David Cornwell’s statement regarding Jonathan Martin

[dlockz]

He needs a Free Ritchie hat for the collection.

When all is said and done he may need a free Pouncey hat lol

 

[Cleetus]

As far as Martin's VM and texts being released- They might release them to the investigator when the time comes, then again they might not have saved them

 

[dlockz]

The only people who pull off lawsuits about bad work place conditions are woman who file sexual harassment. And even for them it's pretty tough.

Martin has nothing here, his lawyer parents dug him into hole, and they dint have a clue how to get out.

not sure why everyone is blaming the parents in this This is on Martin and maybe InCognito

 

[Jets4eva]

This is the best article that shed some light into the dynamic of this situation.

Martin walked into twisted world

He confronted an unrelenting, prison yard mentality in the Miami locker room


Updated: November 8, 2013, 9:00 AM ET
By Jason Whitlock | ESPN.com


Mass incarceration has turned segments of Black America so upside down that a tatted-up, N-word-tossing white goon is more respected and accepted than a soft-spoken, highly intelligent black Stanford graduate.

According to a story in the Miami Herald, black Dolphins players granted Richie Incognito "honorary" status as a black man while feeling little connection to Jonathan Martin.
Welcome to Incarceration Nation, where the mindset of the Miami Dolphins' locker room mirrors the mentality of a maximum-security prison yard and where a wide swath of America believes the nonviolent intellectual needs to adopt the tactics of the barbarian.

I don't blame Jonathan Martin for walking away from the Dolphins and checking himself into a hospital seeking treatment for emotional distress. The cesspool of insanity that apparently is the Miami locker room would test the mental stability of any sane man. Martin, the offspring of Harvard grads, a 24-year-old trained at some of America's finest academic institutions, is a first-time offender callously thrown into an Attica prison cell with Incognito and Aaron Hernandez's BFF Mike Pouncey. Dolphins warden Jeff Ireland and deputy warden Joe Philbin put zero sophisticated thought into what they were doing when they drafted Martin in the second round in 2012.

You don't put Jonathan Martin in a cell with Incognito and Pouncey. You draft someone else, and let another team take Martin. The Dolphins don't have the kind of environment to support someone with Martin's background. It takes intelligence and common sense to connect with and manage Martin. Those attributes appear to be in short supply in Miami.

"Richie is honorary," a black former Dolphins player told Miami Herald reporter Armando Salguero. "I don't expect you to understand because you're not black. But being a black guy, being a brother is more than just about skin color. It's about how you carry yourself. How you play. Where you come from. What you've experienced. A lot of things."

I'm black. And I totally understand the genesis of this particular brand of stupidity and self-hatred. Mass Incarceration, its bastard child, Hurricane Illegitimacy, and their marketing firm, commercial hip-hop music, have created a culture that perpetrates the idea that authentic blackness is criminal, savage, uneducated and irresponsible. The tenets of white supremacy and bigotry have been injected into popular youth culture. The blackest things a black man can do are loudly spew the N-word publicly and react violently to the slightest sign of disrespect or disagreement.

Yeah, Richie Incognito is an honorary black. And Jonathan Martin is a sellout.

"I don't have a problem with Richie," Dolphins receiver Mike Wallace was quoted in Salguero's story. "I love Richie."

Yeah, the Dolphins are circling the wagons around Incognito. I get Ryan Tannehill's defense of his Pro Bowl left guard. He needs him. He doesn't believe the Dolphins can protect him or win games without Incognito. There's a popular belief you can't consistently win football games without a few "thugs" like Incognito in your locker room. Makes you wonder how Stanford competes with USC, Oregon, UCLA, etc., every year. You wonder how Nebraska and Oregon survived after booting Incognito. You wonder why three NFL teams let him go. Maybe he's not as essential as the myth-makers would have you believe.

But what makes me want to check into a mental hospital is Miami's black players' unconditional love of Incognito and indifference to Martin.

It points to our fundamental lack of knowledge of our own history in this country. We think the fake tough guy, the ex-con turned rhetoric spewer was more courageous than the educated pacifist who won our liberation standing in the streets, absorbing repeated ass-whippings, jail and a white assassin's bullet. We fell for the okeydoke.

We think Malcolm X was blacker than Martin Luther King Jr.

I'm as guilty as anybody. I've read X's autobiography a half-dozen times. I own Spike Lee's movie about X and watch it a couple of times a year. I love Malcolm X. But I'm not an idiot. MLK liberated me. MLK blazed the proper path to respect, progress and achievement. Barack Obama stands on MLK's shoulders. And so does Jonathan Martin.

