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Dion Jordan - Jadeveon clowney combine comparison

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Height
Jordan - 6'6
Clowney - 6'5

Arm length
Jordan - 33 7/8"
Clowney - 34 1/2"

Weight
Jordan - 248lbs
Clowney - 266 lbs

40 Yard dash
Jordan - 4.60
Clowney - 4.53

Vert Jump
Jordan 32.5"
Clowney 37.5"

Broad Jump
Jordan - 122"
Clowney - 124"

3 Cone Drill
Jordan - 7.02
Clowney - 7.27

Overview
While both are freakish athletes, Clowney has had some 'motivational' or 'work ethic' concerns, while Jordan never had these issues.

While Jordan shied away from bench press due to strength issues, Clowney has done same with the 20 yard shuffle, with possibly not so eye popping change of direction skills.

As a fin fan though, I do believe Clowney is far better to suited to a 4-3, while Jordan a 3-4 or hybrid D. Clowney is far better against the run, stronger at point of attack, while Jordan has more agility and better in back pedal with experience of going back in coverage.

With these comparisons, some quite similar, other not so, would you trade Jordan? If so what would it take?

IMO I would trade him. Atlanta would have to give up far more to get to no.2 than they would trading for Jordan. In Mike Nolans D I think he would be a star. It would also give us the realistic opportunity to draft one of Robinson, Matthews or Lewan.

Jordan is a square peg in a round hole in Coyles D. 2014 he is likely to be a situational player once again. Who will aid the Dolphins more, Robinson, Matthews, Lewan or Dion Jordan?
 
we are lucky to have Jordan, the guy is a freak. I don't get all the hate he gets on here. Jordan will show up this year. I just wish we were in a 34 so he could be an olb. or hell just move him to lb the guy can cover and rush. all I know is he needs to be on the field. every time he had an opportunity to play he made plays. when he covered gronk he took him out of the game. he needs to be on the damn field. and if the coaching staff doesn't realize that they need to be gone.
 
last year when jordan did play he looked nothing like a pass rushing force. he had one move, a bull rush and that was about it. i was quite shocked how stiff and slow he looked. maybe he can be a situational rusher and a be a guy who shadows te's but as far as an elite pass rusher, when has he ever been one?
 
sinPHIN said:
we are lucky to have Jordan, the guy is a freak. I don't get all the hate he gets on here. Jordan will show up this year. I just wish we were in a 34 so he could be an olb. or hell just move him to lb the guy can cover and rush. all I know is he needs to be on the field. every time he had an opportunity to play he made plays. when he covered gronk he took him out of the game. he needs to be on the damn field. and if the coaching staff doesn't realize that they need to be gone.
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Please don't take from most that I don't believe that Jordan is not a pro bowl potential player. IMO in a 3-4 he would be a perennial pro bowler, but we are a 4-3 D and a young OT would be more beneficial especially if it's Matthews or Robinson over Jordan.
 
I thought Jordan looked raw but made plays in a very limited fashion. I have hopes he will do what he is projected to do. Clowney Will be a beast year one IMO. He played careful to not to f up his NFL career. He wasn't the first guy to do this and won't be the last.
 
2 very very different players. Both will be studs and Jordan fecking be doing it in miami
 
If we don't have a plan to use Jordan differently this year (OLB), then we should trade him if we can get a top 10 pick. This team doesn't have the luxury of a part time player taking a 3rd to half the snaps. He's an awesome talent, but if he doesn't fit the primary defense Coyle wants out there, then we'd certainly be better off with an every down player right now (ie Offensive Tackle).

I hope we are more creative with Jordan this year, but after last year I have my doubts given we have he same HC and DC. Jordan certainly has to show a bigger array of rush moves and better timing off the snap which could earn him more plays.
 
bird33 said:
last year when jordan did play he looked nothing like a pass rushing force. he had one move, a bull rush and that was about it. i was quite shocked how stiff and slow he looked. maybe he can be a situational rusher and a be a guy who shadows te's but as far as an elite pass rusher, when has he ever been one?
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I mean, if you wanna rag on the guy okay, but get your **** straight. Dion bull rushed as his only move? Lol no
 
Jordan doesn't compare to clowney at all. As a sophomore Clowney was a dominant defensive player. Jordan has always been just another guy.
 
Are we really determining both players NFL futures from the underwear Olympics that is called the combine?
 
Clowney is the superior athlete, nobody is disputing that. In fact, one GM said that there are about 12 guys in this class that are all better than anyone in last year's class. This year's class is stacked, and last year's class was thin.

As for the bench press, recall that Jordan's shoulder was injured ... bench pressing until exhaustion isn't the best medicine for that. Jordan is elite by NFL standards ... Clowney is just better. That doesn't diminish Jordan's gifts. We would never have a shot at Clowney. Nobody is letting us shoot up to near the top of round 1 for only a 2nd rounder this year.

Clowney has questionable effort ... Jordan has questionable weight ... neither is sure-fire, but both have huge ceilings.

I'm excited about Jordan. I wanted the LT guy Lane Johnson, and we surely needed him. In retrospect he would have been the better pick, but Jordan can become a force for us and if he develops a few more pass rush moves and bulks up to play the run, can become the type of player you build a defense around, much like Cam Wake is today.
 
Everyone talks about Jordan not fitting our Do scheme. What will we say when we trade him and Coyle gets fired next season because Philbin gets fired and the new DC runs a scheme that would have fit Jordan.
 
Travis34 said:
I mean, if you wanna rag on the guy okay, but get your **** straight. Dion bull rushed as his only move? Lol no
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It wasn't a bull rush, more like trying to get the edge and trying to peel back inside when he didn't make it. That really was his only move when I zeroed in on him. He also looked slow off the ball and really only got pressure on free rushes. In my humble opinion he has a ways to go as a rusher but I hope he can improve.
 
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