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EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- If New York Giants general manager Dave Gettleman needed a reminder of his past indiscretions, Friday's action around the NFL should have done the trick.

Let's begin with this disclaimer (one that I've repeated countless times over the past three years): This has almost nothing to do with running back Saquon Barkley, a fabulous performer who plays a grueling position that has already taken its toll on his pro career. He just so happens to be the face behind a string of mistakes that have led us to this point, where the Giants have 15 wins and zero winning seasons over the past three years.
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It's relevant right now because the Miami Dolphins showed everyone Friday what a top-five pick can be worth in what is perceived as a strong NFL draft for quarterbacks. The Dolphins traded the No. 3 overall pick to the San Francisco 49ers for the No. 12 selection this year, a first- and third-round pick in 2022 and a first-round pick in 2023. That's quite the haul, one that gives Miami flexibility to make all kinds of corresponding moves. For instance, this one: The Dolphins then traded back up to No. 6 overall using some of the assets they had just obtained.

Now the Dolphins can get their playmaker (or whichever non-quarterback they are targeting) this year after having collected more valuable draft resources. Good chance they get their target playmaker considering it would be an upset if three of the first five picks are not quarterbacks.
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Dolphins' deals make Giants look silly for standing pat in 2018 NFL draft

Miami's haul from trading the No. 3 overall pick in 2021 is the type of move the Giants should have tried with the No. 2 pick three years ago.
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TrinidadDolfan said:
Fins deal makes all other teams look lazy.

Houston Texans should have a ritualistic burning of the phone that connects them to the Fins front office. They should never, ever take a call from us
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Bill O'Brien needs a statue at Hard Rock Stadium. Somewhere in the basement maybe.
 
1 dol fan said:
The part of the move that I like the best is the confidence that the Phins will earn a late first round pick next year and it’s better to hold the 49ers first in 22 than our pick in 22
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I don’t know about that. I believe that with the 49ers getting back all their injured players next season, they will be a playoff team. The Dolphins are still behind the Bills talent wise and it will be harder for them to make the playoffs next year.

It won’t surprise me if the Dolphins pick next year ends up being a higher pick in the draft than the 49er’s. Many people seem to be forgetting that the 49er’s were a SB team just two years ago and it was
injuries to many of their best players last year which led to them having the season they did.
 
1972forever said:
I don’t know about that. I believe that with the 49ers getting back all their injured players next season, they will be a playoff team. The Dolphins are still behind the Bills talent wise and it will be harder for them to make the playoffs next year.

It won’t surprise me if the Dolphins pick next year ends up being a higher pick in the draft than the 49er’s. Many people seem to be forgetting that the 49er’s were a SB team just two years ago and it was
injuries to many of their best players last year which led to them having the season they did.
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It depends on their QB situation too. We can't assume they will be better than us.
 
andyahs said:
It depends on their QB situation too. We can't assume they will be better than us.
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Yeah, but by that same token, it’s much safer to assume they will be better than we will be. Obviously as Fin fans we want that to be wrong... but it doesn’t change reality.
 
This is something I've always really admired about Grier. He sees tiers of value, then moves around the draft board to position himself either A) towards the end of that tier where there is the most value per pick, or B) where the last couple of prospects are at a position of need. That way he's maximizing value and choosing the BPA while also filling needs. Because he generally gets value for his moves, he's almost always gaining value from aligning BPA with Need.

On top of that, he's shrewd enough to spot value and aggressive enough to go for it. When a star falls, like Laremy Tunsil, he grabs him. When someone offers an offer too good to refuse for a guy you want to keep, like the Texans for Tunsil trade ... he makes the deal. When a low risk and high reward gamble comes along, like Isaiah Wilson, he takes it. When a clear improvement goal is obvious (like trading down to #6 and picking up extra picks), he moves mountains to make it happen. I'm quite certain he has had a strong plan and offer for Deshaun Watson, and I'm sure that this plan has been revised significantly as new details emerged, but he is and has been constantly weighing up the situation and revising his potential offer in case Watson becomes available and Ross becomes OK with adding the person.

Now Grier's selections are still very much up for debate. He hit on Minkah Fitzpatrick but he was misused in Miami and instantly became an All-Pro when he left and was played at his proper position like he was asking to play all along. But other than Xavien Howard and Minkah, none of Grier's selections have made All-Pro. He doesn't have many Pro-Bowlers either. For all of the treasure trove of draft picks he's accumulated and made ... this is not an area where Grier stands out.

But, his ability to move around the draft board and retain value while maximizing spots where Value, BPA, and Need all align. That's absolutely brilliant.
 
1972forever said:
I don’t know about that. I believe that with the 49ers getting back all their injured players next season, they will be a playoff team. The Dolphins are still behind the Bills talent wise and it will be harder for them to make the playoffs next year.

It won’t surprise me if the Dolphins pick next year ends up being a higher pick in the draft than the 49er’s. Many people seem to be forgetting that the 49er’s were a SB team just two years ago and it was
injuries to many of their best players last year which led to them having the season they did.
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I think it says alot about what Flores and Grier think about Tua and their team though. They just told everyone they expect to finish higher than the 49ers next year, a team that was in the superbowl last year and getting all their injured guys back. That is a huge vote of confidence in your own guys and I love it.
 
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