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First of all, this isn't a "knock Joey Harrington" thread, but something he's said in the past bothers me. When Joey said he likes to be told what to do and doesn't like to improvise, that makes me question his potential at QB. Those are the words of a system quarterback who may never be a franchise quarterback (a legacy of sorts for Tedford QBs).

It isn't that Joey isn't a smart guy. I've seen his press conferences and interviews and he's an intelligent, well-spoken guy and I don't understand why he needs things drawn out for him. The most dangerous quarterbacks are the ones that can make things happen when the play breaks down and they can improvise.

Joey has started a lot of games in this league and I understand that the coaching he had in Detroit was subpar and he has done a decent job of running the offense in Miami. It's just an enigma why an intelligent, hard-working QB with a good arm and a really good release can't be better than he's been in this league and why he would make such a statement.

Anyway, Joey has played well enough for us to win and just poorly enough for us to lose the last two games. I'd take two INTs off his stats (one bounced right off Welker and one Chambers bounced right into the air). It will be interesting to see how Joey plays the rest of the year and to see if Daunte will be able to play like the Daunte of old in the future.
 
It doesn't bother me. What he meant is that he wanted to be a "system" QB, like Tom Brady is to the Patriots and Ben Roethlisberger is to the Steelers.

Joey Harrington has shown great leadership on the field and on the sidelines. He is doing his job well, and I hope he continues to get better. If he turns out to be a system QB for us, then great. I wouldn't mind.

System QB's are much more mistake free than those who like to improvise. Joey still got a few things to work on, but I'm sure he can get it done.
 
Vertical Limit said:
It doesn't bother me. What he meant is that he wanted to be a "system" QB, like Tom Brady is to the Patriots and Ben Roethlisberger is to the Steelers.

Joey Harrington has shown great leadership on the field and on the sidelines. He is doing his job well, and I hope he continues to get better. If he turns out to be a system QB for us, then great. I wouldn't mind.

System QB's are much more mistake free than those who like to improvise. Joey still got a few things to work on, but I'm sure he can get it done.
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I agree that Joey has done well for us and that he has shown good leadership. But the difference between a Tom Brady and a Joey Harrington right now is that Brady is very good at improvising, and by improvising, I don't mean being reckless with the football. Brady is also money in the 4th quarter. Joey isn't there yet. I hope he can get there one day, and hopefully as a Dolphin (hopefully this Sunday! :D ).
 
brady has also had how many years with his offense? joeys has had what about 2 1/2 weeks? I think had he been the starter from game 1, hed look alot different
 
In my opinion, Joey hasn't had guidence from anyone since comig to the NFL. Detroit said here's the ball, go win games. I take that statement as saying "tell me what you want me to do, instead of me just doinganything." I feel the same way. I play baskeball and upuntil this year my coaches have said "heres the play, make it work" and I have struggled. I got a new coach this year and he has shown what he wants and I am playing much better.
 
Joey just wants some direction, some answers to potential problems. He said the Lions said if this guy's not open then just make a play, Saban said if this guy's not open then go to this one. Joey just prefers to have planned backup, which makes a LOT of sense. Considering he DID win a FEW games for the Lions, he must have some ability to improvise, don't worry, he'll be fine.
 
Joey just doesn't have the improvisational part of the game. He won't break containment and run or scramble much to throw. He's played QB long enough to be able to do it so it's just missing from his game. He's still worth a 5th or 6th rounder.
 
zonk4ever said:
Joey just doesn't have the improvisational part of the game. He won't break containment and run or scramble much to throw. He's played QB long enough to be able to do it so it's just missing from his game. He's still worth a 5th or 6th rounder.
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Remind you of anybody?
 
Rugged Ronnie23 said:
Trade Culpepper for Brees
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brees is bought and paid for... plan on him never leaving NO.. unless they move the team. definately a mistake, but hindsight is 20/20. i wanted culpepper too... mainly because he wanted to play here. but things just arent working out. JH is ok.. i would like to see some trickery this weekend with vick... give me something to watch!!!
 
Rugged Ronnie23 said:
Trade Culpepper for Brees
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Not a very well thought out idea.

Now given what we know about Dante, what would be NO's reason to destroy their team with this move?

They have TVs too. They see how awful DC has played.
 
endorPHINS72 said:
I agree that Joey has done well for us and that he has shown good leadership. But the difference between a Tom Brady and a Joey Harrington right now is that Brady is very good at improvising, and by improvising, I don't mean being reckless with the football. Brady is also money in the 4th quarter. Joey isn't there yet. I hope he can get there one day, and hopefully as a Dolphin (hopefully this Sunday! :D ).
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:confused: Sure did look like he was there in the 4th quarter Jets game :D I don't understand where your coming from, how does Brady improvise? And do you honestly expect Joey to play like Brady when he's only had 2 games so far with the team?
 
I get real tired of the wonder what joey would be like if he was the starter since day one. Other than his timing might be a little better, which really it isn't that bad I don't know how much better he would be at this point.
Last time I checked he still practiced the same offense as the first teamers do. He has a playbook he can study whenever he wants too.

If your going to knock off two interceptions like they never happened than I am sure there are a few of DC's that weren't totally his fault as well.
joey's int to welker or whoever it was, was thrown behind the receiver considerably.

bluehaze.... you think joey was there in the fourth quarter????? WTF????
maybe half of it. on the last drive when we needed him to be on the most, he was too busy airmailing his passes, and burning WAY too much time off the clock for a 2 minute drill.

As much as I would like to, I just can't bring myself to say joey is superior to any other QB we have right now. no wins, not many points being scored.

I would love to see us go into a fourth quarter with a 14 point lead, where we could just run the ball, and give our Defense the rest it deserves.
our D, has kept us in every game, the offense really needs to show me something this week.
we are playing Green Bay for crying out loud.
 
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