Do you really want to compete with at least 6 other owners for a better HC?

[AL R]

I would put Detroit ahead of us because of the playmakers they have, not sure about the location factor though, that may tip it back to Miami some.

 

[Penthos]

Yeah why would we want to compete in this league?

Another classic thread from fans who don't give a **** about our team. Let's settle for what's not good enough because we don't want to have to compete with other teams. ****. The whole ****ing point of this sport is competition and achieving what everyone else is after.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, Mogwai. You're a real fracking genius...

I've been on this website nearly every day since 2002, have had Direct TV for nearly 10 years ONLY so I can get Sunday Ticket ONLY to watch Dolphins games, have a closet full of Dolphins gear, and haven't missed a single game in almost 20 years, ALL because (as you so intelligently figured out) I don't care about the team.

So I guess I should really listen to that brilliant rational mind of yours... Or you could just Go f--k yourself.

 

[Gonzo]

I would put Detroit ahead of us because of the playmakers they have, not sure about the location factor though, that may tip it back to Miami some.

That depends on whether they are sold on Stafford, because they are stuck with him (I see too much Romo in him). Tannehill still has a ton of room to develop, but they aren't stuck with him if he doesn't.

 

[matt11390]

I gotta say if we do fire Philbin one guy I feel would be a great HC but I haven't seen his name really is Charlie Strong from Louisville.

 

[BillsFanInPeace]

The college couch I would love to see in the NFL is Kevin Sumlin.

That should be the college coach get not Bill O'Brien

 

[dlockz]

Personally even though he hasn't got the job done as an owner I would rather have Snyder as an owner because at the very least he has sought out the best to make his team a winner and when it hasn't worked out he hasn't hesitated to move on. Jones may be meddling but he has a few superbowl rings as an owner and definitely got stuff done.

 

[Gonzo]

Personally even though he hasn't got the job done as an owner I would rather have Snyder as an owner because at the very least he has sought out the best to make his team a winner and when it hasn't worked out he hasn't hesitated to move on. Jones may be meddling but he has a few superbowl rings as an owner and definitely got stuff done.

No way man. He's the polar opposite of Ross, which is equally bad. We need a good middle ground. An owner who doesn't become buddies with his staff and is willing to move on when it's clearly time (now), but also willing to stay out of the football side of things. Snyder and Jerry get involved not only in player acquisition, but also in who starts and who doesn't. No thank you. And Jerry only won those rings by hiring a coach who stood up against his meddling, which he likely won't do again. He clearly prefers puppet coaches like Wade Phillips.

 

[Penthos]

Personally even though he hasn't got the job done as an owner I would rather have Snyder as an owner because at the very least he has sought out the best to make his team a winner and when it hasn't worked out he hasn't hesitated to move on. Jones may be meddling but he has a few superbowl rings as an owner and definitely got stuff done.

Right, because flying across the country the country in a last ditch effort to land Harbaugh is not seeking someone out. Publicly saying you will do whatever it takes to get Peyton Manning to Miami is not agressively going after someone. Some of you are like Slot Machine junkies, just pull that arm and see what coaches come up. Oh, they didn't work in two years? .... No problem, just yank that arm again and repeat.

 

[dlockz]

No way man. He's the polar opposite of Ross, which is equally bad. We need a good middle ground. An owner who doesn't become buddies with his staff and is willing to move on when it's clearly time (now), but also willing to stay out of the football side of things. Snyder and Jerry get involved not only in player acquisition, but also in who starts and who doesn't. No thank you. And Jerry only won those rings by hiring a coach who stood up against his meddling, which he likely won't do again. He clearly prefers puppet coaches like Wade Phillips.

he still hired that coach and even a meddling owner who plays Gm has as good a record as our team does with a supposed actual gm.
He has three superbowl rings as an owner while our owner has yet to have a winning season in his 5 seasons as owner. In Jones tenure they have at least basically went to the playoffs half of the years he has owned them. Not many owners have three superbowl rings. As for Snyder yes I wouldn't want him either but at least he is not content with mediocrity. Seems like 7-9 to 8-8 is bliss to ross each season

 

[Penthos]

he still hired that coach and even a meddling owner who plays Gm has as good a record as our team does with a supposed actual gm.
He has three superbowl rings as an owner while our owner has yet to have a winning season in his 5 seasons as owner. In Jones tenure they have at least basically went to the playoffs half of the years he has owned them. Not many owners have three superbowl rings. As for Snyder yes I wouldn't want him either but at least he is not content with mediocrity. Seems like 7-9 to 8-8 is bliss to ross each season

That's why he said he had serious thinking to do ... Most likely people WILL lose their jobs. All because Ross thinks 8-8 is bliss? That makes about as much sense as Mogwai saying I don't care about the team. If Ross thought 7-9 and 8-8 were bliss, we'd still have Wanny or Sparano.

