Dolphin's biggest mistake

[dlockz]

Was not addressing OLine properly in the past two drafts. Our line is pretty bad with no studs at all on line and we draft projects two years in a row. Neither of these guys has contributed at all to our oline and I seriously doubt either one will. We cannot afford to pass on our weakest area over and over again. Jason Allen was a luxury pick that we truly could not afford especially when there were plenty of corners and safeties available later in the draft that could have been decent. We should have traded down with Pitt and took Justice or Joseph and continued to build our line. Not to even mention that the WR we drafted can not even be our third receiver. I think the line will play better as the year goes on but it has a fairly low ceiling on how good the player's can be. At best this line can become decent in its current state.
For those that want to talk about how good Toledo looked in training camp, you can keep that info since Training camp does not show up in the box score. We need to quit judging how players look at combine and in shorts and actually judge them on doing something on game day. The line blocked like a bunch of girls, hmm sorry ladies I think girls could have blocked better.

 

[SarahAnn]

*waves arms in the air and laughs in the faces of many forums members who said that very problem was solved 2 years ago*

 

[Tommy_Cane]

jason allen was a luxury?? hahaha. who exactly was available later in the draft did you have in mind?

 

[Coral Reefer]

*waves arms in the air and laughs in the faces of many forums members who said that very problem was solved 2 years ago*

Yeah I remember that.

The original poster has a point but we all have to remember that we've had a lot of positions run dry under the Wann-Spiel era of drafting. The current staff has a lot, and I mean a lot of holes they had to fill and still need to fill. Way too many holes to have fixed in 2 seasons.

They've done a good job getting younger on D, got a young RB of the future and brought in great QB prospects.
Yes OL is still a problem but you can only fix so much at once.

 

[SarahAnn]

Yeah I remember that.

The original poster has a point but we all have to remember that we've had a lot of positions run dry under the Wann-Spiel era of drafting. The current staff has a lot, and I mean a lot of holes they had to fill and still need to fill. Way too many holes to have fixed in 2 seasons.

They've done a good job getting younger on D, got a young RB of the future and brought in great QB prospects.
Yes OL is still a problem but you can only fix so much at once.

I left these forums for awhile because of all the flak I was getting by people saying our O-Line problem was fixed. Also all the flak I was getting for saying Ricky wouldnt be able to stay off the weed.

here a year later, wheres Ricky, hows our O-Line? *sigh*

 

[dlockz]

jason allen was a luxury?? hahaha. who exactly was available later in the draft did you have in mind?

Plenty
Jonathon Joeseph SC CB Late first
Jimmy Williams VaTech S_CB Early 2nd
Daniel Bullocks NEb S
Roman Harper ALA S Starting for NO
Cedric Griffin Tex CB-S
ASh Youbuty Ohio St CB-S
Anthony Smith (Syra) S
Eric Smith Mich St S
Ko Simpson NC st S 4th Round
Alan Zemetics PSU CB
PaT Watkins FSU S starting safety for Dallas

Hell Dewan Laundry drafted second day by Balt is actually starting.
Allen is on the bench behind very average players and the line is in worse shape than secondary.

 

[dlockz]

Yeah I remember that.

The original poster has a point but we all have to remember that we've had a lot of positions run dry under the Wann-Spiel era of drafting. The current staff has a lot, and I mean a lot of holes they had to fill and still need to fill. Way too many holes to have fixed in 2 seasons.

They've done a good job getting younger on D, got a young RB of the future and brought in great QB prospects.
Yes OL is still a problem but you can only fix so much at once.

You fix the biggest problems and taking projects to fix problems doesnt help much. Not to mention we did not sign Turley and he is now starting LT for KC. Did Hagen, Allen, Toledo, Alabi or even Roth make any differance tonight in whether we won or loss. Hell Toledo is where he always is when the games begin, nursing an injury. Hell if you don't fix oline none of the other stuff matters once they have knocked out a QB or two, Dinged up your runningback and tired out your defense from thier ineptness.

Note was not saying that Turly was answer but he cannot get a chance to make our team and is starting LT on a good line.

