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"He's a players coach," said receiver River Cracraft, who played for the San Francisco 49ers last season, where McDaniel was the offensive coordinator. "He gets along with players and he acts like he's one of us in the sense that you can talk to him. He's never going to big-time you or push you aside. ... That's what he's doing with everybody here and that's why I love playing for Mike, because you know what you're going to get from him, just his honesty."

 
I hope it translates well on the field. We've seen these kind of coaches enjoy some success, but often they dont. Shula, Parcells, Belicheat were all no nonsense guys that werent well liked by their players. Time will tell...
 
I hope it translates well on the field. We've seen these kind of coaches enjoy some success, but often they dont. Shula, Parcells, Belicheat were all no nonsense guys that werent well liked by their players. Time will tell...

To be honest, you have greats, and terrible HC for both the liked and disliked.

Liked (More relaxed HC):

Dick Vermeil...Joe Gibbs...Bill Walsh...Andy Reid...

If you can coach, it does not matter what your style is, cream always rises to the top.
 
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Mike McDaniel is a different kind of coach. It will be interesting to see the results. Old school coaches often had a disciplinarian view and believed practice make perfect.

Contrast McDaniel's style to Don Shula, who hated penalties and made the players re-run plays again in the heat during practice when they made mistakes.


Just how does Shula get these performances, year in and year out? How does he get youngsters to play error-free football? Is there a Don Shula secret in striving for perfection?

''It's the way I grew up,'' he says. ''I've always been neat and clean.'' He isn't kidding. You make a mistake on the Dolphins and you won't repeat it.

It is hot here even now, the temperature in the mid-80's, the humidity passing 70 percent. Shula's 1940's boy-next-door haircut is unwilted. The press on his open-necked pullover is permanent.

It is hotter in the summer, unbearable under the two-a-day's. ''It isn't unusual for him to put the club through a walk-through at 7:30 at night in the summer if he didn't like the way the two-a-day's went,'' says one member of the front office.

Always, he is neat and clean. If you do something sloppy in practice, you - and everyone else - knows it. Sloppiness, for example, is committing a holding penalty - even in practice.

''We don't think it's a joke,'' says Shula. ''We stop practice.'' Shula claims he does not want his players committing penalties even in a loosely officiated game, when it is apparent that players can get away with things.

''There are times teams gamble because there are no calls,'' he concedes. But he adds, ''You make a decision on what football should be.''

For Shula, it means a purity of line. Some surfers roam the world looking for a perfect wave. For Shula, it is a perfect 60 minutes. ''When I played, I couldn't stand for teammates to make mistakes,'' he recalls. ''I'd get after them if they made errors. They called me Captain Redneck. I believe that as long as you're doing something, you do it right.''


University of Kansas' Sports Management School put out this article on different coaching styles (they identify 3 - guess where our coach may fit, but it's likely more complicated than that since there may be a mix of styles):


Autocratic Coaching: Autocratic coaching can best be summed up by the phrase “My way or the highway.” Autocratic coaches make decisions with little to no input from the player or players. The coach articulates a vision for what needs to be accomplished by the players, and the players are expected to perform. Autocratic coaching is win-focused and typically features inflexible training structures.
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Democratic Coaching: Democratic coaching is exactly what it sounds like. Coaches facilitate decision making and goal setting with input from their athletes instead of dictating to them. This style of coaching is athlete-centered, and the athletes shape their own objectives under a framework outlined by the coach. Democratic coaches give a lot of autonomy to players and teams, who are active collaborators in their own development and direction.
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Holistic Coaching: Also known as “laissez-faire” coaching, this style of coaching is founded on the theory that a happy team naturally becomes a successful team. Very little is offered in terms of structured training or positive feedback. Instead, the holistic coach works to create an environment where players feel comfortable exploring and pursuing skills development on their own time and in their own way. The coach does not act as a central authority, and instead allows the team to set their own agenda.

