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Death of an Optimist

Whats so disappointing to me is not that we are 0 and 2. Its how we lost these past two games. Why are so many players not on the same page, it looks like we didnt even have presseason. Out defensiveline is getting no interior pressure, our DBs are making mental mistakes. We get in the red zone and our offense looks so unsure of itself. What a horrible display the past two games. smh
 
I think the national pundits knew more than you think. I think the big difference is their ability to be objective about things that the common fan around here, no matter how closely they follow the Dolphins, could not be objective about.

You're always going to be able to find a devil's advocate angle for every single issue. Every single one. But just because it's there, doesn't mean it's right. The difference is that the national pundits, Las Vegas, bettors, all those people...didn't insist on finding all those devil's advocate angles, in order to make the Dolphins out to be better. They viewed things a little more objectively.

Vegas isn't out to lose money. They're not always right, but they're good at what they do, and yes they know at least as much as the every day FinHeaven poster does about the Dolphins.

Yea but these sources and insiders, don't know that vontae davis is poorly conditioned, dansby was injury prone, pro bowl dan carp would miss high school FGs, the defense was our weak link, and that Nolan carroll would be involved in 80% of the defensive snaps. I agree that the analyst throw crap at the wall half the time.

Plus we probably played the best team in football and the 3-4 seed in the AFC playoffs. Miscues and Injury played a pretty big/major role. I think we can clean up a little.
 
The key to the rest of the season will be if the players will play for this staff. Judging by the late game performances the past two weeks, I dont think so. They've lost faith, or perhaps never had it to begin with.

Now, normally on a good team the players have enough heart, pride, and leadership to play for themselves, even if the coaching sux (they then secretly goto the owners and ask for a new coach). But, the Dolphins don't have enough solid franchise-type leadership to pull that off. No one is really there to take ownership; almost like EVERYONE is a journeyman.

Most everyone is a castoff, introverted (or some social disorder), quiet, retiring on Sobe, or just passing through. A typical Parcells-like team; just sit there, do your job, and shutup. Ok, that's nice... but when the front office fails there's no one left to take over.

See how Ray Lewis takes over his team when needed? That's what we need in Miami... good luck with that

As for personnel decisions, Miami has a history of playing it safe in the draft and FA. They want guys who can play immediately (with little coaching), but dont want to invest in playmakers. They then dont gameplan for the talent/situation they have; they're just vanilla (as every opposing team has said about the dolphins). This philosophy has produced crap players every year even when the players should do well.

You need firey, explosive young talent on teams and beasts who will take responsibility. You then supplement that with late-round talent that fits what you're trying to do, then coach em up. You DONT consistently play it safe every year, year after year after year like you're just trying to keep your job.

As for coaching/GM? The owner needs to have a meeting with the Captains, sit em down, and ask them truthfully what the team needs. Owner then needs to go out and produce the solution, then the players can own up to the choice. Owners like Kraft, Jones, and Blank (as you saw tonite) are hands-on enough to get stuff like that done. Ross?? he's just your typical Miami scumbag developer that gives f*ckall about the players really. EVERY SoFla ownership is like this, 'cept for Mickey and that's only because his father died and he took personal direct interest/control of the team... practically breaking himself in the process rebuilding the team and building the brand.

Done? I've been done since Huizenga took ownership... pfft You "homers" from the past 20yrs. have always been a joke to me actually. :err: I never, EVER, expected this franchise to return to the ways of Joe Robbie. The culture just hasn't been there. And this is not my opinion, it's just facts as they've been told to me year after year from guys who came through the organization. MadDog (RIP) alluded to this many many times even on the radio occasionally, which got him into trouble and eventually fired.

JJ gave faint hope but then lost his players after slave-driving them into the ground before the blowout Jags loss... then cited "burnout" as his reason for retiring, but not after taking Marino down too soon in his career. Huizenga then proceeded to allow the team to decline (washing his hands of the team) whilst he raked it in at the gate and from the Marlins lease. Simple as that.

It's all basically up to Ross. He'll either be the ridiculous showman scumbag like he seems to be, or he'll be a true sportsman NFL owner. Dont bet on the latter.
 
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What really kills optimism for me is watching the same problems re-occurring season after season. When you watch all of this team's games, you realize that they actually have to be practically perfect to score a touchdown. They have to work so hard to get into the red zone, because the defense and return game never gives the offense a short field. When they finally get to the red zone, usually after 10 plays, they are out of ideas. Henne is not accurate enough to throw inside the 10 or 5 yard line, his passes always seem to be a few feet or inches off, which in the tight spaces means everything. The running game stalls - it's only worked in the wildcat over the past few years. So, we don't pass well enough, we can't run, we get silly penalties, like illegal substitutions, and long 10-12 play drives end in FGs. Invariably, the other team immediately takes the ball and rams it down our defense's collective throat and scores a TD within 2-3 minutes. And at that point, you know the game is over. This has happened too many times to count over the past 3 years. Our idiot head coach keeps talking about "chunk yardage" and we never do anything to actually accomplish that goal. Drafting a fast WR in the 4th round does not count. Brandon Marshall was always more of a possession guy. Reggie Bush, despite his perceived reputation, was not one to make big plays. one guy that could occasionally get "chunk yardage" in the return game - Tedd Ginn - was thrown away.
 
