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Do you want Mike Wallace to be a Phin?

Are you in favor of signing Wallace?


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I agree with Walrus here. I get the feeling the thought is that you sign Mike Wallace and that position is fixed. That'll help pull that 8th man out of the box for the run game, but it still leaves us with a relatively subpar offense. Miami needs a dynamic one and two and a legit threat at TE, not a dynamic one and Hartline/Bess. I still think you sign either Jennings or Wallace and draft another receiver in the first 2 rounds. And I still think you draft one more receiver to replace Bess. I love Bess to death, but if we want a high powered quick-strike offense, he doesn't bring it to the table...

Agree. Just adding Wallace doesn't make our WR corps stellar. It takes us from below average to average.
 
Yes, because I do not trust Jeff Ireland to identify skill posistion players in the draft. He has failed miserably. So you gotta pay an established star to improve in that regard.
 
Wallace is a #2 WR. Can't believe how much money we are going to waste on him.
 
Yes, because I do not trust Jeff Ireland to identify skill posistion players in the draft. He has failed miserably. So you gotta pay an established star to improve in that regard.

But Mike Wallace isn't an established star. In fact, and I mean fact........ he sucks!

He ranked at the bottom of the league last year in almost all categories.

Stop gulping down the hype.
 
Has anyone ever wondered why the Steelers didn't resign Wallace?
 
Only at a maximum deal of 5 years and $60 million dollars. If someone else is willing to offer him more than that, let him walk.

What would really sting is if he signed with the Patsies for less than that kind of a deal.
 
Has anyone ever wondered why the Steelers didn't resign Wallace?

Depending on who is reporting, Wallace turned down a deal that average between $7 million and $10 million annually.

Steelers did want him, but the cannot afford him and gave that deal to Antonio Brown.
 
But Mike Wallace isn't an established star. In fact, and I mean fact........ he sucks!

He ranked at the bottom of the league last year in almost all categories.

Stop gulping down the hype.

:lol:

Using PFF and FO? Is that all you use? Opinion pieces? Do you watch the games yourself and come up with your own "breakdown"?

When a "advanced stats" website measures rankings its based on a positive/negative system. If they miss a block its a negative, so being ranked low on there rankings its BS. They also have Larry Fitzgerald BELOW Wallace so there opinion is nill to me. They also ALWAYS have Fasano ranked high, PFF had him top 5 for a few years, really? :lol:

Theres plenty of holes in there system like any system, it isn't used as a gospel. It's basically a opinion piece, and there rankings are subjective.
 
Simple fact here: Wallace gets open.

If anybody expect Wallace to be the type of player that pulls in 90+ passes and 1,300 yards, you are gravely mistaken.

Wallace is the break-the-game-open type of receiver, in that when teams sleep, they will pay. Another fact here: more space on the field means more space to operate. It opens everything up. It means defensive backs have to play softer coverage, and with a defense that's more spread out, there's more chances of gaining yards.

There's very few Calvin Johnson's out there. Wallace's huge salary wouldn't be based on his performance alone, but the flexibility that it gives the entire offense. It's all about finding complementary pieces to work with, and Wallace gives a huge flexibility in that area.
 
Hence my issue. I'd rather sign Jennings and take one WR in the first two rounds (Bailey is my top WR in the draft).

I don't think what this WR core needs is for everyone to go down a step in rank (which is what bringing Wallace in would do). I think it needs to be totally rebuilt (I like Matthews' potential, but he's the only guy I like long term).



I don't like Swope either.

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If Jennings is signed then the situation is different. Jennings is much more risky because of his advanced age than Wallace is IMO. With Wallace aboard, we still need another WR but the need is more way down the road (2014 in sight) because we could count on Wallace for several years of prime production, hence the luxury waiting till the 3rd round and gamble on a guy with a longer learning curve. If we sign Jennings, this could blow in our face as he's 1 or 2 more injuries away from being almost done as a prime WR in the NFL. That would be more careful to have a guy ready to play right in 2013 and in the best case scenario (without a Jennings injury) contributing in 2013 as a backup/4th WR and ready to take on as a #1-2 or 3 WR in 2014 when Bess walks.

That will not be popular but if we sign Wallace (as I hope), I would concentrate on the lines again. This is a stellar year for O linemen so give me Cooper or Lane Johnson in round #1 + Carradine in round 2 or another DL slipping out of the 1st round + another guard or tackle (depends on who is picked in the 1st) with our 2nd pick of the 2nd round. Add a corner + a WR with our 2 3rd rounders and I would call this offseason a success...
 
To add to my previous post, we have to remember that Incognito and Jerry are both FA next year and we'll certainly have a lot less available money to sign replacements. We better adress this Oline for good right now...
 
Once he starts delivering TD after TD everything is gonna forget about his salary - even though. I think, it's quite high.
 
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