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Did we give up to soon on Chad Henne...?

Daytona Fin said:
http://www.sportsattic.com/araig/NflRulesHistory.htm
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You guys are missing the point, the rule was changed because of Marino, he torched the league in the early 80's , even today you can't interfere touch or reroute the receiver beyond 5 yards of line of scrimmage.

It clearly proves you don't understand the rules. What year it was changed, I cannot recall, but believe it it was in the 3rd or 4th year of Marino's career.

Back then, if you touched or rerouted a receiver beyond 5 years, you were flagged, so it favored Dan Marino's quick release.

I know what I am talking about.

Here is the rule you bring up:

1996
The five-yard contact rule will be enforced more stringently.
Hits with the helmet or to the head by the defender will be flagged as personal fouls and subject to fines. This is being done to protect the offense, particularly the quarterback.

When Marino played early (83-84-85), no contact could be made to the wide receiver beyond 5 yards.

Marino's greatest year was in 1984, you guys are misguided thinking it was changed to give Marino an advantage.

Also, Marino was dafted in 1983, a rule change favoring your point in 1996 would have made him a lot better, and it did not.

They changed the rules, to stop Marino.
 
dolphans1 said:
You guys are missing the point, the rule was changed because of Marino, he torched the league in the early 80's , even today you can't interfere touch or reroute the receiver beyond 5 yards of line of scrimmage.

It clearly proves you don't understand the rules.
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I wasn't trying to prove a point or understand the rules. I just posted a link to NFL rule change history to add to the discussion. I have no clue as to the reasoning why the competition committee decided to alter the rules.
 
1996
The five-yard contact rule will be enforced more stringently.

Daytona Fin said:
http://www.sportsattic.com/araig/NflRulesHistory.htm
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To further prove my point, Dan Marino was cut in 1999, that's a 2 year difference from the rule change you're citing.

When Dan Marino started, you basically could not touch a receiver beyond 5 yards off the line of scrimmage.

Dan's last 2 game playoff stats: (note - in his bad year, he got us into the playoffs)
1999 POSTSEASON GAME LOG PASSING RUSHING
DATE OPP RESULT CMP ATT YDS CMP% AVG LNG TD INT RAT ATT YDS AVG LNG TD
Sun 1/9

@
SEA

W 17 30 196 56.7 6.53 27 1 0 87.6 1 -1 -1.0 -1 0
Sat 1/15

@
JAX

L 11 25 95 44.0 3.80 20 1 2 34.6 1 0 0.0 0 0
POSTSEASON STATS 28 55 291 50.9 5.29 27 2 2 63.5 2 -1 -0.5 0 0
 
Ryan Tannehill will be a fine QB. He needs a better OL, receivers who can catch, and a good running game to back him up. Lets not forget Aaron Rodgers didn't start until...what...his 4th year?
 
dolphans1 said:
You guys are missing the point, the rule was changed because of Marino, he torched the league in the early 80's , even today you can't interfere touch or reroute the receiver beyond 5 yards of line of scrimmage.

It clearly proves you don't understand the rules. What year it was changed, I cannot recall, but believe it it was in the 3rd or 4th year of Marino's career.

Back then, if you touched or rerouted a receiver beyond 5 years, you were flagged, so it favored Dan Marino's quick release.

I know what I am talking about.

Here is the rule you bring up:

1996
The five-yard contact rule will be enforced more stringently.
Hits with the helmet or to the head by the defender will be flagged as personal fouls and subject to fines. This is being done to protect the offense, particularly the quarterback.

When Marino played early (83-84-85), no contact could be made to the wide receiver beyond 5 yards.

Marino's greatest year was in 1984, you guys are misguided thinking it was changed to give Marino an advantage.

Also, Marino was dafted in 1983, a rule change favoring your point in 1996 would have made him a lot better, and it did not.

They changed the rules, to stop Marino.
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They didn't make any rule changes to stop Marino.

