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Great sig Vaark. After all they both have a hard on for guys named Sanchez.
 
nyjunc said:
If you think the '11 Bengals were anywhere near as good as the '09 Bengals you really don't know what you are watching. I get the whining about your hated div rival having success but for once try and look at things objectively.

Cincy was 1-2 when they faced the Bills, including that game and and the 4 others in theor 5 game win streak they faced teams that would up w/ a combined 29-51 record, they beat one team w/ a winning record all year(9-7 Ten). W/in the division alone 2009 Cincy beat 4 teams w/ winning records including 2 games over a playoff bound team.
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But it doesn't matter in 09 that the jest beat teams with a .310 combined winning percentage? And it doesn't matter that the jest lost 6 out of 7 that season? Nor does it matter that couldn't beat a decent team with nothing to play for at home when the post season was legitimately at stake??

You can't have it both ways: you want to ignore how bad the 09 jest throughout most of the season were until they reached the playoffs, yet want to ignore how bad 09 Cinci had become once by the time they reached the playoffs. If you want to give Cinci credit for their first 9 games fine, then by the same token unless you're totally hypocritical, you must acknowledge how bad to mediocre the jest were over the first 14 games teams actually came to play them. Can't conveniently parse it both way, sorry.
 
nyjunc said:
If you think the '11 Bengals were anywhere near as good as the '09 Bengals you really don't know what you are watching. I get the whining about your hated div rival having success but for once try and look at things objectively.

Cincy was 1-2 when they faced the Bills, including that game and and the 4 others in theor 5 game win streak they faced teams that would up w/ a combined 29-51 record, they beat one team w/ a winning record all year(9-7 Ten). W/in the division alone 2009 Cincy beat 4 teams w/ winning records including 2 games over a playoff bound team.
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Who the heck cares about 2009 and 2011, except you with your delusions of Jests "elitism"?

If the Bills DL plays as well on the field as it looks on paper, your sweetie Sanchez will be trampled as Super Mario feasts on that turnstile named Hunter or Ducasse at RT in the season opener. :lol: Then your genius OC can insert Timmie Tebow into the game to get INTed a bunch just like he did last December.

The fact is that the Bills spent the off-season trying to fill their biggest needs and improve their team while the Jests brought the circus to town so that they could push the Super Bowl-winning Gnats off the front page of the sports sections and so that the FO can cover their butts when Sanchez is revealed to be a bust -- and spare everyone the crap about how poor Sanchize is a "young QB". He's started more games than either Fitzpatrick or Moore, and he's had more talent around him than either of those two QBs have had.
 
Not scared of them, but we better respect and not overlook them!!
 
Actually the Bill's have done a very good job both in free agency and the draft. The Jets and Pats not so much. With that improvement I could see the Bill's finishing second in the AFC East ... a few game behind us :up:
 
Vaark said:
But it doesn't matter in 09 that the jest beat teams with a .310 combined winning percentage? And it doesn't matter that the jest lost 6 out of 7 that season? Nor does it matter that couldn't beat a decent team with nothing to play for at home when the post season was legitimately at stake??

You can't have it both ways: you want to ignore how bad the 09 jest throughout most of the season were until they reached the playoffs, yet want to ignore how bad 09 Cinci had become once by the time they reached the playoffs. If you want to give Cinci credit for their first 9 games fine, then by the same token unless you're totally hypocritical, you must acknowledge how bad to mediocre the jest were over the first 14 games teams actually came to play them. Can't conveniently parse it both way, sorry.
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The 2009 jets beat 3 playoff bound teams, if you want to take awa Indy b/c they rested guys they still beat 2 then won 2 playoff games on the road. 2011 Cincy beat ZERO playoff bound teams and were one and done against TJ Yates and Houston.

I must have msised where I said the jets were a great team over the first 14 games.

Kinzua said:
Who the heck cares about 2009 and 2011, except you with your delusions of Jests "elitism"?

If the Bills DL plays as well on the field as it looks on paper, your sweetie Sanchez will be trampled as Super Mario feasts on that turnstile named Hunter or Ducasse at RT in the season opener. :lol: Then your genius OC can insert Timmie Tebow into the game to get INTed a bunch just like he did last December.

The fact is that the Bills spent the off-season trying to fill their biggest needs and improve their team while the Jests brought the circus to town so that they could push the Super Bowl-winning Gnats off the front page of the sports sections and so that the FO can cover their butts when Sanchez is revealed to be a bust -- and spare everyone the crap about how poor Sanchize is a "young QB". He's started more games than either Fitzpatrick or Moore, and he's had more talent around him than either of those two QBs have had.
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If our OL plays up to their abilities we'll be fine against any DL even one w/ 2 new overrated pass rushers like Buffalo.

