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• Eagles general manager Howie Roseman, who orchestrated the Dolphins’ big trade with Philadelphia, said he initially went to Miami looking to move into the top 10 of the draft.

“It's not like we started off by offering [Byron Maxwell and Kiko Alonsoand the 13th pick for the 8th pick],” Roseman told me.
"[Dolphins executive Mike Tannenbaum] is a tough negotiator. He needed to get value for that.

“I think that narrative of [Maxwell] not playing well isn’t accurate. He did play well. You're talking about him being a solid starting corner. It's so hard to find guys with that kind of length. He's a starter on two Super Bowl teams. He’s a good player.
"Kiko Alonso, you talk about explosiveness. The first game of the season, he made an interception that few people on Earth can make. He's got unbelievable physical talent, unbelievable upside. Don’t forget: Kiko was Defensive Rookie of the Year [in 2013].

“This was a situation where we gave up a lot. We gave up two starters but that's the cost of doing business to get into the top 10.”
But also keep in mind that if the Eagles thought either player would be a star, they very likely wouldn't have given them up.
• One Dolphins official cautioned not to overlook Neville Hewitt in the team’s linebacker assessment; Miami is high on him. And there's also still eagerness to see more of Zach Vigil.

• Though the Dolphins plans to add a running back to share the load with Jay Ajayi, Adam Gase likes Damien Williams. The No. 3 job will be his to lose against Isaiah Pead, Daniel Thomas and others.
Superagent Drew Rosenhaus said on his WSVN-Fox segment tonight that he believes Ohio State running back Ezekiel Elliott (not a client of his) would be too good to pass up for Miami if available at No. 13 and said he's in the same class as Todd Gurley, who caught Miami's eye last year.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/spor...m-for-growth-whiteside-um-football-notes.html
 
I don't place much value in comments from people like Roseman. He's CERTAINLY not going to say he got such a great trade he's amazed 'baum was that stupid and he's not going to say Maxwell and/or KO are washed up and wouldn't have made the Philly team this fall. Either he's being honest or blowing smoke. For now, no one knows which.
I have some optimism about Hewitt and, to a lesser extent, Vigil. These two will be good indicators of how well VJ can develop talent.
 
Zeke Elliot will not be there.

People are right not to sleep on Hewitt. He did a nice job last year.
 
I think you're right on Elliott. There's a reason Miami is signing too many RBs. For now, my bet is CB at #13.
 
Zeke Elliot will not be there.

People are right not to sleep on Hewitt. He did a nice job last year.

He definitely should be in everybody's top 5 potential picks for the Dolphins . . .simply because if he is there . . . I don't imagine Miami passing him up . . . even if I am not a fan of RBs that high.
 
if they are high on neville Hewitt I cant see a high pick will backer...don't see it in the cards

think they look more depth than anything else at lb if they draft one or even the udfa route camp invite type

sounds like vigils in the plans at 2 deep...mike and strong
 
if they are high on neville Hewitt I cant see a high pick will backer...don't see it in the cards

think they look more depth than anything else at lb if they draft one or even the udfa route camp invite type

sounds like vigils in the plans at 2 deep...mike and strong

Awesome (in the most sarcastic tone possible)
 
Zeke Elliot will not be there.

People are right not to sleep on Hewitt. He did a nice job last year.


I have some hope for Hewitt, Vigil looked so slow and bad on pass plays maybe he did just ok on the run but not sure how you can fix looking so bad on passing downs with him.
 
Awesome (in the most sarcastic tone possible)

1st team: misi Alonso Jenkins
2nd team: vigil vigil Hewitt

I doubt that first team changes in the draft...more likely depth add on and competition for vigil if anything

nickel 1st team Alonso and Jenkins...if Alonso can't cut every down play athletically then it's Hewitt and Jenkins

I'd bet money this is how it shakes out

unlikely any top 2 day pick lb

this blows up on them if Alonso is not right/hurt....pretty much the extent of it
 
IIRC, Vigil graded higher than Sheppard though on limited snaps. I'm not good at studying film but Vigil looked more hesitant than slow. Don't know if that's because he was a rookie or he's just slow to diagnose.
 
1st team: misi Alonso Jenkins
2nd team: vigil vigil Hewitt

I doubt that first team changes in the draft...more likely depth add on and competition for vigil if anything

nickel 1st team Alonso and Jenkins...if Alonso can't cut every down play athletically then it's Hewitt and Jenkins

I'd bet money this is how it shakes out

unlikely any top 2 day pick lb

this blows up on them if Alonso is not right/hurt....pretty much the extent of it

My biggest worry...and in the end, think it does bite them...

Thing is, I like Jenkins and I like the potential of Hewitt, but the unit is very...below average.
 
IIRC, Vigil graded higher than Sheppard though on limited snaps. I'm not good at studying film but Vigil looked more hesitant than slow. Don't know if that's because he was a rookie or he's just slow to diagnose.


Well Sheppard is gone so thats good I guess, Im not really a tape guy either but I can tell you watching live at that Colts game Vigil looked like he was playing at a different speed than everyone else. Hewitt played better still a out a step to slow but you could tell the difference when he came in the game.
 
My biggest worry...and in the end, think it does bite them...

Thing is, I like Jenkins and I like the potential of Hewitt, but the unit is very...below average.

the way I look at it once you made the trade for Alonso this is the way it has to go...and once you guaranteed misi salary you gave him the starting gig at strong...only change would be if Jenkins was beaten out by Hewitt but I see that more as possibility in 2017 then out the gate this year...I could definitely see them if Hewitt shows enough though letting Jenkins go as a free agent

just doesn't seem like the time is right to part with lbs when your core is unless Alonso is right destined to be below average

once you made that Alonso trade you put all your chips on the table

maybe they add a 2 deep mike type depending on board value but I would expect it on day 3 or udfa
 
I'm predicting Hewitt to beat out Jenkins for WLB.

In his limited time last year showed more playmaking ability than Jenkins has in 2 years.
 
the way I look at it once you made the trade for Alonso this is the way it has to go...and once you guaranteed misi salary you gave him the starting gig at strong...only change would be if Jenkins was beaten out by Hewitt but I see that more as possibility in 2017 then out the gate this year...I could definitely see them if Hewitt shows enough though letting Jenkins go as a free agent

just doesn't seem like the time is right to part with lbs when your core is unless Alonso is right destined to be below average

once you made that Alonso trade you put all your chips on the table

Granted this draft doesn't offer much as far as legit 3 down mikes and if the team is that high on Hewitt...I think that take Darron Lee out of the equation as a pick at 13 (not sure how viable that was though).

I'm ok with Misi at strong, not flashy, but consistent...Alonzo...is he return to rookie form, we may be ok, but that is a big if.
 
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