 

[dlockz]

Right, because flying across the country the country in a last ditch effort to land Harbaugh is not seeking someone out. Publicly saying you will do whatever it takes to get Peyton Manning to Miami is not agressively going after someone. Some of you are like Slot Machine junkies, just pull the wheel of coaches and grab some new coaches. Oh, they didn't work in two years? Yank that arm again!

Yea he flew across country without having a damn vacancy so basically only a real scumbag would even consider the job because he was too stupid to know this for himself. he can run his mouth all day but at the end of the day they didn't get Harbaugh because he is an idiot as an NFl owner and he didn't get Manning because he somehow didn't realize his team didn't have the salary cap space to sign him. WTF slot machine junkie , we have had the same GM for 6 damn years that's hardly just playing a slot machine, its more like playing the same number on roulette and hoping it will finally come in. Let the new Gm make the decision whether to keep anybody and lets move the hell on on. Lets actually try to do something new instead of just a new version of last year all over again

 

[Gonzo]

Right, because flying across the country the country in a last ditch effort to land Harbaugh is not seeking someone out. Publicly saying you will do whatever it takes to get Peyton Manning to Miami is not agressively going after someone. Some of you are like Slot Machine junkies, just pull that arm and see what coaches come up. Oh, they didn't work in two years? .... No problem, just yank that arm again and repeat.

I'm not opposed to keeping Philbin. Ireland has to go, obviously, but I'd be okay with Philbin staying. Sherman and Coyle, on the other hand, are horrible. It simply doesn't take that long to turn a team around anymore. Maybe it did back in the 70's or whatever, but in the modern NFL with cheap rookie contracts and free agency, there is no excuse for this team not being a playoff team, particularly with how weak the AFC, and AFC East in particular, was.

 

[dlockz]

That's why he said he had serious thinking to do ... Most likely people WILL lose their jobs. All because Ross thinks 8-8 is bliss? That makes about as much sense as Mogwai saying I don't care about the team. If Ross thought 7-9 and 8-8 were bliss, we'd still have Wanny or Sparano.

Well Ross did extend Sparano right after he wanted to fire him because somehow no other coach besides Harbaugh could do better. He continues to keep a GM that keeps getting the same results so obviously 8-8 is bliss

 

[Penthos]

I'm not opposed to keeping Philbin. Ireland has to go, obviously, but I'd be okay with Philbin staying. Sherman and Coyle, on the other hand, are horrible. It simply doesn't take that long to turn a team around anymore. Maybe it did back in the 70's or whatever, but in the modern NFL with cheap rookie contracts and free agency, there is no excuse for this team not being a playoff team, particularly with how weak the AFC, and AFC East in particular, was.

We agree, I'm not opposed to keeping Philbin. Nor am I completely opposed to letting him go, it depends on his replacement. But Ireland and Sherman need to be gone for sure. Coyle's problems are personnel based but I wouldn't be opposed to getting rid of him either.

 

[utahphinsfan]

Why not let me look at this situation. If MIA was to fire thier coach and GM this is how I would rank them in according to the other teams.

Houston - Best job OPEN IMO. Top pick to get your QB you want, and a heck of a defense. (think this is O'Brien anyway so unless you wanted him you are really not competing with them)
2nd (tied) - Detriot and MIA - Both seem to have franchise QBs. Both seem to have good players in place, if I was to give an edge here I would have to give it to MIA, because of better cap space, and not a bunch of undisciplined players on their Roster.
3rd - Minny - New stadium, AP and a pretty decent Roster
4th - TB - Depends if they like Glennon (sounds like Lovie Smith)
5th - CLE - Lot of Picks, decent talent on defense and arguablly a stud at WR in Gordon
6th - Washington - Medling Owners turn off coaches, Dallas would be here too because of that.

Then if I mention Oakland and Tenn, I think they fall

Tenn would be 4th
Oak would be 5th

Really based on this I would see you REALLY competing with Winny, Detriot, Clevland and Houston.

I think part of Minny's positives are the owner & a practical but loyal fanbase.