The key to the rest of the season will be if the players will play for this staff. Judging by the late game performances the past two weeks, I dont think so. They've lost faith, or perhaps never had it to begin with.

Now, normally on a good team the players have enough heart, pride, and leadership to play for themselves, even if the coaching sux (they then secretly goto the owners and ask for a new coach). But, the Dolphins don't have enough solid franchise-type leadership to pull that off. No one is really there to take ownership; almost like EVERYONE is a journeyman.

Most everyone is a castoff, introverted (or some social disorder), quiet, retiring on Sobe, or just passing through. A typical Parcells-like team; just sit there, do your job, and shutup. Ok, that's nice... but when the front office fails there's no one left to take over.

See how Ray Lewis takes over his team when needed? That's what we need in Miami... good luck with that

As for personnel decisions, Miami has a history of playing it safe in the draft and FA. They want guys who can play immediately (with little coaching), but dont want to invest in playmakers. They then dont gameplan for the talent/situation they have; they're just vanilla (as every opposing team has said about the dolphins). This philosophy has produced crap players every year even when the players should do well.

You need firey, explosive young talent on teams and beasts who will take responsibility. You then supplement that with late-round talent that fits what you're trying to do, then coach em up. You DONT consistently play it safe every year, year after year after year like you're just trying to keep your job.


As for coaching/GM? The owner needs to have a meeting with the Captains, sit em down, and ask them truthfully what the team needs. Owner then needs to go out and produce the solution, then the players can own up to the choice. Owners like Kraft, Jones, and Blank (as you saw tonite) are hands-on enough to get stuff like that done. Ross?? he's just your typical Miami scumbag developer that gives f*ckall about the players really. EVERY SoFla ownership is like this, 'cept for Mickey and that's only because his father died and he took personal direct interest/control of the team... practically breaking himself in the process rebuilding the team and building the brand.

Done? I've been done since Huizenga took ownership... pfft You "homers" from the past 20yrs. have always been a joke to me actually. :err: I never, EVER, expected this franchise to return to the ways of Joe Robbie. The culture just hasn't been there. And this is not my opinion, it's just facts as they've been told to me year after year from guys who came through the organization. MadDog (RIP) alluded to this many many times even on the radio occasionally, which got him into trouble and eventually fired.

JJ gave faint hope but then lost his players after slave-driving them into the ground before the blowout Bills loss... then cited "burnout" as his reason for retiring, but not after taking Marino down too soon in his career. Huizenga then proceeded to allow the team to decline (washing his hands of the team) whilst he raked it in at the gate and from the Marlins lease. Simple as that.

It's all basically up to Ross. He'll either be the ridiculous showman scumbag like he seems to be, or he'll be a true sportsman NFL owner. Dont bet on the latter.

this is an excellent first post, you're very well versed in the sport and understand the underlying problems with this team (that so few pay attention to as they don't know what to look for to begin with). And there's a lot of truth behind your post that the blind homers need to hammer down to come closer to reality.

welcome to the board.

I'm glad I bet big money on the under when vegas had Miami at 7.5 wins this year about 3 weeks before the season ( vegas then moved the line to 7-flat so i got in at the right time with the 7.5). I could see this epic disaster coming this year from a mile away... there were so many signs that this team was going to wash out and quit earlier than last year..

lame duck Head coach who is clueless and has no game management skills whatsoever, a very overrated defense that had a bloated ranking last year as they faced and got lucky to face backup QB's and only performed very well against bottom of the barrel QB-led teams last season, and then of course a poor offensive line and a mediocre at best QB... And of course the intangible (but VERY important) points that you brought up when it comes to the "deep-rooted" make up and underpinnings of this team.

The bottom line is this is a poorly constructed team with poor coaching... and I'm glad I put my money where my mouth is to collect a large sum of money when the Dolphins don't see 8 wins this year.. because it just aint happening, for a wide variety of valid reasons
 
I actually think we have enough young talent to attract a good Head Coach. But the fins always find ways to screw things up so we will have to wait and see I suppose.
 
What really kills optimism for me is watching the same problems re-occurring season after season. When you watch all of this team's games, you realize that they actually have to be practically perfect to score a touchdown. They have to work so hard to get into the red zone, because the defense and return game never gives the offense a short field. When they finally get to the red zone, usually after 10 plays, they are out of ideas. Henne is not accurate enough to throw inside the 10 or 5 yard line, his passes always seem to be a few feet or inches off, which in the tight spaces means everything. The running game stalls - it's only worked in the wildcat over the past few years. So, we don't pass well enough, we can't run, we get silly penalties, like illegal substitutions, and long 10-12 play drives end in FGs. Invariably, the other team immediately takes the ball and rams it down our defense's collective throat and scores a TD within 2-3 minutes. And at that point, you know the game is over. This has happened too many times to count over the past 3 years. Our idiot head coach keeps talking about "chunk yardage" and we never do anything to actually accomplish that goal. Drafting a fast WR in the 4th round does not count. Brandon Marshall was always more of a possession guy. Reggie Bush, despite his perceived reputation, was not one to make big plays. one guy that could occasionally get "chunk yardage" in the return game - Tedd Ginn - was thrown away.

