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Does anyone really believe Quinn will really be available with the 9th pick ?

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Teams drafting in front of us



1: Raiders: NEED A QB
2: Lions: NEED A QB
3: Buccaneers: Simms isn't the answer, NEED A QB
4: Browns: are the browns sold on incumbant Charlie Frye, thin ice
5: Cardinals: Matt Lienart, not drafting qb
6: Redskins: Jason Campbell not drafting qb
7: Vikings: NEED A QB
8: Texans: Looks like Carr may be gone, NEED A QB
9: Dolphins: ?


So inconclusion 6 of the 8 (Frye situation could go either way)teams picking before us need a qb more than we do. If Quinn is as good as some of you believe do you really believe he'll still there when we pick ?
 
The Vikings drafted a QB in the 2nd round last year. You may say they need a QB, but for all intents and purposes that is not true. I would be comfortable saying that IF a team has ever drafted a first round QB the year after drafting a second round QB, then it only happened maybe once in the history of the league.
 
I highly doubt he will fall to #9. If Miami gets him, it will be because they traded up.
 
I'd give it a 40% chance now. It's possible, but a lot would have to happen to make it possible, i.e. trades, signings that make QB less of a priority for the eight teams in front of us.

I'm all about trading up if that's what it takes! I know that's not popular (and I usually would agree) but that's my take on Quinn's potential.
 
Captain Lou said:
Teams drafting in front of us



1: Raiders: NEED A QB
2: Lions: NEED A QB
3: Buccaneers: Simms isn't the answer, NEED A QB
4: Browns: are the browns sold on incumbant Charlie Frye, thin ice
5: Cardinals: Matt Lienart, not drafting qb
6: Redskins: Jason Campbell not drafting qb
7: Vikings: NEED A QB
8: Texans: Looks like Carr may be gone, NEED A QB
9: Dolphins: ?


So inconclusion 6 of the 8 (Frye situation could go either way)teams picking before us need a qb more than we do. If Quinn is as good as some of you believe do you really believe he'll still there when we pick ?
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Lions (Matt Millen) cannot afford another QB bust pic that high. The fans already organized a rally to fire him. So they will go safe in the draft and you know QB's are usually hit or miss. Browns need a RB more than a QB at this time (Drougns is not getting it done) and AP is too good to pass up. They would go o-line before QB if Thomas is there-that line is in shambles.
The bucs have draft pics and money tied up in Simms and Grad and CJ will be staring them in the face. They also are desparate on the DL. My mother ran for 120 and 2 TDS against the skins D-line so they will not take QB. Arizona obviously doesn't need a qb. Minny just drafted a QB and are the most likely to trade up with Cleveland for CJ. Lastly, the wildcard is Jake Plummer and David Carr. They are really the only threat I see right now. Also, every year some combine freak jumps into the top ten and screws every scenario up-so take my post with a grain of salt.
 
Captain Lou said:
Teams drafting in front of us



1: Raiders: NEED A QB
2: Lions: NEED A QB
3: Buccaneers: Simms isn't the answer, NEED A QB
4: Browns: are the browns sold on incumbant Charlie Frye, thin ice
5: Cardinals: Matt Lienart, not drafting qb
6: Redskins: Jason Campbell not drafting qb
7: Vikings: NEED A QB
8: Texans: Looks like Carr may be gone, NEED A QB
9: Dolphins: ?


So inconclusion 6 of the 8 (Frye situation could go either way)teams picking before us need a qb more than we do. If Quinn is as good as some of you believe do you really believe he'll still there when we pick ?
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i don't believe he will be there, but some of the teams you mentioned are apparently gun shy about picking a QB that early like detroit.

also throw in the fact that some of the top players are also in the mix that teams don't want to pass on either like c. johnson (every team mentioned can use except the cards), adams, and j. thomas who look like safer picks. also what team couldn't use peterson except for the bucs if they are sold on caddie?
 
ckparrothead said:
The Vikings drafted a QB in the 2nd round last year. You may say they need a QB, but for all intents and purposes that is not true. I would be comfortable saying that IF a team has ever drafted a first round QB the year after drafting a second round QB, then it only happened maybe once in the history of the league.
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And the Texans are likely to get Plummer. The Browns, Lions, and Bucs are likely to get any combo of Thomas, Peterson, and Johnson, so that hopefully knocks them out of the loop.
 
Don't the Vikings have one of the best offensive lines in the NFL?

If that's true it doesn't leave much room for execuses by their QB's does it.

If they don't make a move in free agency, they will be looking real hard at Quinn.
 
Hey CK, i can't ever recall a team taking a qb in the first/second rounds of successive years... but we did just invest (not draft) a second on DC last year, and I am one of many dolfans who would love to use our first on brady this year. Just thought that was kind of funny.
 
ckparrothead said:
The Vikings drafted a QB in the 2nd round last year. You may say they need a QB, but for all intents and purposes that is not true. I would be comfortable saying that IF a team has ever drafted a first round QB the year after drafting a second round QB, then it only happened maybe once in the history of the league.
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Granted. You counter argument makes sense. However, there is still 5 more teams likely to pick a qb. I don't want Quinn, but I could live with it. I think he's a better option than Russell. I'd like to draft someone at a position who helps us win now. I know many of you don't like CP at qb. However, he's our best chance. He came back too early last year, but can blame him he's a competitor. He wants to play, and this year he'll have something to prove.
 
Captain Lou said:
Granted. You counter argument makes sense. However, there is still 5 more teams likely to pick a qb. I don't want Quinn, but I could live with it. I think he's a better option than Russell. I'd like to draft someone at a position who helps us win now. I know many of you don't like CP at qb. However, he's our best chance. He came back too early last year, but can blame him he's a competitor. He wants to play, and this year he'll have something to prove.
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I agree with you that Quinn is the better pro prospect than Russell. And I also think that CP will be our starting QB for at least this year if not another year. I just think that a young QB for the future in maybe a year or two would be great long term for the team. But CP definitly needs to get fully rehabbed and have a good year for us.
 
Finsfan1984 said:
But CP definitly needs to get fully rehabbed and have a good year for us.
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This is the only way we make the playoffs in '07. But we definitely have to have an eye on the future too, rather than pass on Quinn and try to live off what could end up being short-term success under 'Pepper.
 
DolfanTom said:
I'd give it a 40% chance now. It's possible, but a lot would have to happen to make it possible, i.e. trades, signings that make QB less of a priority for the eight teams in front of us.

I'm all about trading up if that's what it takes! I know that's not popular (and I usually would agree) but that's my take on Quinn's potential.
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I agree completely. I hate trading up, but giving up our first and third for a franchise QB doesn't sound to bad to me.
 
I feel we will have to trade up to guarantee we grab him.......may fall to #9 or we get him after someone else picks him up.....like Manning a couple years ago!
It all depends on what Cam sees as a priority.....he seems to indicate QB is one of our top concerns and it IS!!!!:lifter:

Maybe Culpepper is our answer....yet to be proven....I would sleep better at night if we land Quinn!:D
 
Elliott 1 said:
Don't the Vikings have one of the best offensive lines in the NFL?

If that's true it doesn't leave much room for execuses by their QB's does it.

If they don't make a move in free agency, they will be looking real hard at Quinn.
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Minnesota needs a receiving threat more than anything.
 
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