And then there are some new approaches where you learn to adapt to your players needs and use different styles to reach them. This is Bo Hanson's (Australian 3x Olympic medalist and now sports consultant) approach to athletic coaching. I bring this up because I think McDaniel might actually fit better in these categories.


All sport coaches have a preferred way they like to coach – their “coaching style”, it is essentially the way they naturally behave when they are coaching. When we refer to natural behavior we are referring to the behavior likely to emerge when a coach is not consciously thinking about their approach, but is instead, just doing what they have always done. It is similar to an athlete being on autopilot. Just doing, not thinking.

Sometimes this coaching style works well with one athlete and poorly with another or works very well in certain situations but not others.

There is no ‘best’ coaching style. However, some styles are more appropriate than others for certain situations and depend on the athlete you are using it with.

Using the D Style (Dominant): If you have limited time and need to only give vital information then a Dominant Style (direct and task focused) approach is likely to deliver better outcomes.

Using the I Style (Influence): You also may need to use an Influence Style if the situation you are in sees you needing to find some unique way to re-engage (inspire or provide motives) your athletes during a tough practice.

Using the S Style (Steady): If you have a lot of time and can have a one on one conversation, a Steady (indirect and relationship focused) Style may be useful.

Using the C Style (Conscientious): A Conscientious Style is useful when the situation requires a detailed set up of a drill or practice session, prior to the athletes arriving. In addition, the Conscientious Style also works well when you want your athletes to work a challenge out for themselves. In this C Style, you try not to be Dominant (directive and giving guidance and instructions), rather let the challenges emerge within the environment you created and watch with only occasional input how your athletes solve their own problems. This is a common approach with more experienced athletes or any athletes who have a higher skill or knowledge level on the activity they are performing.
 
IMO old style autocratic style coaching wouldn't work in today's NFL. An autocratic style only works when there's a power imbalance. Saban is a brilliant coach and very successful in college where he has all the power. But in the NFL, where players often make more than the coach, he can't just say "b/c I said so"! I don't expect that coaches like Shula and Parcells will succeed as often in today's game. Even BB, seems a bit more vulnerable without a HOF QB. His success after Brady may end up closer to what it was in Cleveland, basically a brilliant defensive coach who ended up getting fired.
 
To be honest, you have greats, and terrible HC for both the liked and disliked.

Liked (More relaxed HC):

Dick Vermeil...Joe Gibbs...Bill Walsh...Andy Reid...

If you can coach, it does not matter what your style is, cream always rises to the top.


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IMO old style autocratic style coaching wouldn't work in today's NFL. An autocratic style only works when there's a power imbalance. Saban is a brilliant coach and very successful in college where he has all the power. But in the NFL, where players often make more than the coach, he can't just say "b/c I said so"! I don't expect that coaches like Shula and Parcells will succeed as often in today's game. Even BB, seems a bit more vulnerable without a HOF QB. His success after Brady may end up closer to what it was in Cleveland, basically a brilliant defensive coach who ended up getting fired.

Agree. Its part of why Nick left Miami IMO.... he is more "comfortable" w/ dirt poor 18 yo's than 25 yo Millionaires.
 
I hope it translates well on the field. We've seen these kind of coaches enjoy some success, but often they dont. Shula, Parcells, Belicheat were all no nonsense guys that werent well liked by their players. Time will tell...

Those guys wouldn’t last a season and a half with their styles in today’s game, if they didn’t have an elite QB to give the time to implement their infrastructure.
 
"He's a players coach," said receiver River Cracraft, who played for the San Francisco 49ers last season, where McDaniel was the offensive coordinator. "He gets along with players and he acts like he's one of us in the sense that you can talk to him. He's never going to big-time you or push you aside. ... That's what he's doing with everybody here and that's why I love playing for Mike, because you know what you're going to get from him, just his honesty."

Don't care about feel-good vibes....I care about winning and actually playing some real football for a change.
 
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