Does the NFL need an increased salary cap?

[enigmatics]

.............I was listening to Bob Kemp on 1060am Sporting News Radio out here in AZ on my way to the gym and he made an excellent point - the NFL's salary cap is not acceptable in order for teams to groom their own......it just isn't. He went on to point out that team's have two options - either pay your guy top dollar and be forced to enlist 1st and 2nd year players at vital positions every year or not pay the guy and spread the money around a little. Evidently teams are now averaging 10 to 11 first and second year players now earning active roster spots with the number rising consistently.

What do you all think? Don't get me wrong, I'd never want to see our cap run the way the NBA has run theirs or God help us if there was ever a day when a Yankee-type team could exist in the NFL with no salary cap.

I don't know........ to me though, it should have been the utmost importance to keep a guy like Patrick Surtain on this team, lord knows he earned it. Yet our league isn't set up to better enable us to do so. Few teams have ever been able to juggle rosters efficiently with the cap in its existing state - namely the Patriots - and it's not realistic to think every team will be able to copycat that every year. Eventually the Patriots will fade at some point, stop winning titles and then the lure of playing for them and not feeling underpaid as a top athlete on that squad will wear off.

 

[CitizenSnips]

they increase it almost every year a little bit. I think a year or two ago they added like 5 Mill.

 

[enigmatics]

they increase it almost every year a little bit. I think a year or two ago they added like 5 Mill.

Do you feel as though it's realistic though? The increase mostly comes from revenues generated from TV and Cable deals.

 

[CitizenSnips]

well, its not a lot by any means as far as players go. I mean 5 mill more is just assuring you that you can sing like one more or two players. But i think the Nfl needs to keep it the way it is no matter what. its just more fun that way. Eventually every team is gonna fall, but eventually every team is gonna rise too. I like that. See, miami went from 10-6 to 4-12. these things happen. and because parody rules, theres nothing stopping us from going 10-6 again.

 

[Dphins4me]

.............I was listening to Bob Kemp on 1060am Sporting News Radio out here in AZ on my way to the gym and he made an excellent point - the NFL's salary cap is not acceptable in order for teams to groom their own......it just isn't. He went on to point out that team's have two options - either pay your guy top dollar and be forced to enlist 1st and 2nd year players at vital positions every year or not pay the guy and spread the money around a little. Evidently teams are now averaging 10 to 11 first and second year players now earning active roster spots with the number rising consistently.

What do you all think? Don't get me wrong, I'd never want to see our cap run the way the NBA has run theirs or God help us if there was ever a day when a Yankee-type team could exist in the NFL with no salary cap.

I don't know........ to me though, it should have been the utmost importance to keep a guy like Patrick Surtain on this team, lord knows he earned it. Yet our league isn't set up to better enable us to do so. Few teams have ever been able to juggle rosters efficiently with the cap in its existing state - namely the Patriots - and it's not realistic to think every team will be able to copycat that every year. Eventually the Patriots will fade at some point, stop winning titles and then the lure of playing for them and not feeling underpaid as a top athlete on that squad will wear off.

I've always felt there should be a discount on resigning your own draft picks and depending on where you picked them then you get a larger discount off your cap. The lower the round the higher the discount on the following deals.

This would reward teams for drafting well instead of having to watch players they took a chance on leave for better pay.

This would also allow fans to get to know the players again, instead of needing a whos where book every year.

 

[unifiedtheory]

I've said for years that the NFL needs a provision in the salary cap where teams can sign players they drafted.

The salary cap is a great thing because it keeps all the teams on a level playing field. That being said, it also penalizes teams that do a good job drafting. You simply can't keep all your home grown players.

I hope in the next CBA negotiation Gene "Paul Tagliabue's Biatch" Upshaw does something about this.

Get the players a bigger cut of the money, add an exempt players stipulation ( 2-4 players per team don't count under the cap AS LONG as you drafted that player ). Take a look at what kind of salary cap shape we'd be in if you took Jason Taylor, Zach Thomas and Sam Madisons contract off the Dolphins cap.

The next CBA should make it easier for teams to retain their talent. This would help every team.

