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I am not buying the rumor mill about Denver trading for Ricky. Here is why:

Denver already has Tatum Bell and Mike Anderson. No real need. With no real need how much are you willing to trade to away on a questionable prospect?

Remember last year no one was willing to part with a second rounder for Edge or Shaun Alexander.

It makes no sense for Denver. I would be surprised if it happened. If it did happen we would be looking at a later pick and at Ricky's current salary he is a better value to keep.
 
fin-atic said:
I am not buying the rumor mill about Denver trading for Ricky. Here is why:

Denver already has Tatum Bell and Mike Anderson. No real need. With no real need how much are you willing to trade to away on a questionable prospect?

Remember last year no one was willing to part with a second rounder for Edge or Shaun Alexander.

It makes no sense for Denver. I would be surprised if it happened. If it did happen we would be looking at a later pick and at Ricky's current salary he is a better value to keep.
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Part of the reason there weren't any teams willing to part with a 2nd round pick for Edge or Alexander is the enoumous contract they would also have to give either back once they were traded (both of their contracts were expired and their respective teams had franchised them). This wouldn't be the case with Ricky.
 
Denver had Tatum Bell and Mike Anderso last year, but still drafted MAURICE CLARETT in the 3rd Round.
 
Dolfan4life! said:
Part of the reason there weren't any teams willing to part with a 2nd round pick for Edge or Alexander is the enoumous contract they would also have to give either back once they were traded (both of their contracts were expired and their respective teams had franchised them). This wouldn't be the case with Ricky.
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Do you think RW is going to stay at his current price tag? That dude owes more than the federal government. There is only one year left on his current deal, so if he played one year for that his next deal will be huge. Denver still does not gain. Anyone who gets Ricky will have to pay a huge deal. If not this year then next. That's a lot to do when you already have tow very good RBs.
 
fin-atic said:
I am not buying the rumor mill about Denver trading for Ricky. Here is why:

Denver already has Tatum Bell and Mike Anderson. No real need. With no real need how much are you willing to trade to away on a questionable prospect?

Remember last year no one was willing to part with a second rounder for Edge or Shaun Alexander.

It makes no sense for Denver. I would be surprised if it happened. If it did happen we would be looking at a later pick and at Ricky's current salary he is a better value to keep.
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Anderson is in the same boat as Ricky with the drug tests, and has been breaking down the last two seasons with injury's. Bell has proven he can't make it thru a season. And dayne is well, Dayne.

People did not want to pay the big, big bucks for Alexander and James. Williams makes donuts, and really is in no position to ask for more.

Not saying your wrong, but there is always two sides to a story.:wink:
 
SkapePhin said:
Denver had Tatum Bell and Mike Anderso last year, but still drafted MAURICE CLARETT in the 3rd Round.
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I am sure they would give up a late round pick. But after they will still have to pay Ricky. And a late pick is no real benefit for us. Ricky's value as a back-up and tandem with RB is worth more than a 3rd round pick.
 
What Im saying though is this, if they used a 3rd round pick on a rusty, slow RB with issues, what makes you think they wouldnt spend a high pick on a STUD RB like Ricky?
 
NJFINSFAN1 said:
Anderson is in the same boat as Ricky with the drug tests, and has been breaking down the last two seasons with injury's. Bell has proven he can't make it thru a season. And dayne is well, Dayne.

People did not want to pay the big, big bucks for Alexander and James. Williams makes donuts, and really is in no position to ask for more.

Not saying your wrong, but there is always two sides to a story.:wink:
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There is no guarantee Ricky makes it through the off season for anyone. He can flake out at any time. Your logic works both ways. Simple formula:

What is the benefit vs risk for Denver?
What is the value for the Fins?

Nothing about this trade makes those questions make sense.
 
fin-atic said:
There is no guarantee Ricky makes it through the off season for anyone. He can flake out at any time. Your logic works both ways. Simple formula:

What is the benefit vs risk for Denver?
What is the value for the Fins?

