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Dolphins DB Need- A Closer Look

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Many Phans do not see a need at DB believing we have two top CB's and that is simply not true. A press cover is the #1 position to make our D scheme work and we need one and have for a couple of years. Noah's position was not a bad pick but it has not worked. Consider:

X has proven greatness but not consistent, is now 29 and is a $24M cap hit next year and we have an out in 24 for $11M. He was great half of last year and all of 2020 but out most of 2019.

Jones has not worked out and is 30. Not bad but not worth the money at $18M a year. We have an out in 2023 for $14M.

Needham has worked well, is 26 and worth the $4M this year. His is a FA next year.

Unless Noah is resurrected, that's all we got. We do need help,
 
I would not be surprised if one of Miami's two first rounders next year are spent on a corner. That position is so important and Howard/Jones are getting up there.
 
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There is no doubt we will be getting a 2nd tier Corner (Miami will not be over paying, but also unlike last few years, not bringing in mediocre talent), and will draft a corner with one of the early picks.

Unless X agrees to redo his contract to be more team friendly (Pretty doubtful), and/or Jones returns to being the shutdown Corner he was in Dallas, one or both will be gone soon, so Miami is aware they need to handle it.
 
So Be said:
Many Phans do not see a need at DB believing we have two top CB's and that is simply not true. A press cover is the #1 position to make our D scheme work and we need one and have for a couple of years. Noah's position was not a bad pick but it has not worked. Consider:

X has proven greatness but not consistent, is now 29 and is a $24M cap hit next year and we have an out in 24 for $11M. He was great half of last year and all of 2020 but out most of 2019.

Jones has not worked out and is 30. Not bad but not worth the money at $18M a year. We have an out in 2023 for $14M.

Needham has worked well, is 26 and worth the $4M this year. His is a FA next year.

Unless Noah is resurrected, that's all we got. We do need help,
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Excellent points
 
For the record, I don't think Noah Igbinoghene needs to be resurrected. He's 22 and he will still be 22 for more than half of this season. He was also a former WR learning to play CB.

I still have more hope for him than his "narrative". We'll see, him and Austin Jackson have the room to make a big jump. Austin Jackson turns 23 August 11th.

That said, right now I am really high on the idea of drafting Eli Ricks next year, if we get a shot at him with SF's pick.

I thought Byron Jones was a candidate to get released after this season, but the potential "out" is a $14M cap hit instead of an $18M cap hit. That's not enough savings for me to release him.
 
I don't think you're wrong I just think it honestly reflects the nature of the position. You need depth at corner, year after year, plain and simple. It is the one position where you can virtually guarantee that injuries will occur. Guys get older, lose a step, and bam they go from great to replacement level overnight. Elite corners in their 30s are the exception. Fortunately, we do have a boatload of picks next year so finding a guy won't be impossible.
 
TFK said:
I'd take our CB's over all but a handful of teams in the league. I can't say I agree with this post.
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Yes, our starting two are as good as any, but there's little depth behind them. This where a miss like Iggy hurts. We all know the Dolphins D starts with it's CBs. They could use some depth in training camp and it absolutely has to be addressed in the offseason.
 
Byron Jones’ presence on the field is the reason why QBs were still throwing to Howard while he racked up double digit INT’s. Howard’s increase in production in the past 2 seasons is a reason why Jones is worth the money. Without him, Howard isn’t getting close to the ball, because Igbinoghene is getting roasted on the other side.
 
I also think there's some potential depth on the roster already with guys like Trill Williams and Elijah Hamilton. We don't know what we have in them yet, but I think there's talent there.
 
circumstances said:
Depth would be great, but having a top 2 or 3 guy and a top 10 or 12 guy is a luxury practically zero other teams have.

X is Elite and Byron is very good (and well worth the money). "Not worked out," lol.
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To each their own view. X has been elite but in only half the game the past 3 years and is gonna hit 30.
I am a Huge Phinatic and been to over 100 games. This is the very first time I have heard any Phan call Jones VG and laugh at "not worked our."
 
So Be said:
To each their own view. X has been elite but in only half the game the past 3 years and is gonna hit 30.
I am a Huge Phinatic and been to over 100 games. This is the very first time I have heard any Phan call Jones VG and laugh at "not worked our."
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see @traptses post above.

i think that is the prevailing view of how good and important byron jones is for us (not counting the casual no-nothing fans).
 
The Ghost said:
For the record, I don't think Noah Igbinoghene needs to be resurrected. He's 22 and he will still be 22 for more than half of this season. He was also a former WR learning to play CB.

I still have more hope for him than his "narrative". We'll see, him and Austin Jackson have the room to make a big jump. Austin Jackson turns 23 August 11th.

That said, right now I am really high on the idea of drafting Eli Ricks next year, if we get a shot at him with SF's pick.

I thought Byron Jones was a candidate to get released after this season, but the potential "out" is a $14M cap hit instead of an $18M cap hit. That's not enough savings for me to release him.
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I completely agree. We were told when he and Jackson were drafted that they were gonna take time. It was a fair choice on a team starting from nowhere. Guess many did not get the message. Many look for anything possible to defend Tua but thow these two kids under the bus. That is not the Phinatic way.
 
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