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Dave Hyde: Dolphins didn't see Flynn as a franchise QB

JFoxx said:
What don't you understand about several comments and articles stating that we weren't really interested in Flynn. The stories we are commenting on is concerning this PR attempt of somehow saying we weren't really interested in him and that by us letting him walk to Seattle. THE POINT was that if we really didn't have an interest in him, and we knew all about him from Philbin's experience (which has been pointed out numerous times), and we would have known what he wanted for $$ by just talking on the phone to his agent, why waste everyone's time for an extended interview and contract talks and deal with a PR nightmare with your fanbase, if you had no real interest in him? Anything else I've heard as a counter then leads me to believe we did have an interest, but at the right price. ?????? So we thought he might have been the answer if we could get him cheap? We want a frachise QB at bargain price of a backup LG.
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We were not interested in him as a FRANCHISE QB because HE ISNT...And how is it a waste of time to bring anyone in have an extended conversation and talk contract? If you can get someone at their REAL VALUE and not the VALUE the fans, agents and media actually say he is valued at...Just think again as I stated LAST NIGHT...if We signed him to a nice size contract, and he bombed after the first 3 weeks, everyone would STILL be ripping Philbin, Ireland and Ross for throwing all this money at a bum QB...
 
registeredguy said:
I don't know, but I think it's possible that this was a big smokescreen. Judging by the comments that Flynn's dad made, I do buy the notion that Miami pretty much just wasn't that interested in him.
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For whatever reason most brought into Flynn because Philbin was hired but the truth is maybe he is just a career backup.
 
The team's getting deserved black eyes left and right. I agree with whoever said last week that they should hire a spin doctor PR person and speak through them. However, it would be a worse black eye paying Flynn starter money, having him falter without his offensive machine.. in front of an already skeptical, expectant and impatient fanbase with maybe a better QB sitting on the bench, costing 25% of what Flynn cost and not being given a fair opportunity to compete for the starting job. I for one would be irate in that scenario.
 
As per Mike Lombardi on NFL TA, he said no matter how the Fins try to spin this it did not go the way they wanted and they have put themselves in a very difficult position.

FWIW
 
I'm trying to remain optimistic here, so I'll just say that bringing in David Garrard on the cheap could actually be a good move if we do plan to draft a QB. It would make us look like morons, but maybe if teams think we're stupid enough, they won't be as likely to jump in front of us if our plan is to draft Tannehill.

Yeah, I'm reaching.
 
I think this whole thing is not as bad as it seems...Manning was a long shot for us and in the end, it may be best for us that we did not get him. He was not a good long term solution. So take Manning out of the picture and we're left with Flynn. It's obvious Philbin and co. didn't have that high of an opinion of him. We have to trust Philbin's judgement on this. He knows him better than anyone. With that in mind, I'd like to applaud our staff for not jumping at the guy 'everyone' thought would be the best fit, when Philibin knows exactly what he'd be getting with Flynn. Especially knowing that this would not sit well with the fan base and create the uproar that they're dealing with now. I could be wrong, as I am many times, but I have a feeling that they weighed out who'd be better for us long term Flynn or a draft guy, say Tannehill. The answer is clear. They felt that building through the draft is a better option. In the end, it may well be.
 
if thats true they shouldn't have brought him in...period

i think personally these guys got no damn clue what direction they want to go in...none...

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registeredguy said:
I'm trying to remain optimistic here, so I'll just say that bringing in David Garrard on the cheap could actually be a good move if we do plan to draft a QB. It would make us look like morons, but maybe if teams think we're stupid enough, they won't be as likely to jump in front of us if our plan is to draft Tannehill.

Yeah, I'm reaching.
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you are reaching...
 
*Demi*God* said:
We were not interested in him as a FRANCHISE QB because HE ISNT...And how is it a waste of time to bring anyone in have an extended conversation and talk contract? If you can get someone at their REAL VALUE and not the VALUE the fans, agents and media actually say he is valued at...Just think again as I stated LAST NIGHT...if We signed him to a nice size contract, and he bombed after the first 3 weeks, everyone would STILL be ripping Philbin, Ireland and Ross for throwing all this money at a bum QB...
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Ok, so then the talk about finally getting a true franchise QB and solving the problem at the position that's been ignored for so long was a lie? And don't go with the draft excuse, because any QB worth getting in the draft will be gone by the second pick. Anything after that is a big maybe and would by a project in maybe a couple years. I don't want to continue this back and forth, it's pointless because you are guessing just as much as I am. My point is, don't mindlessly believe everything that's fed to us as being true because history has shown us repeatedly that it's not. So we can agree to disagree on this if you like.
 
Matty Moore took over a 0-7 team and went 6-3, and got his team mates behind him. Outside of Manning I was more then happy going into next season as our starter...

Smith, Garrad or any other QB they bring in will compete as the started with Matt and we'll most likely draft somebody this year to groom for the future. Who knows, Matt Moore might actually get us to the play offs and all this QB talk will be moot...

Either way, I'm okay with rebuilding, I just want stability in a head coach.
 
Im OK with not signing Flynn. I thought with the moves thusfar, that well be transitioning to the WCO. But Ill trust Philbins input on this one.

What I DONT understand is that they're bringing in Alex Smith and Garrard!!?? If you're not going to sign Flynn and didn't have a chance on Manning (and not spend the money on these guys), wouldn't it have made more sense to not miss out on some of the other bigger name FAs that have already signed (WR, G, OT).

You just don't go out and spend that kind of money on Smith and or Gerrard!!! Better to stand pat and roll with Moore, draft a Tannehill early (May be gone now if Cleveland nabs him at 4) or Weeden. Spend the FA money on other important pieces.



Just my .02
 
I don’t for a second believe Miami didn’t want Flynn. You don’t bring a backup in as your first official QB visit. All signs pointed to him being a fit in Miami. Something scared him away.. Perhaps it was just money but I think there’s more to it.
 
JFoxx said:
I will say it once again. If we truly didn't have any interest in him and believe he could be our starting/franchise QB, then why did we waste our time bringing him in for an interview and make a contract offer??? I know the OP is just posting what was reported, but my response is to those who are trying to sell this story. Sounds more like we were interested, but were trying to save some bucks in the process and got called on it.
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We could have easily outbid Seattle if we realy wanted him. Why didn't we outbid Seattle?
 
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