Nothing about this trade makes those questions make sense.
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They cut Anderson and save big bucks with Rickys contract. Get a guy that could rush for 2000 yards with that O-line. I can see how it makes sense to Denver.

It only makes sense to us if we get the 29th pick.

Again, I'm not saying your wrong. I really don't think it happens either.
 
SkapePhin said:
What Im saying though is this, if they used a 3rd round pick on a rusty, slow RB with issues, what makes you think they wouldnt spend a high pick on a STUD RB like Ricky?
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Because they dont need him, and a 3rd ra STUD RB is worthmore to us than a 3rd rounder.

NJFINSFAN1 said:
They cut Anderson and save big bucks with Rickys contract. Get a guy that could rush for 2000 yards with that O-line. I can see how it makes sense to Denver.

It only makes sense to us if we get the 29th pick.

Again, I'm not saying your wrong. I really don't think it happens either.
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Would you give up the 29th pick on someone who may not even show up in training camp? Or who is one puff away from a one year suspension?
And that you are going to have to pay huge $$ for next year?

Denver just has greater needs than RB.
 
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fin-atic said:
Because they dont need him, and a 3rd ra STUD RB is worthmore to us than a 3rd rounder.


Would you give up the 29th pick on someone who may not even show up in training camp? Or who is one puff away from a one year suspension?
And that you are going to have to pay huge $$ for next year?

Denver just has greater needs than RB.
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The Rat is known for taking chances. And he does it now with Anderson.
 
fin-atic said:
I am not buying the rumor mill about Denver trading for Ricky. Here is why:

Denver already has Tatum Bell and Mike Anderson. No real need. With no real need how much are you willing to trade to away on a questionable prospect?

Remember last year no one was willing to part with a second rounder for Edge or Shaun Alexander.

It makes no sense for Denver. I would be surprised if it happened. If it did happen we would be looking at a later pick and at Ricky's current salary he is a better value to keep.
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The answer to this is so very very simple......... Ricky Williams is a lot BETTER player than Bell or Anderson, and Denver is trying desperately to build a championship team NOW!!!! Don't be a bit surprised to see RW AND T.O. in a Denver Uniform next year, oh and BTW......... I Think Ricky Williams would be damn nearly unstoppable behind Denver's O-line.
 
I think its all a smoke screen. Just use Ricky and all this trade stuff to put fear on a few teams. It makes them really sit down and try to do the same thing, we do in the forums - "reck our brains". With the 2-3 backs they already have there they don't need Ricky.
This may be some type of deal to get T.O., who knows??? Saban value his picks so why don't Denver get T.O., and trade him to us for Ricky. See its all speculation.
 
Fin-atic...I think it's just Denver looking to upgrade. Anderson has injury problems for what, the last 3 years now. He's over 30 and has slowed down. The run schemes they run are much more suited to RW than to Anderson or Bell. Bell is more of a scat back and a good change of pace, but he also has proven he can't be an everydown back. Anderson can't fill that role either....RW does...and unlike Anderson and Bell, Ricky is equally adept at pass catching and power running. He'd probably approach TD numbers in that offense and if you watch the playoff games, they couldn't run the ball when they HAD to. Ricky solves that problem for them. But I'm sure they are just posturing to be ready for FA to begin...
 
fin-atic said:
There is no guarantee Ricky makes it through the off season for anyone. He can flake out at any time. Your logic works both ways. Simple formula:

What is the benefit vs risk for Denver?
What is the value for the Fins?

Nothing about this trade makes those questions make sense.
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Ricky is worth alot right now... low contract, great talent model ciitizen, but what about tomorrow? or next month? or next year? Ricky is a timebomb waiting to blow. He could fail another drug test, decide to leave the country or any number of odd and distruptive things. Persnally I think we got what we needed out of him last season, someone to let us help Brown get settled in the NFL. Now he is just a risk that needs to be removed for as much value as possible.
 
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