In 1974, in response to the growing emphasis on bump-and-run coverage, a rule was installed stating that a pass receiver could only be chucked once by a defender after he had proceeded to a point 3 yards beyond the line of scrimmage. Any number of bumps was permissible in the 3-yard zone, and a receiver could be bumped by more than one defender beyond the 3-yard zone -- but no more than once per defender. In 1977, a defender could contact an eligible receiver either in the 3-yard zone or once beyond the zone, but not both. This did not solve the problem of a receiver being bumped by multiple defenders as he tried to work his way downfield. In 1978, a defender could establish and maintain contact with an eligible receiver only within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. But beyond the 5-yard zone, no contact -- other than incidental -- by any defender was permitted. Pass-blocking rules changed so that blockers could extend their arms and open their hands in keeping a pass-rusher away from the quarterback.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/page...s/even-best-being-nfl-defensive-back-struggle

If they changed the rules to stop Marino, they would have continued to allow defender to hold, hit or even maul receivers all over the field the way the Steelers and the Raiders use to do during the '70s.
 
dolphans1 said:
You guys are missing the point, the rule was changed because of Marino, he torched the league in the early 80's , even today you can't interfere touch or reroute the receiver beyond 5 yards of line of scrimmage.

It clearly proves you don't understand the rules. What year it was changed, I cannot recall, but believe it it was in the 3rd or 4th year of Marino's career.

Back then, if you touched or rerouted a receiver beyond 5 years, you were flagged, so it favored Dan Marino's quick release.

I know what I am talking about.

Here is the rule you bring up:

1996
The five-yard contact rule will be enforced more stringently.
Hits with the helmet or to the head by the defender will be flagged as personal fouls and subject to fines. This is being done to protect the offense, particularly the quarterback.

When Marino played early (83-84-85), no contact could be made to the wide receiver beyond 5 yards.

Marino's greatest year was in 1984, you guys are misguided thinking it was changed to give Marino an advantage.

Also, Marino was dafted in 1983, a rule change favoring your point in 1996 would have made him a lot better, and it did not.

They changed the rules, to stop Marino.
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Again you're wrong. Why would they change the rule because marino was torching the league and make the new rule more passing friendly?? It was changed because CBs like Madison and Surtain where mugging receivers all the way down the field. Stop making **** up!
 
Daytona Fin said:
I wasn't trying to prove a point or understand the rules. I just posted a link to NFL rule change history to add to the discussion. I have no clue as to the reasoning why the competition committee decided to alter the rules.
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They changed it because of Dan Marino. Even Don Shula stated this, back then, if you touched or altered a receivers path of direction, a flag was thrown. Shula was on the rules committee and the other owners claimed Marino and the Dolphins had an unfair advantage. It was changed a few years later, I'm thinking 2 or 3, if the DB was making a play on the ball, he had the same right to go after it.

Don Shula spoke about it on the Don Shula show when that Kennedy guy hosted the show on the Sunshine Network.

Dan Marino was unstoppable even in practice, when he would tell the defense where he was throwing. I actually watched him practice a few times, and its amazing how accurate he was.

It was back when Bobby Monica was the equipment manager for the Dolphins.

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LandShark13 said:
Again you're wrong. Why would they change the rule because marino was torching the league and make the new rule more passing friendly?? It was changed because CBs like Madison and Surtain where mugging receivers all the way down the field. Stop making **** up!
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You're so wrong and rude.

Know your history....!!!
 
dolphans1 said:
They changed it because of Dan Marino. Even Don Shula stated this, back then, if you touched or altered a receivers path of direction, a flag was thrown. Shula was on the rules committee and the other owners claimed Marino and the Dolphins had an unfair advantage. It was changed a few years later, I'm thinking 2 or 3, if the DB was making a play on the ball, he had the same right to go after it.

Don Shula spoke about it on the Don Shula show when that Kennedy guy hosted the show on the Sunshine Network.

Dan Marino was unstoppable even in practice, when he would tell the defense where he was throwing. I actually watched him practice a few times, and its amazing how accurate he was.

It was back when Bobby Monica was the equipment manager for the Dolphins.

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You're so wrong and rude.

Know your history....!!!
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Ok is this like wildbill on a dif account messing with people??
 
Can everyone please agree to stop responding in this thread? Just let it die...
 
russianbear said:
Can everyone please agree to stop responding in this thread? Just let it die...
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Yes, go Florida State, though I am a Uof M fan.....!!!!!! So glad Nick Saban and Bama lost.....!
 
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We can't have an opinion so I regress, I am wrong in my opinion.

Ryan Tannehill is the best and better than Dan Marino.
 
Dolphans1 - the Chad Henne thread is now up to 18 pages. I commend you for your outstanding effort in keeping this non-issue alive. Is this like your Finheaven equivalent of filibustering?
 
I'm actually disappointed that I guessed there would be 28 "No Thanks" for the OP's opening post and instead there were 33.
 
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