The Bills got a QB? I missed that? they got another WR opposite Stevie sure hands Johnson? I missed that, they improved the OL? I missed that.

Buf had many more holes to fill, the Jets don't have many holes and the few we had we filled besides RT.

The jets are about WINNING not backpages, you win the backpages in NY by WINNING. We had them in '09 & '10, we lost them last year. tebow was brought in to make the team better.


he's started more games than Fitz or Moore and he's won more than the 2 of them combined(including postseason). He doesn't have the luxury of playing meaningles games where his team isn't expected to win like Fitz and Moore. We saw what Fitz did this year when he finally had some expectations to win.

I love Bills fans acting like Fitz is Jim kelly and that they signed Bruce Smith and Reggie White this offseason.

Enjoy the offseason, enjoy finally having a competitive team(maybe), don't look to far ahead and don't fool yourself into thinking you are going to be better than a team that has dominated you in recent years.
 
nyjunc said:
The 2009 jets beat 3 playoff bound teams, if you want to take awa Indy b/c they rested guys they still beat 2 then won 2 playoff games on the road. 2011 Cincy beat ZERO playoff bound teams and were one and done against TJ Yates and Houston.

I must have msised where I said the jets were a great team over the first 14 games.
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Ahh, I see, and agree. They certainly far from a great team, and yes they beat Houston and Cincinatti. If only it was that simple. Putting 2 of those teams into perspective, the jest beat Houston in game 1 who then went on to lose to 5-11 Jacksonville in their 3rd game and then lose to Jacksonville again later in the season. We've already beat dead in the water Cinci to death, but factually, the last winning team they beat was Pittsburgh 8 games prior to the season's end. After that they went 3-4 including losing to the following 2 playoff teams they faced, Minnesota and those same SD Chargers that the jest just squeaked through on account of the kicker's chokes. Come on, how daunting is that record over the last 7 games being outscored by 37 points and limping into the playoffs? Hint: it's not!

And yes by trying to group 2009 into your "elite" illusion, you in fact indeed are asserting that a team that couldn't take care of business aganst a dead team at home, who had a losing streak of 6 out of 7, who beat teams with a combined .310 winning percentage up through game 14 and would have been sitting home with the Fins, if not for a gift so egregious that the league immediately revised their scheduling policy to reflect inter-divisional rivalries at season's end. So yes, not only were they not a "good team" who stepped in ****, but the reality is that they were a downright mediocre team whose post season exploits based on who they beat and how, how they got a free pass in, and how mediocre a team all season they truly were is even more worthy of an *asterisk as any slugging record broken by Sammy Sosa or Mark McGuire. It is what it is.
 
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Until we know what we have on offense and defense under new coaches any team could threaten us. I am cautiously optimistic that the Dolphins will be better than most think.
 
lol,lmao

fishfanmiami said:
The Bill's cheerleaders ?


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lmao omg that put a freekin tear in my eyes from laughing so hard .i think your right:chuckle:

Pretty scary
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lmao omg that put a freekin tear in my eyes from laughing so hard .i think your right:chuckle:

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They've gotten better on both sides of the ball. They have Mario Williams. They improved their o-line, they drafted a corner in the the first. Yes, they scare me. Probably more than the Jets and less than the Patriots.
 
Vaark said:
Ahh, I see, and agree. They certainly far from a great team, and yes they beat Houston and Cincinatti. If only it was that simple. Putting 2 of those teams into perspective, the jest beat Houston in game 1 who then went on to lose to 5-11 Jacksonville in their 3rd game and then lose to Jacksonville again later in the season. We've already beat dead in the water Cinci to death, but factually, the last winning team they beat was Pittsburgh 8 games prior to the season's end. After that they went 3-4 including losing to the following 2 playoff teams they faced, Minnesota and those same SD Chargers that the jest just squeaked through on account of the kicker's chokes. Come on, how daunting is that record over the last 7 games being outscored by 37 points and limping into the playoffs? Hint: it's not!

And yes by trying to group 2009 into your "elite" illusion, you in fact indeed are asserting that a team that couldn't take care of business aganst a dead team at home, who had a losing streak of 6 out of 7, who beat teams with a combined .310 winning percentage up through game 14 and would have been sitting home with the Fins, if not for a gift so egregious that the league immediately revised their scheduling policy to reflect inter-divisional rivalries at season's end. So yes, not only were they not a "good team" who stepped in ****, but the reality is that they were a downright mediocre team whose post season exploits based on who they beat and how, how they got a free pass in, and how mediocre a team all season they truly were is even more worthy of an *asterisk as any slugging record broken by Sammy Sosa or Mark McGuire. It is what it is.
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