the evils.

 

[RenoFinFan]

Great points, and I agree with you. Still, I don't think Daunte's lackluster 05' start should erase all the greatness he's achieved prior.

All the greatness he has achieved??? Oh that is right in 2004 in Minnesota...Hello...this is 2006 and he is in Miami. Daunte has achieved a new level of patheticness we have not seen at the QB postion. That is hard to do considering the QBs we have had since Marino retired.

Perhaps some of us didn't develop a "man crush" on Daunte in the offseason and waited to see how he would play...in 2006 in Miami. And we don't really care what he did in 2004 or prior in Minnesota. It was asked can Joey play better? the answer is YES! It would be hard not to. Did you watch him play? Poor reads resulting in interceptions, holds on to ball too long resulting in sacks, drops ball when not even touched, throws into quadruple coverage, no mobility, does not step into throws resulting in missing open receivers, throws short on third and long which enhances stats but results in punt, level of play goes down when game is on the line...

Apparently this view means I am not a "true" fan. Maybe, I care more about the Dolphins as a "team" and not "one" player who has a total of two games played for the Dolphins. But then again I did not fall in love with Daunte in the offseason. I decided to reserve my judgment for when he played in games that counted.

 

[Sethdaddy8]

You're blaming the fans, no matter how you try and change it now. Through the years I have supported all our QB's. I thought Huard should have had the starting job, I thought Fiedler played OK (although he would have been a better backup), I thought Frerotte did an outstanding job. But Culpepper? He hasn't shown me ANYTHING. His preseason sucked, his demeanor after a bad play sucks (the fart face), and he has literally thrown two games away. It's time for him to play up to his rep or sit down, period. That ain't the fans fault.

GO PHINS~!

I blame a very particular sect of the fans for being poor. I do not blame fans for any on field production or lack there of. For you to misconstrue this is beyond me... but I cannot read for you. You'll think what you think. It is this same type of black and white thinking that has everyone blaming one cog in a multi-faceted wheel though. Daunte had a limited pre-season with no turn-overs. To say it sucked is ridiculous and misinformed. His dejection after a bad play can be expected...however its not as bad as you write. To blame him for the 2 losses is insane, and states nothing more than your stance on this subject. I'm curious, what do you propose...start Joey and have him lead us to the promise land? Is that what's best for our future? Is that what would happen?

 

[LoneWulF]

great post. and people who are concerned with him not playing well his last season in minnesota need to be realistic. culpepper was a probowler the year before, then he loses
1. randy moss
2. starting o linemen
3. offensive coordinator.
thats a lot to lose in one year. it basically makes you a rookie qb all over. new offense, new recievers, who all by the way sucked. and the runningback sucked too