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As I have thought about this more, its kinda funny that Scott comes in, brings his QB, leaves and we keep his playbook. All of a sudden its the "Dolphins Offense"

This seems unorthodox to keep the playbook. Most of the time, the new OC brings in his playbook.

Has anyone heard Scott's opinion on this? Does he feel robbed?

I love this idea because it keeps continuity but did we strong arm Scott with this one?
 
good point.

but the way i look at it, he came for a year then left. we need some continuality so those are the brakes if you take off as soon as he did. and most of the plays in the nfl are the same w/ just different names, so i don't think it is that big of a deal. the oc is more about calling the plays at certain times getting defenses off guard.
 
Well, I think if anything Miami might have stolen the terminology. Some plays go by colors, some by numbers, etc. and so. on.

Odds are the plays, the tendencies, formations, style, etc. are going to change at least a little bit with Mularkey.
 
If Miami hired him, kept him for a year, fired him and kept his playbook perhaps we'd be guilty of "stealing" his playbook.

Scott chose to leave of his own accord, so I don't think it's our fault at all really.
 
GCD960 said:
As I have thought about this more, its kinda funny that Scott comes in, brings his QB, leaves and we keep his playbook. All of a sudden its the "Dolphins Offense"

This seems unorthodox to keep the playbook. Most of the time, the new OC brings in his playbook.

Has anyone heard Scott's opinion on this? Does he feel robbed?

I love this idea because it keeps continuity but did we strong arm Scott with this one?
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Sorry but thats crazy! Once you teach a team an offense what do you do when you leave? tell them all to forget it !Anyway much of what we are keeping is terminology Mularky will have influence on what plays schemes we run.
 
eddie4fins said:
Sorry but thats crazy! Once you teach a team an offense what do you do when you leave? tell them all to forget it !Anyway much of what we are keeping is terminology Mularky will have influence on what plays schemes we run.
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Agreed, most of the NFL shares plays, the verbage or Audible signals would be the only difference.
 
not to mention that we still have offensive assistants who worked under Linehan who are familiar with the playbook. i think that Mularkey is more going to be adding a chapter to the playbook rather than redoing the whole thing. Saban probably said something like "take what you think are your best plays, or most effective plays, change the terminology and we'll work them in in camp" rather than "here's an empty folder, fill it up".
 
by the way on another note, i like how Saban is setting this team up for the future, and i dont just mean for the next few years, i mean like long into the future, i can see us becoming one of those historical franchises, i mean, its 'The Dolphins Playbook' any coach that comes in after him and says "we're using my playbook, and doing things my way" sounds like an egotist (JIMMY JOHNSON!!!!), i like what Saban is doing and it makes me think that he is going to be around for a long time.

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I dont think linehan is necarilally the one that made all the plays in the first place. The playbook and plays where made by the offensive staff, Hudson Houck probaply designed just as many running play(if not more) than linehan. You dont hire the kind of guys we did on offense(baggett, houck, etc) to have 1 guy do all the work. Sure alot of it is based off of what linehan does and likes to do, but at the same time alot of the assistants played a big part in the designs of our plays.
 
Nick13 said:
by the way on another note, i like how Saban is setting this team up for the future, and i dont just mean for the next few years, i mean like long into the future, i can see us becoming one of those historical franchises, i mean, its 'The Dolphins Playbook' any coach that comes in after him and says "we're using my playbook, and doing things my way" sounds like an egotist (JIMMY JOHNSON!!!!), i like what Saban is doing and it makes me think that he is going to be around for a long time.

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Yah dude i agree. I think saban will be here for a while. He is doing an absolute great job in all phases of coaching.
 
Absolutly not. When a new offensive coordinator is brought in, they are not asked to completely rewrite the playbook, only to add plays and suggest new formations, shifts and terms. An offensive coordinators job is not to write plays, his job is to call them or assist the head coach in calling them. The offense we ran last year was not Linehans offense, it was Sabans with a few new plays and formations. MM will have the same plays to work with but it will be hard to tell because of how distributed the plays will be.
 
PassRush said:
Absolutly not. When a new offensive coordinator is brought in, they are not asked to completely rewrite the playbook, only to add plays and suggest new formations, shifts and terms. An offensive coordinators job is not to write plays, his job is to call them or assist the head coach in calling them. The offense we ran last year was not Linehans offense, it was Sabans with a few new plays and formations. MM will have the same plays to work with but it will be hard to tell because of how distributed the plays will be.
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Great answer. Some plays will be the same, but it will also have some new ones, it also depends on the players on the field, and situation of the game
 
GCD960 said:
As I have thought about this more, its kinda funny that Scott comes in, brings his QB, leaves and we keep his playbook. All of a sudden its the "Dolphins Offense"

This seems unorthodox to keep the playbook. Most of the time, the new OC brings in his playbook.

Has anyone heard Scott's opinion on this? Does he feel robbed?

I love this idea because it keeps continuity but did we strong arm Scott with this one?
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Tough ******* on Scott i'm afraid, he is the one that left, not us. I think that Saban seen for the best part of the first half of the season we were learning, adjusting etc, and he doesn't want that to happen again next season. I think that he will get Mularkey to tweek and adjust the offense as we go on, changing things little by little, therefore not wasting a half season like we did last year
 
I'm sure that Linehan would be the first to admit that it really isn't any more "his playbook" than it is anyone else's. It isn't like he came up with the plays ex nihilo. Rather, playbooks tend to be a crazy mixture of numerous sources, and for one person to claim ownership of them would be ludicrous.
 
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