 

[Jimmy James]

If a lineman were taken in the first, somebody else would be correctly scolding Saban for the lack of attention paid to the secondary. They're both issues for this team. If you're going to argue about a pick, I think it's the Hagan pick. Miami could have probably gotten a guard who could upgrade the line on the interior with that pick. You have to keep Booker or accept that you have a hole at WR next year if you do that, though.

The truth may be (and I'm not conceding it yet) that this team isn't a team of 2006 because there are still too many holes. We'll see.

 

[Tommy_Cane]

Plenty
Jonathon Joeseph SC CB Late first
Jimmy Williams VaTech S_CB Early 2nd
Daniel Bullocks NEb S
Roman Harper ALA S Starting for NO
Cedric Griffin Tex CB-S
ASh Youbuty Ohio St CB-S
Anthony Smith (Syra) S
Eric Smith Mich St S
Ko Simpson NC st S 4th Round
Alan Zemetics PSU CB
PaT Watkins FSU S starting safety for Dallas

Hell Dewan Laundry drafted second day by Balt is actually starting.
Allen is on the bench behind very average players and the line is in worse shape than secondary.

it sounds like you're saying Allen is a bust already. no?

 

[Coral Reefer]

You fix the biggest problems and taking projects to fix problems doesnt help much. Not to mention we did not sign Turley and he is now starting LT for KC. Did Hagen, Allen, Toledo, Alabi or even Roth make any differance tonight in whether we won or loss. Hell Toledo is where he always is when the games begin, nursing an injury.

I'm not disagreeing with you man.
Just pointing out that the cupboard was left very bare, actually almost completely empty, of young talent from the last regime.

 

[dlockz]

it sounds like you're saying Allen is a bust already. no?

No I will not say that so early in the game. I willsay Toledo was a waste of a pick though and look at what he did in college and show me he was worth taking. Injured half of his college career and all of NFL career so far. Way too early to call Allen a bust. He should be a good player but we did take him too high in my opinion. Watkins was my favorite safety in draft and is starting.

 

[dlockz]

I'm not disagreeing with you man.
Just pointing out that the cupboard was left very bare, actually almost completely empty, of young talent from the last regime.

No doubt but oline has been a problem since we decided to gut our oline all in the same year.The last time we had a decent oline was the year Ricky had 1800 yards. With an oline like he had the following year I would be smoking weed just to be ready.

 

[Tommy_Cane]

i also never liked the toledo pick, but i'm not paid to evaluate talent.

but allen missed out on preseason & practice time. i'm confident he'll be an asset to this team soon. it took ronnie some time to get in his groove too.

 

[dlockz]

If a lineman were taken in the first, somebody else would be correctly scolding Saban for the lack of attention paid to the secondary. They're both issues for this team. If you're going to argue about a pick, I think it's the Hagan pick. Miami could have probably gotten a guard who could upgrade the line on the interior with that pick. You have to keep Booker or accept that you have a hole at WR next year if you do that, though.

The truth may be (and I'm not conceding it yet) that this team isn't a team of 2006 because there are still too many holes. We'll see.

I agree to a degree but we had a chance to trade down and address both by trading with Pittsburgh.

 

[endorPHINS72]

I left these forums for awhile because of all the flak I was getting by people saying our O-Line problem was fixed. Also all the flak I was getting for saying Ricky wouldnt be able to stay off the weed.

here a year later, wheres Ricky, hows our O-Line? *sigh*

I never thought the offensive line was "fixed". They performed better towards the end of the year last season and they may do so again.

I've never seen you post here before but I have to say your posts seem to have an arrogant "Look, I'm Ms. Nostradamus!" quality to them. I'm not bashing you as a person, that's just how they come off.

Nick Saban inherited a sinking ship with about twenty holes in it. Which one to plug first? You can't plug them all at the same time. Well why didn't you plug this hole instead of that one??? The offensive line is better than the one fielded by Dave Wannstedt in 2004 and it will continue to improve. The problem is we didn't have 25 draft picks this year and $25 million in cap space to fill the o-line with Pro-Bowlers.

And what did we lose with Ricky coming back? He led the team in TDs and helped us win games last year. Is that a bad thing? And it was never made public what he tested positive for, so it might have been sterroids (which is dumb because he knows he's being watched like a hawk).

So here's to improvement during the season and welcome back!