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Did Dan Marino revolutionize the game?

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I blurted this statement in a drunken rage in an argument with my roomates, fans of Steelers, Bears and Cowboys, arguably the top 4 franchises (including the Phins of course).

They always tease about the SB thing, which i can take..

But i tried to back up my statement by stating that he had the quickest release ever at the time... and that when he put up 48 TD's that changes how QB's would play the game...
I Know leading up to that guys like Fouts were putting up 30 TDs which was an increase over the 20 that might be thrown prior to the 80's..
But 48? no one thought that was possible... It took about 20 years until Manning broke the record, but still didn't have as many yards as Dan...

Those points aren't enough to constitute a "revolution" so they say..

I'm looking for a few more solid arguments i can make to convince them...

I was born in 86' so i missed all of the Phin's glory days, but i grew up watching Marino in the middle of his career, so i still got to understand his importance...
 
he was a leader in every major passing stat category before fah-vre broke them... now Fahvre owns most of them, especially the most INT's thrown
 
was an excellent QB & Dolphin Icon. one of the better to have played the game
but revolutionized football? I don't think so
never a good idea to sport any negativity with the Icons. the man is a part of DolfanMythology & beyond criticism. we need our heroes. next time you go see a game, look at who greets you at the entrance.
I prefer to keep it current, discussing issues that pertain to 2009.
 
stats dont constitute a revolution...
i'm looking for reasons why he CHANGED the game...
must be backup'd with words and points, not numbers, unless they represent stats for reasons of his domination
 
I think Dan Fouts revolutionized the game. When he came into the league most teams were run heavy, but Dan Fouts running that Air Coryell offense turned the Chargers air attack into a thing of beauty. Other than Fran Tarkenton i can't think of a QB pre-1980 who passed as many times, for as many yards and as many TD's as Fouts. That includes Bradshaw, Griese, Staubach. All of those guys relied heavily on their running game.

Marino picked up on what Fouts did, and did it better. Best passer ever, no debate.
 
SpaceMountain16 said:
I think Dan Fouts revolutionized the game. When he came into the league most teams were run heavy, but Dan Fouts running that Air Coryell offense turned the Chargers air attack into a thing of beauty. Other than Fran Tarkenton i can't think of a QB pre-1980 who passed as many times, for as many yards and as many TD's as Fouts. That includes Bradshaw, Griese, Staubach. All of those guys relied heavily on their running game.

Marino picked up on what Fouts did, and did it better. Best passer ever, no debate.
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I think Sammy Baugh trumps them all, as far as "revolutionary", that is.

Excerpt from his profile on the Hall of Fame website:

Sammy Baugh arrived on the pro football scene in 1937, the same year the Redskins moved to Washington from Boston. The Texas Christian star was the team’s first round pick that year. Over the next 16 seasons “Slingin’ Sammy” not only helped establish the pro game in the nation’s capital, he also was a major influence in the offensive revolution that occurred in the late 1930s and early 1940s.

When Baugh first started with the Redskins pro football was largely a grind-it-out ground game. The forward pass was something to be used with caution, and never inside your 30-yard line, except in desperate situations. By the time Baugh was through, the forward pass was a primary offensive weapon. Obviously, such a change could not be totally brought about by one individual. But Baugh was the catalyst that changed the game. No one had seen a passer who could throw with such accuracy.
 
SpaceMountain16 said:
I think Dan Fouts revolutionized the game. When he came into the league most teams were run heavy, but Dan Fouts running that Air Coryell offense turned the Chargers air attack into a thing of beauty. Other than Fran Tarkenton i can't think of a QB pre-1980 who passed as many times, for as many yards and as many TD's as Fouts. That includes Bradshaw, Griese, Staubach. All of those guys relied heavily on their running game.

Marino picked up on what Fouts did, and did it better. Best passer ever, no debate.
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You're pretty much right. Fouts and the Chargers really instituted the vertical passing game, something that alot of teams built on.

Dan Marino was probably the best passer of all time though.
 
I think the changes in rules favoring the offense, particularly receivers, is what has let the overall trend in the NFL towards more of a passing game. (Dan was able to put up those numbers without the help of the rule changes though!)
 
Dr. Phin said:
I think the changes in rules favoring the offense, particularly receivers, is what has let the overall trend in the NFL towards more of a passing game. (Dan was able to put up those numbers without the help of the rule changes though!)
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The rules changed in 1977 and 1978 about defenders only allowed to hit a receiver once and only within the first five yards.
 
Actually it was Sam Madison who revolutioized the game , his finite talent and genious like qualities is what seperates the great Madison from our other former and curent players.


kidding.

I think Dan Marino could have been the greatest qb if he only had Randy Mcmichael, Ricky Williams , Ronnie Brown and Chad Johnson. the only reason Dan didnt get his ring is because of the hair spray warden and and his conservative play calling.
 
What really happened, was teams started to play Dan differently after he put up that huge season in 1984. Teams stopped playing a lot of man coverage against him, and they started to play a lot of zone coverage. Teams didn't want to give up the quick strike score or big play so they tried to make Dan string a bunch of plays together in order to move the ball and score. Of course Dan adjusted, and he was able to pick apart the zone coverage. Teams really tried to get pressure right in Dan's face. He struggled the most with teams that could pressure him right up the middle. Teams that were good at getting pressure off the edges didn't faze him much. Edge rushers had a hard time being much of a factor because Dan had such a quick release and an uncanny knack of stepping up in the pocket.
 
I don't think he 'revolutionised' football. I just think he was a tremendous player.
 
I believe Johnny Unitas revolutionized the position, maybe even the game. He could have won championships in any era.
 
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