 

[godfater21]

More teams just need to be like philly and not pay those ridiculous salaries. and if a player wants to hold out just give him a big F and a big U. players salaries are outragouse IMO. i also hate it how rookies can hold out when they haven't even set foot on an NFL field yet. don't expand it, crack down.

 

[Dolfan4life34]

but this sport makes the least money of all of them which is the rediculous part knowing that basketball players make twice as much as football players do a yr

 

[Jimmy James]

If the cap were increased 20%, you'd find agents asking for 20% more for their clients. It's a supply and demand thing figured on a percentage basis. If you make the pie 20% bigger, there are still only 100% to go around.

If you guys want to pay more for tickets, jerseys, and things like Sunday Ticket, go ahead and support a massive salary cap increase.

 

[godfater21]

but this sport makes the least money of all of them which is the rediculous part knowing that basketball players make twice as much as football players do a yr

Basketball players get paid wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to much. they have a $44 million and a 12 man roster what the hell is up with that. NFL has a $85.5 million cap and a 53 man roster. The NFL has 4 times as many players on there roster and there cap isn't even 2 times what the NBA cap is. NBA should lower there Cap to about $20 million

 

[Alien]

but this sport makes the least money of all of them which is the rediculous part knowing that basketball players make twice as much as football players do a yr

do you expect sympathy? well... your not getting it from me, these people are paid to play a GAME for a living, dangerous yes and tough but to most FUN. Players get paid at the very least like 200,000 a year, OH NO, i dont have a family of my own but i think id be able to find SOME way to feed my family with that. the nfl does not need a larger salary cap, if these players are signing with so much money they are being greedy to other players... eventually contracts that get bigger than vick or mannings wont be given, teams will let another team sign that amount, why give all your money to one player when you can use that money to get SEVEN or so GOOD players. i think the system the nfl has right now is perfect except for being able to sign a couple of players your team drafted so that you can reap the benifets of developing that talent.

 

[enigmatics]

do you expect sympathy? well... your not getting it from me, these people are paid to play a GAME for a living, dangerous yes and tough but to most FUN. Players get paid at the very least like 200,000 a year, OH NO, i dont have a family of my own but i think id be able to find SOME way to feed my family with that. the nfl does not need a larger salary cap, if these players are signing with so much money they are being greedy to other players... eventually contracts that get bigger than vick or mannings wont be given, teams will let another team sign that amount, why give all your money to one player when you can use that money to get SEVEN or so GOOD players. i think the system the nfl has right now is perfect except for being able to sign a couple of players your team drafted so that you can reap the benifets of developing that talent.

Whether professional athletes are deserving of the kind of money they're seeing is a whole seperate argument. I'm strictly talking from a "to be able to keep and groom your own" argument.

 

[Fin Fan in Cali]

Whether professional athletes are deserving of the kind of money they're seeing is a whole seperate argument. I'm strictly talking from a "to be able to keep and groom your own" argument.

I have to agree, I enjoy watching my favorite Dolphin players, and to be able to have the money to keep them together on the team is priceless! I hated to see Pat go, but it's part of the business, but if teh cap was higher maybe that wouldn't of had to happen.

 

[Jimmy James]

I have to agree, I enjoy watching my favorite Dolphin players, and to be able to have the money to keep them together on the team is priceless! I hated to see Pat go, but it's part of the business, but if teh cap was higher maybe that wouldn't of had to happen.

It would have. The key to keeping the nucleus of a team together is in creating an environment where players will accept less to stay and to make trims to keep the cap situation healthier than it has been in Miami on occasion.

Look at the NBA for your answers. They even have a rule that gives a person's present team an advantage, but they can't keep the likes of Jason Kidd and Kenyon Martin together.

 

[Fin Fan in Cali]

It would have. The key to keeping the nucleus of a team together is in creating an environment where players will accept less to stay and to make trims to keep the cap situation healthier than it has been in Miami on occasion.

Look at the NBA for your answers. They even have a rule that gives a person's present team an advantage, but they can't keep the likes of Jason Kidd and Kenyon Martin together.

I guess I miss the old school days where players started, and finished with the same teams. When players, and owners had loyalty to each other.