Richie Incognito is an "honorary" bigot, standing on the shoulders of Gov. George Wallace. The fact that a group of young black men in the Dolphins' locker room can't see that speaks to the level of ignorance unleashed by Mass Incarceration, Hurricane Illegitimacy and commercial hip-hop.

Too many young people have grown up. There's a difference between growing up and being raised. When you grow up, you're left to figure things out on your own. That's why we have a generation of young people who can't recognize the self-hatred and damage of describing yourself as the N-word. They don't know what they haven't been taught. Video games, iPads and headphones can't raise a child. But those technological advances can entertain and empower popular culture to corrupt.

I don't know Jonathan Martin. He's biracial. He was apparently smart enough to qualify for entry into Harvard. He's huge and athletic. He strikes me as someone ripe to struggle with his identity.

The Dolphins tagged him the "Big Weirdo." The Dolphins held up Richie Incognito as the ultimate role model for offensive linemen. Incognito was a Pro Bowler. He was a member of the six-man leadership council. It makes perfect sense for a kid like Martin to befriend Incognito and try to fit in. I'm sure they were best friends, for a time. I'm sure Incognito offered Martin physical protection on the football field. It's standard operating procedure for a prison-yard bully to cultivate a relationship that is equal parts fear, love and disrespect. It's how you turn a guy out and make him grab your belt loop.

Martin was confused. He probably thought the bullying and hazing would pass after his rookie season. He wanted to fit in and make it in the NFL. The paycheck is incredible. He tried to laugh off the abuse and disrespect. He participated in it. He coughed up $15,000 for a trip to Las Vegas he didn't want to take.

Finally he snapped. He wasn't raised to be a full-blown idiot. He was raised to think and solve problems with his mind. He was savvy enough to figure out a physical confrontation with Incognito was a no-win situation. It wouldn't curb Incognito's behavior or change the culture inside the Miami locker room. It would confirm it. In order to win the fight, Martin would have to physically harm Incognito. It would not be a one-punch or two-punch fight.

Martin walked. If the entry fee to being an NFL offensive lineman is adopting the mindset of Incognito and Pouncey, Martin wisely chose not to pay it. He has a developed brain and a supportive family unit. He's not desperate. He has options. People with limited options and no family support may not understand or respect his decision. That's on them and illustrates the vast impact of Mass Incarceration and Hurricane Illegitimacy.

It's now time for Roger Goodell to render a verdict on wardens Ireland and Philbin and Cell Block D leader Incognito. The world is so upside down that I half expect Goodell to suspend Martin for conduct detrimental to American idiocy.

 

[Fish-Head]

I wish somebody would air Martins texts and voicemails. I'm sure he said some of the same stuff. if he did how are you going to say ooo he was just trying to fit in but was scared to speak up

They've already said it... I find it hard to believe that Richie's legal team would have been so stupid as to not put that out there by now... If there was some kind of damning evidence... They should have aired it Day ONE... Otherwise, they effectively allowed Martin to establish this argument...

Also, Keep in mind Martin has been saving damaging material... In all likelihood he has both sides of the convo's... including HIS sent messages... His team has already had time to prepare responses... At this point I doubt there is little to any 'smoking guns' in Richie's possession... But who knows.

 

[darefugee]

Im not Jon martin. I have never been bullied. Obviouly he has issues. I would already be an outcast because I would have neve had allowed them to give me some dumb azz haircut. I woudnt pay for thier damn dinner or carried thier shoulder pads.
I also would not be hanging with a drunken idiot like Ritchie InCognito. .would bust my azz and play my azz off. i cant put myself in his shoes because maybe he is a withdrawn person. Even in the video you can see he is not a wild person like some of the other players.
I also would not engage in people calling other people the n word even in a joking manner because I realize its not joke word.
What you fail to realize is that not all people are the same. Martin obviously has an issue and at some point the investigator will see if there is really something there. I dont know and you dont know.
Like I said he could be gay we are dealing wiith a bunch of unknowns but yet people take sides. I think something happened but have no clue. Im not sure its as bad as hazing but I do think he did not like some of the racial stuff which is his right. I think he has a personality disoder which makes it difficult to deal with such issues. This is just what I think.

