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Does Tannehill Even Have The Opportunity To Succeed?

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I know Tannehill threads are in quite the abundance lately, however, I've started to ponder this question...

"Does Tannehill Even Have The Opportunity To Succeed?"

What we are asking Tannehill to currently do is pretty damn demanding when put in perspective with what we have. I've posted this in a few other threads but with many calling for a change at QB, we need to be clear of what we are currently asking that QB to come in and do...

1) Be able to overcome terrible coaching with equally terrible play calling (hopefully Tannehill outlives this)
2) Be in an offensive scheme where you have zero freedom to audible out in and out of plays
3) Be stuck behind an offensive line that cannot provide solid protection and delivers little to no time to throw
4) Be consistently durable as you are going to take a lot of hits
5) Be a part of an offense with zero presence of a run game
6) Be completely aware that you are expected to pour on points because your defense doesn't have the ability to stop your opponent

What I get from this is that you're expected to consistently perform to an elite level in a completely one dimensional offensive scheme that has no defense to take the pressure off of the offense all the while being completely handcuffed. Defenses can pinpoint your strength and exploit it because it is all you can offer. Mistakes made are magnified and put additional pressure.

I'm not saying that every team doesn't have to face adversity like these circumstances in some way shape or form...

I am also not saying that anyone can effectively deny that he isn't struggling right now. Everyone here is at least aware that he misses throws (it's not exactly a secret as the naysayers would probably like to think of it...)

However, as many want him gone and many want him to stay, can anyone truthfully say that he is the reason we are losing games and looking as bad as what we are? Is he helping the situation? Not really. However, does bringing in anyone else solve our problems? Cast us out of this funk we are in?

Since when has Tannehill balling out ever been able to overcome our defense? It never happened last year to my knowledge. Do I dare bring up the Detroit game again? Green Bay? Denver?

I'm sure many see things differently, however, to me it seems as though he is being put through the wringer, getting the s*** knocked out of him constantly, all for something that has never really mattered in the past.

It's either going to end in one of three ways...

1) He eventually gets the help he needs that will allow him to grow as a player
2) Things will continue until he gets hurt and we understand these things to be true by someone else coming in with zero change
3) He is traded off

At this point, I'd rather see him traded off so he at least has the chance to be successful somewhere else that understands the importance of a solid line. Because if not, option 2 is a strong front runner and we can all at least probably agree that under this regime, number 1 isn't going to happen...
 
Stop it... he would not be successful in any system if everything around him isn't perfect.. give it up.. he is not a winner.. wasn't in college and still isn't in the NFL.. .why is this so hard to understand?
 
I don't think he's being setup to succeed. We'll never know though until he's with a new coaching staff.
 
Stop it... he would not be successful in any system if everything around him isn't perfect.. give it up.. he is not a winner.. wasn't in college and still isn't in the NFL.. .why is this so hard to understand?

What nonsense....
 
Replace 'Tannehill' with 'anyone on the Dolphins' and I still couldn't answer that question for you.

How do you think Lamar Miller feels right now?
 
I say let Tannehill audible for a few games. I saw a few plays in the Falcons game where Matt Ryan switched out of plays and made some great decisions. Not to bring up Matt Ryan (a sore topic, I know). But, I would like to see what Tannehill would do with the opportunity. I think it would also be a great way for Tannehill to demonstrate whether or not he has the mental capacity to play the position at a high level.
 
why are we still arguing about this? arguing with a tannehill fanboy is like arguing with someone who watches fox news. they'll never get it, and if they actually did they'd never admit to it anyway.
 
Honestly anyone that thinks RT17 is the issue, needs to watch a different sport. We are very lucky to have him. No QB could do anything positive in this system with the current cloud that is hovering over this team since the Jags game.

Unfortunately unless we get some amazing HC hire, this is going to be a throw year for every player on this team.
 
Replace 'Tannehill' with 'anyone on the Dolphins' and I still couldn't answer that question for you.

How do you think Lamar Miller feels right now?

That's essentially what I am asking. If people think that a QB change will turn things around, what about everyone else...
 
Honestly anyone that thinks RT17 is the issue, needs to watch a different sport. We are very lucky to have him. No QB could do anything positive in this system with the current cloud that is hovering over this team since the Jags game.

Unfortunately unless we get some amazing HC hire, this is going to be a throw year for every player on this team.

Watching QBs like Rodgers, Brady, etc. play is like watching another sport.
 
come on, Tannehill is a good QB. Look how he played in the first game against Washington: Superb. Tannehill has no blocking, he is constantly pressured every play. Tannehill has the receiving weapons and a decent RB whom, if you give him holes, he will run well. The left side of our OL is the only problem we have right now on offense. I have a strong feeling our players arent playing well purposely, to get rid of Philbin.
 
That's essentially what I am asking. If people think that a QB change will turn things around, what about everyone else...

I'm all for putting Matt Moore in there and seeing what happens. I suspect the result will not be any better.

Nobody's playing well right now except for our punter. It really is 2007 all over again.
 
Watching QBs like Rodgers, Brady, etc. play is like watching another sport.

Sorry they wouldn't be able to do anything positive on this team, this year. Especially after the Jags game. That Jags game would have crushed anything positive on any team.

And for the record, I'm not sure why you are trying to compare any of those QB's to RT17. I've never seen anyone here ever compare RT17 to them.
 
What nonsense....

How so?

Honestly anyone that thinks RT17 is the issue, needs to watch a different sport. We are very lucky to have him. No QB could do anything positive in this system with the current cloud that is hovering over this team since the Jags game.

Unfortunately unless we get some amazing HC hire, this is going to be a throw year for every player on this team.

So we are lucky to have a starting QB with a sub .500 winning record... Miami Dolphins fans have literally drank too much kool-aid...in two years you will still be making excuses about how Tanny never got the help he needed to succeed on this team. If I played in the NFL and had everything perfect around me, I'd be an elite QB also. Give it up, this team is terrible, starting with the head coach down to the QB.
 
Replace 'Tannehill' with 'anyone on the Dolphins' and I still couldn't answer that question for you.

How do you think Lamar Miller feels right now?

Probably like running out of bounds on any wide run...miller running out of bounds killed me today...put your shoulder down and get north and south...ehhh who am i kidding it wouldnt have mattered
 
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