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The Miami Dolphins plan to abandon their push for tax relief in favor of asking Miami-Dade to pay the team for recruiting Super Bowl and other major events to a renovated Sun Life Stadium, according to three people close to the team’s plans.

Dolphins owner Stephen Ross had been negotiating with Miami-Dade, the school system and Miami Gardens to have the county take over ownership of the stadium, which would free the team of a yearly property-tax bill worth nearly $4 million. The Dolphins are Miami Gardens’ top taxpayer, and the team faced resistance from both the city’s mayor and the superintendent of the county school system, which receives about $1 million yearly in Sun Life taxes.

Details of the new plan weren’t available Tuesday morning. The broad outline of the plan is that Ross would use private dollars to renovate the stadium, and Miami-Dade would then pay the team an unknown amount of money for each major event the stadium brings. Those events would include Super Bowls, World Cup soccer, and national college championship and play-off games, according to people familiar with the talks between the Dolphins and Gimenez.
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The change by Ross comes as David Beckham backed off his pursuit of PortMiami for a new soccer stadium in favor of a downtown site, and as the Miami Heat said it would take lower subsidies than the team first proposed in renegotiating its current operating agreement at the county-owned AmericanAirlines Arena.
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Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/05/20/4126102/dolphins-abandoning-tax-relief.html#storylink=cpy
 
Seems fair to me. Stephen Ross and the city are both stakeholders in the events, and I think sharing the costs for those events seems reasonable.
 
Except that if this plan is realized it means all renovations will be made with all possible events in mind. That means the fans will not be very close to the action as it will be the opposite of a football specific redesign. :(

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hahahahaha

Getting worse and worse for Ross...

Eventually he will reach Phase 5: Pay for it yourself. :lol:
 
DeathStar said:
hahahahaha

Getting worse and worse for Ross...

Eventually he will reach Phase 5: Pay for it yourself. :lol:
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Did you even read the article? He is paying for the stadium out of pocket. This article wasn't about the stadium costs, it was about event recruitment costs.
 
reading takes to much time...

So he is fronting the stadium costs....forgoing a tax break...(most teams have one or the other and in many cases...both)....all he wants is for the communities financial support in recruiting large events in which members of the community will benefit...

He has also mentioned several times to use local workers for this project as well....
 
DeathStar said:
hahahahaha

Getting worse and worse for Ross...

Eventually he will reach Phase 5: Pay for it yourself. :lol:
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Do a little article reading before pulling the typical buzz killington post. Probably takes all of a few minutes.
 
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Its a better deal for the taxpayers on paper but I doubt they see it that way.
 
im not a taxpayer, I dont go to games. The last deal sounded fair to me. If they keep this up the next owner will move the team within a week of buying it from Ross, small market, small attendances, small sponsorship, small sales, small tv figures, Miami is a dead end NFL city - don't like me saying that? tough its true. The last deal gave ross one of the worst deals in the nfl, its interesting the see the desperate lengths he is taking to keep the team in Miami with apparently no interest from the City in keeping the team.

Ah well maybe they would try move the Jags south if all this falls appart, the Miami Jaguars wouldnt be so bad
 
Anyone who's pissing and moaning should read this arrticle concerning the better deals that a myriad of billionaire owners exacted from the public coffers directly and indirectly (see "Santa Clara") - both front end in terms of financing and backend in terms of tax benefits (Jerry Jones pays none) and the ability to keep all the revenues generated from concessions, parking, etc. If labeling Ross a "clown" maybe some visceral Pavlovian dribblers should consider what that makes the owners of the Vikings, Redskins, 49'ers, Buccaneers, the Falcons, among others ya think?

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/10/how-the-nfl-fleeces-taxpayers/309448/
 
Seems like the city is playing hard ball with Ross and the Dolphins. Other teams have had better cooperation with the city. Why are the Dolphins finding it difficult? Is it because Ross has made enemies or because other teams like the Marlins have soured the city? The Dolphins have been a staple in South Florida for a long time seems wrong to me.
 
matt11390 said:
Seems like the city is playing hard ball with Ross and the Dolphins. Other teams have had better cooperation with the city. Why are the Dolphins finding it difficult? Is it because Ross has made enemies or because other teams like the Marlins have soured the city? The Dolphins have been a staple in South Florida for a long time seems wrong to me.
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The Marlins changed everything...

The taxpayers got hosed with the deal and then after year 1, they firesaled the team...

Plus, ordinary people are getting pissed off that tax dollars are going to billionaires...
 
Update

The newest twist is Ross is now asking for Miami-Dade County to pay him some of the incremental value for big events that are lured to the stadium (Super Bowls, college football title games) with that payment coming after the event, according to an official involved.

Ross is updating NFL owners today at league meetings in Atlanta. The Dolphins hope the renovations can be finalized in time for them to be a serious player for the 2019 Super Bowl.
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Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/spor...sion-heat-seantrel-warning.html#storylink=cpy
 
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