C'mon, are you kidding? If I had the size and the talent to play shoulder to shoulder with those guys, I would. For the chance to play in the NFL, I would endure that s**t. I would take the haircut, and the rookie dinnerz, and all the rest. I would take the vile, foul insults and give back better than they could throw at me. But then, I ain't Jon Martin - I've seen how bad things can be.

 

[nick1]

As far as Martin's VM and texts being released- They might release them to the investigator when the time comes, then again they might not have saved them

I'm sure you can contact the phone company and recover past texts and voicemails

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

I'm sure you can contact the phone company and recover past texts and voicemails

Richie's camp has already said that they do have some messages from Martin... that are going to be used as evidence.

 

[natetherock]

This is the best article that shed some light into the dynamic of this situation.

Sorry I couldn't finish reading the entire article. Obama and Martin should never be mentioned in the same sentence as MLK.

Unless of course that sentence reads "obama and martin should never be mentioned in the same sentence as MLK" haha

 

[NCFINFAN13]

not sure why everyone is blaming the parents in this This is on Martin and maybe InCognito

I do because this has lawyer prints all over it from the start. IMO.

 

[nick1]

Richie's camp has already said that they do have some messages from Martin... that are going to be used as evidence.

why not release them I wonder, Martin aired some that he had. airing Martin's would squash it right now

 

[ED AminJoeGreen]

Victims normally do something to make the maltreatment stop ASAP. Other courses of action are the exceptions to the rule.

See here:

http://workplacebullying.org/multi/pdf/WBIsurvey2007.pdf

The minority (40%) took no action.

Thanks very much for looking that up, I will return the favor anytime you ask. I would say that your stats don't back up your statement "Victims normally do something..." 40% not doing anything in my opinion would normalize Martins behavior. He is not an outlier or an anomaly. Another stat from the study shows that 3% file lawsuits. That again refutes part of the narrative I keep reading (not from you), that this is somehow about a payday.

The gist of my point is that I am seeing a lot of people assign motive based on behavior and for me I struggled to see the connection. I also question anyone's ability to know other peoples motives.

*edited to add: I was incorrect in stating you would find the opposite of your thoughts, 40% was close but not the majority.

 

[Fish-Head]

Thanks very much for looking that up, I will return the favor anytime you ask. I would say that your stats don't back up your statement "Victims normally do something..." 40% not doing anything in my opinion would normalize Martins behavior. He is not an outlier or an anomaly. Another stat from the study shows that 3% file lawsuits. That again refutes part of the narrative I keep reading (not from you), that this is somehow about a payday.

The gist of my point is that I am seeing a lot of people assign motive based on behavior and for me I struggled to see the connection. I also question anyone's ability to know other peoples motives.

Come on bro... Common sense is not welcome here!!!!

 

[Shouright]

Thanks very much for looking that up, I will return the favor anytime you ask. I would say that your stats don't back up your statement "Victims normally do something..." 40% not doing anything in my opinion would normalize Martins behavior. He is not an outlier or an anomaly. Another stat from the study shows that 3% file lawsuits. That again refutes part of the narrative I keep reading (not from you), that this is somehow about a payday.

The gist of my point is that I am seeing a lot of people assign motive based on behavior and for me I struggled to see the connection. I also question anyone's ability to know other peoples motives.

*edited to add: I was incorrect in stating you would find the opposite of your thoughts, 40% was close but not the majority.

Right. My only point was that it shouldn't be expected for him to take bullying or harassment without responding in any way. Hell, even the general population, let alone professional football players, protests more often than not at least in some way.

 

[natetherock]

Thanks very much for looking that up, I will return the favor anytime you ask. I would say that your stats don't back up your statement "Victims normally do something..." 40% not doing anything in my opinion would normalize Martins behavior. He is not an outlier or an anomaly. Another stat from the study shows that 3% file lawsuits. That again refutes part of the narrative I keep reading (not from you), that this is somehow about a payday.

The gist of my point is that I am seeing a lot of people assign motive based on behavior and for me I struggled to see the connection. I also question anyone's ability to know other peoples motives.

*edited to add: I was incorrect in stating you would find the opposite of your thoughts, 40% was close but not the majority.

I do agree with a lot of what you said. I don't think the 3% statistic shows that he is not looking for a payday. The drastic minority of that figure shows, at least to me, that lawsuits are not the normal response for a bullied person. That small of a figure could suggest that the 3% who do file are those that have an alterior motive or are "sue happy." I think all the stat shows is that bullied individuals in general are not sue happy but I don't think much can be known about the intentions of the 3% who pursue lawsuits.