You aren't entirely wrong, but we have been picking up more chunk yardage these two games than before. The problem is that our chunks are still 30 yard gains to the 15 or 30, instead of 50-70 yarders taken to the house.
 
I actually think we have enough young talent to attract a good Head Coach. But the fins always find ways to screw things up so we will have to wait and see I suppose.

I wouldn't trust Ross to recommend me a sushi restaurant, much less to pick out a qualified head coach.
 
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We are so ****ed...

Time to force choke some beetches!

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Skape.....there is no victory in losing, and I take no pleasure in being as negative as I've been. I want this team to win, I guess Don Shula spoiled me, just as Patriots fans are now being spoiled by Belichek.

I thought the evidence was clear Sparano and company needed to go at the end of last season, they were retained...and I had little faith in a rebound.

In all my years of watching this game, I've never seen a team quit on a coach like they did Sparano at the end of last season, then turn around and play hard for him. So I thought we were wasting more time and it pissed me off.

Maybe we have to hit rock bottom to finally get this thing turned around....I thought 1-15 was it a few years ago.....but it wasn't.

We need to get the right people running this team, and we need to find an elite quarterback.
 
This is what happens when the blinders come off and you accept reality. You're right that there is no victory for anyone but I think it's petty baiting of you to still throw in that snide remark about the "doom and gloomers puffing their chests". I cancelled my season tickets this year because I saw this coming. I despise being right about this. When we lose at home and I have to make that million mile walk of shame from my seat to the parking lot and get taunted the entire way by opposing team's fans who filled half our stadium, that **** isn't fun. I want to break their faces. There is no enjoyment derived from being mired in a decade of mediocrity where it's the same crap every year. The faces change but the results are the same, being light years away from winning a Super Bowl. I'm Miami, 305, Dade-County, I live this; my city, my team. But I've grown weary from it all, fading like this franchise's former prestige. The years since the last one keep adding up and all I've grown to witness is futility. It simply sucks.
 
Im sure I can speak for all us "realists" when I say welcome to the realization of the Miami Dolphins. Its good good to have some homers because they equal out us realists. Sorry to hear your hope is gone, but in that you are joining a large fanbase whi's hope has been gone since the 3rd quarter of the 2010 season.

Also, it isnt a negative that this regime needs to be blown up again, it is a positive. When that happens, we can all begin to be hopeful again. There is ZERO hope for the current regime and only a new regime will bring some semblance of hope back.

I have been called a "homer" by many of the FH regulars throughout the years. What many call realism, I call pessimism. However, history has tended to favor the negative view of this team moreso than the hopeful view. I have been on the wrong side of history too long with this team. I had a lot of hope for this season... No more.

I expected last year's top defense to come back strong with a boost from an upgraded offense. In my view, everything hinged on the play of Chad Henne. He has improved this season, but not enough to give me any hope. The Defense has once again become a liability in the secondary. This team is cursed with the same things that have plagued them in years past.

They STILL can't do **** when they reach the redzone. And the defense STILL gets gashed by tight ends and top flight WRs.

Well, I'm done with this team and this regime. I supported Sparano since the beginning. He seems like a good guy, and seems to have some good qualities about him, but there is no excuse for the same mistakes continuing to harm this team coming out of the gate.

We have seen this story before. The Dolphins will go into the bye 1-3, and then they will string together a few wins in the easy middle part of the schedule, giving all us "homers" that they will mount some miracle run to the playoffs. Well, I'm not biting on that crap again... They will hover around .500 and collapse at the end of the season, per usual. YAY, 7-9!

This saddens me, because I have ZERO confidence in Stephen Ross' ability to score a good coach. This team, as far as I am concerned is doomed to mediocrity for the near future and beyond. Ross will probably throw all his chips at Cowher, who will come here after years away from the game, and accomplish nothing with this team. JJ Part Deux. He will want full control, and has never been a personnel guy. This team will be blown up once again, and other mediocre pieces will be brought in to replace the previous ones. The cycle will continue, ad infinitum, until years of absolute sucktitude eventually lands us a QB worth a scrap of dog poop.

The doom and gloomers were right, and they will puff their chests out in victory... But there is no victory, we all lose... We get to watch this garbage team for the rest of the year, and watch the cycle repeat itself with the next coach.

Sic vita est...

Fin.
 
Im sure I can speak for all us "realists" when I say welcome to the realization of the Miami Dolphins. Its good good to have some homers because they equal out us realists. Sorry to hear your hope is gone, but in that you are joining a large fanbase whi's hope has been gone since the 3rd quarter of the 2010 season.

Also, it isnt a negative that this regime needs to be blown up again, it is a positive. When that happens, we can all begin to be hopeful again. There is ZERO hope for the current regime and only a new regime will bring some semblance of hope back.

The thing is, how can I be hopeful when I have already seen what a failure our owner is? He appears to be as clueless as anyone in this organization. I have ZERO trust in his ability to make a good hire... ZERO.
 
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